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Post by eebud on Aug 12, 2014 3:15:37 GMT
I didn't realize this was a "thing". I have a friend who is a Mason and a Shriner. He did it along with a call out to other friends of his that are also Masons and Shriners. His challenge was dump the water on your head or donate $100 to the Shriner's Hospital for Children. He had the water dumped on him and also made the donation. I laughed and moved on. I didn't really think anything of it other than it was nice to get donations for the Shriner's Hospital. Also, I don't think anyone will ever know who did or did not donate, dump water, or whatever. So, based on the only experience I have with this, I don't mind it. If I was on the list tagged and I wanted to donate, I would. If I didn't want to donate, I wouldn't.
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Post by peasapie on Aug 12, 2014 3:28:53 GMT
Today I had a conversation with a young lady (23) who had never heard SPF ALS or Lou Gehrig. That surprised me. She was talking about the ice bit. So - while I think it's an odd way to do it - this is raising awareness in its own way. I've known three people who died of this disease, so hoping they find a cure.
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Post by PEArfect on Aug 12, 2014 4:10:56 GMT
I think maybe you are confusing the 'cold water challenge' with the ALS ice bucket fundraiser. The cold water challenge is a call out. If you take on the challenge you give $10 to the cause of your choice. $100 to the challenger's cause of choice if you don't. The ALS fundraiser, you send in a video. For every video you send in the Colts and Irsay family will donate $1 for ALS research. offerpop.com/hashtag/gallery/4827/My mom was officially diagnosed with ALS in 2010, but had symptoms 3 years prior. She passed away in 2013. Just the fact that you are even talking about the ALS bucket challenge brings awareness to ALS research. Someone reading this might not have heard about the ALS bucket challenge and now might consider donating. That's the purpose. If you don't want to donate or send in a video of course that's your choice. I think it's a fun way to get involved, and get your children involved. Just like ALS walks. Getting family teams together and walking for a cause.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 4:25:53 GMT
I think maybe you are confusing the 'cold water challenge' with the ALS ice bucket fundraiser. The cold water challenge is a call out. If you take on the challenge you give $10 to the cause of your choice. $100 to the challenger's cause of choice if you don't. The ALS fundraiser, you send in a video. For every video you send in the Colts and Irsay family will donate $1 for ALS research. offerpop.com/hashtag/gallery/4827/My mom was officially diagnosed with ALS in 2010, but had symptoms 3 years prior. She passed away in 2013. Just the fact that you are even talking about the ALS bucket challenge brings awareness to ALS research. Someone reading this might not have heard about the ALS bucket challenge and now might consider donating. That's the purpose. If you don't want to donate or send in a video of course that's your choice. I think it's a fun way to get involved, and get your children involved. Just like ALS walks. Getting family teams together and walking for a cause. No the ALS one is not at all what you are describing, at least not the one I am seeing on numerous Facebook pages and the news. It is a call out.
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Post by *KatyCupcake* on Aug 12, 2014 4:33:33 GMT
I think some of us are seeing different things on FB. I have seen at least a half dozen "Ice Bucket Challenges" the past two days. The person posts a video where they say, "so and so called me out to take the ice bucket challenge to raise money and awareness for ALS." They dump bucket of ice water over their head and then turn and call out 1-3 friends by name to be next for the challenge. Those whose names were called to take the challenge have 24 hours to post their ice water dumping video.
I think it's a lot of fun for a very good cause. If you're called out I just don't get why you'd get angry over it. Either you do it or you don't. Either you donate or you don't.
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Post by eastcoastpea on Aug 12, 2014 10:57:14 GMT
I don't think putting someone on the spot is cool.
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Post by SnowWhite on Aug 12, 2014 14:27:52 GMT
I think some of us are seeing different things on FB. I have seen at least a half dozen "Ice Bucket Challenges" the past two days. The person posts a video where they say, "so and so called me out to take the ice bucket challenge to raise money and awareness for ALS." They dump bucket of ice water over their head and then turn and call out 1-3 friends by name to be next for the challenge. Those whose names were called to take the challenge have 24 hours to post their ice water dumping video. I'm seeing this as well amongst my friends. I don't watch the videos and I've not donated. Altho, this came across my feed this morning and made me chuckle:
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Post by loco coco on Aug 12, 2014 14:31:43 GMT
i havent seen this on FB but it wouldnt bother me
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Post by melissa on Aug 12, 2014 16:31:58 GMT
I questioned it as well- at least to myself.
However, donations went up 1000% and as of this morning, the ALS organization has brought in an unexpected million dollars from this campaign that started with one crazy individual and snowballed into something much bigger than imagined. Granted, many are not donating at all, but many are. And it has increased awareness in a huge way. My dd is a teen and her newsfeed on FB is filled with kids doing this. I'd bet most of them had not heard of ALS before.
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Post by finsup on Aug 12, 2014 18:52:57 GMT
I questioned it as slacktivism as well at first. But one of my friends posted on Facebook yesterday that she lost her mom to ALS and that seeing all the videos on her newsfeed meant a lot to her. That makes it worth it to me even without all the benefit of the increased donations and awareness, which I think is great. I've also gotten a kick out of seeing the videos. Most are boring, but occasionally there's been comedy gold--my niece's boyfriend had the water poured on him by a friend, but she dropped the bucket and he got bonked on the head. I liked this article: bostonherald.com/sports/columnists/steve_buckley/2014/08/buckley_ice_bucket_challenge_a_boon_to_als_researchAll across this great land of ours, hundreds and thousands of people — maybe even millions — are participating in the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge. And all across this great land of ours, several people — maybe even dozens — are gettin’ all crotchety and out of sorts about the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge. To borrow a quote from Twitter: “I don’t see how dumping a bucket of ice water over your head can cure a disease.” In the unlikely event some of you have just returned from your summer vacation to Pluto and don’t understand what this is all about, the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge is a social media phenomenon in which people post videos of themselves dumping a bucket of ice water over their heads, after which they challenge three others to either do the same or donate $100 to an ALS organization. ALS is short for amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, commonly known as Lou Gehrig’s Disease. It’s a wrecking ball of a disease for which there is no cure — even now, exactly 75 years after Lou Gehrig delivered his “Luckiest Man” speech at Yankee Stadium. The ALS Ice Bucket Challenge can be traced to Yonkers, N.Y., and to a man named Patrick Quinn who suffers from the disease. Locally, the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge can be traced to Beverly native Pete Frates, the former Boston College baseball captain who was diagnosed with Lou Gehrig’s Disease two years ago. The disease is doing its work: Pete Frates is now confined to a wheelchair and his ability to speak has abandoned him. Yet he continues to be a rock star in the ALS community, raising money, raising awareness, raising hope. Would that we could all live our lives with the joie de vivre that this man does. Pete Frates is the reason this year’s Oldtime Baseball Game, on Aug. 25 at St. Peter’s Field in Cambridge, is being played as a fund-raiser for the ALS Therapy Development Institute and the Pete Frates [HASH]3 Fund. (Disclosure: I am one of the game’s organizers, and I am terribly sorry for this conflict of interest. Terribly, terribly sorry.) During a Facebook chat the other day, Frates explained to me why the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge is important. “(Boston College baseball coach) Mike Gambino brought up a great point at dinner last night: Has ALS ever been talked about this much?” he wrote. “ Even on July 4, 1939, there was not a way to get the word out like this.” July 4, 1939, of course, was the day Lou Gehrig leaned into a bank of microphones at Yankee Stadium and spoke one of the most memorable sentences in recorded history: “Today, I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of the earth.” While the event was headlined in newspapers across the country and given the star treatment in newsreels, there was no social media to take awareness of ALS to the grassroots level as has been the case with the Ice Bucket Challenge. “ALS was misunderstood at the time,” said Jonathan Eig, author of the critically acclaimed “Luckiest Man: The Life and Death of Lou Gehrig.” “Most people at the stadium that day didn’t know he had a fatal disease. A lot of people thought it was like polio, that he might be paralyzed but certainly wouldn’t die. “In those days, you didn’t know about the disease unless someone in your own family had it. There was no public recognition of it.” Pete Frates writes that “exposure like this is what the ALS community needs so we can even attempt to find a cure and reversal for people living with this insidious disease.” And for people who think the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge is long on show and short on making an actual difference, there is this: ALS organizations are getting a financial bump out of the movement. “We are seeing 10 times the number of online donations every day,” said Carol Hamilton, development director of the ALS Therapy Development Institute, based in Kendall Square. “We are seeing an incredible number of people who didn’t know much about ALS last week and who do today.” Granted, the donations are small. But small donations are personal donations, and that’s the beauty of all this. Yet beyond all that — the awareness, the money — what we’re missing here is that the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge is the social media equivalent of an old-fashioned church bake sale. It’s community. It’s fun. It’s people letting their hair down a little and getting caught up in the spirit of the now, like the local sheriff who agrees to sit in the dunk tank. I know that Pete Frates is having a blast with all this. He and his wife Julie went to a wedding Friday night and guess what happened? The band, Bearfight, which played Pete and Julie’s wedding, did the Ice Bucket Challenge. As did the wedding party, including the bride and groom. So I ask you: If this ALS Ice Bucket Challenge is bringing this level of pure joy to Pete Frates — and, presumably, to so many others battling ALS — why would anyone have a problem with that?
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Post by azredhead on Aug 12, 2014 19:08:58 GMT
because according to Yubon it's not good to have multiple threads about certain things. I saw this on the news one night and wasn't sure what it was for. I only caught the last part of it where they were dumping the ice water on the reporters head and he talked a little more about the cause. Is this something new? The ice water I mean. I guess if it's a community thing and to help other people then it can't be a bad thing as long as the people who are getting 'dumped on' are okay with it. I don't see what this is an issue?
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Post by alibama on Aug 12, 2014 19:12:29 GMT
Wow really? I am surprised.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 19:37:30 GMT
Once again I have NO problem with people doing this. The thing I have an issue with is that they call others out basically forcing them to do it or they look like an ass. I think that part is wrong. We aren't cool with call outs here so why is this any different?
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Post by sarahyoo72 on Aug 12, 2014 19:37:50 GMT
My DH was called out to do an ice bucket challenge earlier in the summer, but ALS was not mentioned, just a donation to a charity of the person who called him out, and he then chose a charity when he then called others out. My Dad was diagnosed with ALS the end of June, so my DH chose the Motor Neuron Disease UK charity (as this is what ALS is called in the UK)
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Post by LAM88 on Aug 12, 2014 19:49:36 GMT
The posts have been coming up for me that you only donate if you don't dump the water. Every one I have seen they are supposed to give either way. Again that is why I hate this kind of stuff. I donate to who I want to donate, not when someone calls me out. The way I originally saw the challenge on the Today show was either donate or dump the water. Matt Lauer made a point of saying he was going to do both. ETA - After Matt Lauer did it he went on the Howard Stern show and called him out on the radio. Howard was annoyed and said there was no way he was dumping ice water on himself and that he already makes many charitable donations, so he resented being called out in such public way.
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Post by finsup on Aug 12, 2014 20:03:40 GMT
Once again I have NO problem with people doing this. The thing I have an issue with is that they call others out basically forcing them to do it or they look like an ass. I think that part is wrong. We aren't cool with call outs here so why is this any different? I personally wouldn't think of someone as an ass if they didn't do it, and if someone tried to make a friend feel like an ass for not doing it, then I'd think they're the ass. :-)
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Post by *KatyCupcake* on Aug 13, 2014 3:39:54 GMT
The call out isn't to call someone out on their behavior. It's extending the challenge to a friend or family member. I see it very different from mean spirited call outs on a message board in order to have others pile on someone.
My neighbor did the challenge, still made a donation, and called out another neighbor and his brother in law to take the challenge. He wasn't being an ass to those guys- just extending a fun challenge to two guys he respects.
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Post by brina on Aug 13, 2014 12:41:09 GMT
Every one I have seen they are supposed to give either way. Again that is why I hate this kind of stuff. I donate to who I want to donate, not when someone calls me out. The way I originally saw the challenge on the Today show was either donate or dump the water. Matt Lauer made a point of saying he was going to do both. ETA - After Matt Lauer did it he went on the Howard Stern show and called him out on the radio. Howard was annoyed and said there was no way he was dumping ice water on himself and that he already makes many charitable donations, so he resented being called out in such public way. Considering the shit that Howard Stern has to say about other people (how many women has he called fat, ugly or ho in his career?) I find it ironic that he resents being called out by Matt Lauer to either do something silly or donate what to Howard Stern is an extremely insignificant amount of money. Most of the people I see online will call out a list of 3-10 people in their Facebook posting. I don't know of anybody who is tracking those people down to confirm whether they have complied or not. Also, most people I know are going the Matt Lauer route of dumping and donating. BTW, the main ALS charity in the US has stated donations are now up to 2.1 million
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Post by Basket1lady on Aug 13, 2014 12:54:29 GMT
I questioned it as well- at least to myself. However, donations went up 1000% and as of this morning, the ALS organization has brought in an unexpected million dollars from this campaign that started with one crazy individual and snowballed into something much bigger than imagined. Granted, many are not donating at all, but many are. And it has increased awareness in a huge way. My dd is a teen and her newsfeed on FB is filled with kids doing this. I'd bet most of them had not heard of ALS before. I really wondered about this myself, but when I heard how much was being raised, I see it as a good thing. It's summer, it's hot, and people generally have more free time. If they want to get together with friends and dump water on their heads, go for it. They have raised close to $2 million from this time last year. It seems to be working.
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Post by grinningcat on Aug 13, 2014 12:57:28 GMT
I think it's slacktivism at its finest. Unless it's an organized event by the ALS charities, there is no way to prove that an actual donation was made. And quite frankly, getting called out to donate and basically held hostage to do? Not cool. If I want to donate to ALS I will, I don't need some foolish gimmick to force me into it.
Polar bear dip to raise money, organised by the charity? Makes total sense. Random people dropping buckets full of ice water on people's head? Makes no sense at all.
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Post by SnowWhite on Aug 13, 2014 13:02:17 GMT
Considering the shit that Howard Stern has to say about other people (how many women has he called fat, ugly or ho in his career?) I find it ironic that he resents being called out by Matt Lauer to either do something silly or donate what to Howard Stern is an extremely insignificant amount of money. Who are you to judge what Howard Stern does with his money? It's his money after all, not yours. If he doesn't want to donate, he shouldn't have to and no one should peer-pressure anyone when it comes to charitable donations. Maybe this is the exact problem with the whole ice water challenge. Charitable donations are a fairly private thing to most people and should remain as such. Public call outs aren't necessary.
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Post by grinningcat on Aug 13, 2014 13:05:43 GMT
Considering the shit that Howard Stern has to say about other people (how many women has he called fat, ugly or ho in his career?) I find it ironic that he resents being called out by Matt Lauer to either do something silly or donate what to Howard Stern is an extremely insignificant amount of money. Who are you to judge what Howard Stern does with his money? It's his money after all, not yours. If he doesn't want to donate, he shouldn't have to and no one should peer-pressure anyone when it comes to charitable donations. Maybe this is the exact problem with the whole ice water challenge. Charitable donations are a fairly private thing to most people and should remain as such. Public call outs aren't necessary. You know what? I agree with you that it is none of our business what Stern does with his money. However, I think he sows the seeds of the treatment he gets and deserves callouts like this. He's such lowlife scum that more people should be calling him on his bullshit. But at least the lowlife scum claims to be charitable. Though I can't imagine he cares about anything else than the sound of his own voice.
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Post by SnowWhite on Aug 13, 2014 13:12:15 GMT
Who are you to judge what Howard Stern does with his money? It's his money after all, not yours. If he doesn't want to donate, he shouldn't have to and no one should peer-pressure anyone when it comes to charitable donations. Maybe this is the exact problem with the whole ice water challenge. Charitable donations are a fairly private thing to most people and should remain as such. Public call outs aren't necessary. You know what? I agree with you that it is none of our business what Stern does with his money. However, I think he sows the seeds of the treatment he gets and deserves callouts like this. He's such lowlife scum that more people should be calling him on his bullshit. But at least the lowlife scum claims to be charitable. Though I can't imagine he cares about anything else than the sound of his own voice. If it wouldn't be alright for someone to do it to Matt Lauer, it shouldn't be okay to do it to Howard Stern. The who shouldn't change whether it's a shitty thing to do.
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Post by grinningcat on Aug 13, 2014 13:15:34 GMT
You know what? I agree with you that it is none of our business what Stern does with his money. However, I think he sows the seeds of the treatment he gets and deserves callouts like this. He's such lowlife scum that more people should be calling him on his bullshit. But at least the lowlife scum claims to be charitable. Though I can't imagine he cares about anything else than the sound of his own voice. If it wouldn't be alright for someone to do it to Matt Lauer, it shouldn't be okay to do it to Howard Stern. The who shouldn't change whether it's a shitty thing to do. Normally I would agree with you. However, with Howard Stern, all bets are off.
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Post by moveablefeast on Aug 13, 2014 13:23:39 GMT
Nay for us.
I donate each year in honor of a friend who died from it many years ago.
I don't want to dump a bucket of ice water on my head.
I would rather tell people about my friend who died from it and how painful it was, than call them out on Facebook to do something utterly unrelated.
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Post by librarylady on Aug 13, 2014 13:55:16 GMT
Lucky me, I am not of FB and am clueless on all of this. I will say, if a supposed friend tried to shame me into donating for ANY cause, that would be the end of a friendship. The bucket of ice water, as seen in news blips lately, seems awfully foolish......especially when many areas are in a severe shortage of water and it is being wasted in this manner.
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Post by k8scraps on Aug 13, 2014 14:40:03 GMT
I don't like that my DD was 'called out' on FB yesterday........and she doesn't have 2 pennies to rub together......if she makes a donation......I'll be really unhappy...
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Post by katieanna on Aug 13, 2014 15:05:50 GMT
The posts have been coming up for me that you only donate if you don't dump the water. Every one I have seen they are supposed to give either way. Again that is why I hate this kind of stuff. I donate to who I want to donate, not when someone calls me out. I agree. Those who choose not to give shouldn't be made a spectacle of... What about the people who simply can't afford to give $100? This seems a bit bizarre to me.
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Post by brina on Aug 13, 2014 15:30:27 GMT
Considering the shit that Howard Stern has to say about other people (how many women has he called fat, ugly or ho in his career?) I find it ironic that he resents being called out by Matt Lauer to either do something silly or donate what to Howard Stern is an extremely insignificant amount of money. Who are you to judge what Howard Stern does with his money? It's his money after all, not yours. If he doesn't want to donate, he shouldn't have to and no one should peer-pressure anyone when it comes to charitable donations. Maybe this is the exact problem with the whole ice water challenge. Charitable donations are a fairly private thing to most people and should remain as such. Public call outs aren't necessary. I don't question where or how he donates his money simply find it ironic that he is resentful that Lauer asked him. Apparently calling some teenage cheerleader a skank is okay in his world, but being asked by a guest to do something silly or donate a small amount of money is cause for upset. I find his thought process weird.
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Post by momofkandn on Aug 13, 2014 15:54:59 GMT
The challenge is pretty viral among my FB friends so I've seen lots of call outs. But I haven't seen one person actually shamed if they don't respond or participate. The person that called me out hasn't said anything to me about it. If there are people out there that are calling people out for not participating then shame in them. But I haven't seen that. Just the original tags in FB posts. No follow up after the fact.
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