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Post by ajsweetpea on Aug 13, 2014 1:32:12 GMT
Things I have read today have made me feel the same way. I wish people would realize in this type of situations, compassion is always the appropriate response. Insensitivity, not so much.
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Post by padresfan619 on Aug 13, 2014 2:17:50 GMT
I would sit on my hands because I don't think FB is the appropriate place to try and educate someone on the trials and tribulations of mental illness. We see it over and over again on here (or back at the original MB) tone and intentions of comments are taken WAY out of context. And confronting someone online will automatically put them in the defensive.
I would rather send a private message and ask to meet up in person to be able to talk things out without the muddy waters of the internet.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Aug 13, 2014 6:07:32 GMT
Why sit on your hands? I wouldn't. People need to speak up. That's an important way to affect change. You may not change that person's mind, but other readers will see it. Someone who may be struggling themselves. Silence is sometimes just as damaging.
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Post by tonya on Aug 14, 2014 0:50:23 GMT
Here's why I don't sit on my hands. The suicide is selfish comment came up on a friend's page. I went a bit off on why it's not - and basically said either say something helpful or shut up. That friend messaged me that she has recently been diagnosed as bi-polar and has been suicidal. She said it made a different that I stood up without even knowing that she was dealing with this.
So in my world, if I make the difference in one person's world by speaking up, it makes enough of a difference for me. I don't expect that I changed that other person's mind, nor do I even care. He means nothing to me. But she does and know she knows she has one additional life line should she ever need it.
Speak up it matters.
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Post by mikklynn on Aug 14, 2014 1:00:30 GMT
People really do not understand how tormenting mental illness can be. I once heard a talk given by a retired officer who responded to suicide threats.. his talk was very compassionate and understanding, excepting for he repeatedly referred to people who commit suicide as being very selfish. I hate that line of thinking. Because I think a lot of suicidal people think that they are being selfless by committing suicide -- because not only are they worthless, and their own life is worthless, but they are making the lives of the people they love miserable and awful just by being alive. Well said! Depression is a physical illness.
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Post by scrapnnana on Aug 14, 2014 2:15:13 GMT
Responding only to the OP. I doubt seriously that the teacher spent two months bonding with his class "knowing" he was going to commit suicide at the end of those two months.
I would not sit on my hands. I would respond by saying exactly to that clueless individual what I just posted here.
If the response ruffled the feathers of the person who said such an insensitive and judgmental thing in the first place, then tough.
When someone is being insensitive, ignorant, and/or judgmental, why should we feel we need to be silent just to avoid controversy, offending someone, whatever?
I have members of my extended family who struggle with depression. One in particular is an individual who has, from time to time, given us concern that he might resort to suicide. Does he expect to commit suicide on a day to day basis? No. It is a once in awhile thing that can happen unexpectedly when his meds aren't always working well enough to offset the depression. We don't know why sometimes he does well on the meds, and sometimes not.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Aug 14, 2014 2:54:28 GMT
Wow. That is incredibly uncaring and insensitive.
Makes you wonder if that person really never thought past:
"He was so selfish that he bonded with his class of kids for a couple months before killing himself! Hmp! He should have just done it during the summer to save those kids the trouble of knowing another person!"
And never got to:
"God, that poor man. Can you imagine the kind of emotional devastation he must have been in to truly see not other answer? And his poor family. His poor children. They will never get another day with him."
I'm with you. I can't fathom how some people can't think of others.
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Post by Freefallfast on Aug 14, 2014 3:11:05 GMT
Depression is a very dark place. One should be very careful and err on the side of compassion. In some ways i envy people who are thoughtless and insensitive. Life seems easier for them.
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Post by gizzy on Aug 14, 2014 3:22:07 GMT
At first I was going to say ignore her stupidity, but after reading everyone's replies, I realize how important it is to speak up.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 14, 2014 3:23:41 GMT
We had a teacher commit suicide in April 1994. Se was a lovely, caring, a compassionate person who the kids absolutely adored. Most of the staff never knew she was suffering. She hid it so well from most of us. Those that she let in (very few) were greatly saddened, but perhaps they weren't as shocked as the rest of us. It happened in the middle of the week. She wrote out plans for two weeks, and then wrote NO KIDS across the next several pages. My heart still aches for her daughter. How tragic to be the one to find your mother. That event forever changed my mind about suicide. You can judge all you want, but unless you are the person who does it or tries to do it, you will truly never understand the pain they feel. Making those kinds of comments shows that do not understand. Perhaps it looks selfish to someone who hasn't ever experienced it, but respect the loved ones left behind and follow the golden rule.
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