katybee
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Post by katybee on Jan 19, 2017 1:44:35 GMT
So, back in 2009, when President Obama was inaugurated, my school district made teachers send home permission slips if they were going to show it. It was a whole thing. I teach Kindergarten, so I was never going to show it--but I was livid that this was the policy, as it had NEVER been required for other inaugurations. Yesterday, we get an email from the district with the heading "Inauguration Activities." So I thought they were going to require permission slips again. Nope. They wanted a heads up on any planned activities so they could feature them on the district webpage. FTR, I have no objection showing the inauguration--despite whether or not my candidate won (I remember having this discussion on Two Peas back in the day). I don't show it because I teach 5 year-olds, and they would be bored out of their minds. But I am once again LIVID. Why the double standard?  |
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Post by melanell on Jan 19, 2017 1:47:09 GMT
That's pretty damn crappy.  |
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Post by annabella on Jan 19, 2017 1:50:33 GMT
Did they do that for bush and Clinton? Or was Obama the first one they watched?
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Post by missfrenchjessica on Jan 19, 2017 1:50:50 GMT
That's pretty damn crappy.  Or, maybe they realized how ridiculous they were being in 2009 and decided no matter who the next president, there would be inauguration activities.... nah, they're just crappy. |
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Post by katybee on Jan 19, 2017 1:53:31 GMT
Did they do that for bush and Clinton? Or was Obama the first one they watched? They had never before required permission slips. Why would they? But Obama was a foreign born Muslim (cough...cough...black) who was going to fill kids' heads with liberal propaganda. Trump is is just a hard-working, honest every-man.... |
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Post by katybee on Jan 19, 2017 1:55:03 GMT
That's pretty damn crappy. Or, maybe they realized how ridiculous they were being in 2009 and decided no matter who the next president, there would be inauguration activities.... nah, they're just crappy. Yeah... I live in a VERY right-wing area. I wish that were the case, but, nah... |
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Post by Merge on Jan 19, 2017 2:01:40 GMT
I think I'd feel compelled to ask someone in the district office WHY permission slips had been required for Obama's inauguration but not Trump's.
But I'm a rabble-rouser like that.
I'm not aware of any plans to view the inauguration at my elementary school. Given the fear many kids experienced in the wake of the election, I think they'd be foolish to stir all that up again by showing it. We have a large immigrant population and even a few refugees.
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Post by monklady123 on Jan 19, 2017 2:30:24 GMT
That is a huge double standard.  Thankfully our schools are all closed on Friday so we won't have that choice to make. |
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Post by freecharlie on Jan 19, 2017 2:33:20 GMT
I won't be showing it as I don't teach Civics or Current Events. I will show CNN student news to one class on Monday (it is our routine) and I am sure they will cover it.
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Post by freecharlie on Jan 19, 2017 2:34:15 GMT
Oh and I remember all the people wanting permission slips for Obama's inauguration it was disgusting then, just as it is now.
Damn that black president leaving office with a 60% approval rating.
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Post by aggiebonfire00 on Jan 19, 2017 3:28:31 GMT
I received this email from my son's high school principal today:
Dear Parents/Guardians,
Some Social Studies classes at XXXXX High School may be viewing the Presidential Inauguration during Social Studies class on Friday, January 20, 2017. The teacher may use follow-up activities that align with the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills. Parents who do not want their child to either view or participate in lessons surrounding the Presidential Inauguration should send a written note to their child's Social Studies teacher by Friday, January 20th, indicating their desire for their child to be excluded from the activities. Students who do not participate in the lesson will be provided other learning opportunities during this time.
Please let me know if you have questions.
Sincerely,
XXXXX
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Post by AnotherPea on Jan 19, 2017 4:30:19 GMT
I think permission slips for any of it is stupid. It's public school. This is a public office. If you don't want your child learning about government practices, don't send him to a public school.
I won't be doing anything in class regarding the inauguration. It doesn't align with my courses' standards.
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Post by jayfab on Jan 19, 2017 4:48:45 GMT
Oh and I remember all the people wanting permission slips for Obama's inauguration it was disgusting then, just as it is now. Damn that black president leaving office with a 60% approval rating. Oh no it's about 9% according to the jokers on our local tv fb page. It's 60% who want him to get out of the White House. Also Trumps negative poll numbers are FAKE FAKE FAKE LIES LIES LIES and what do you expect when they only polled the libbys and Muslims. Trump is at 60% favorable according to them. I had to sit on my hands. SaveSave |
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Post by flute4peace on Jan 19, 2017 5:48:26 GMT
I don't have a problem with it, so long as it's a delayed feed in case something happens. Says the girl who watched the Challenger blow up live on tv with a classroom full of other traumatized kids.
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Post by shaniam on Jan 19, 2017 6:03:18 GMT
We got an email (high school) that the kids would be watching in social studies but they could opt out if they choose to.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Jan 19, 2017 12:59:23 GMT
A non issue here because DC area schools close when it is a new president. I personally think they SHOULD be in school, this is such a non-event in my book.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jan 19, 2017 13:28:53 GMT
We got an email (high school) that the kids would be watching in social studies but they could opt out if they choose to. Wow. That's. . . wow. The inauguration is relevant to the curriculum and they are high school students. As much as I dislike Trump, I couldn't imagine opting my kid out of that. |
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Post by Sarah*H on Jan 19, 2017 14:42:56 GMT
I've given up being surprised by the double standard and/or hypocrisy. In fact, I've come to expect it as further indication of character.
The broadcast of anything related to President Obama to students was immediately met with outraged outcries from members of my community. I kept my kids home to watch the inauguration in 2008 and they didn't have school in 2012. I don't have any information whether or not the district plans to broadcast this one; I suspect they will because our band is marching representing the entire state of Pennsylvania. I won't make any outraged outcry if they do - my kids are savvy enough to survive watching it and come to their own conclusions if they are compelled to watch.
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Post by MsKnit on Jan 19, 2017 14:50:38 GMT
We got an email (high school) that the kids would be watching in social studies but they could opt out if they choose to. Wow. That's. . . wow. The inauguration is relevant to the curriculum and they are high school students. As much as I dislike Trump, I couldn't imagine opting my kid out of that. Really? By high school age, kids have an opinion on presidential elections. My son and his friends were even interested in the presidential election in middle school. Personally, I would respect his desire not to be forced to watch the inauguration at school. I believe the students who do not want to watch should be allowed to opt out. For my kid, it would have been his own form of protest. I've never seen him react so strongly to anything as he did to find out the results of this election. As it stands, we will not be watching it at home. |
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Post by maryland on Jan 19, 2017 14:51:34 GMT
That is a huge double standard. Thankfully our schools are all closed on Friday so we won't have that choice to make. Are you in the DC area? I grew up in PG County, MD, so we were always closed for elections and Inaugurations. |
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Post by littlemama on Jan 19, 2017 14:52:25 GMT
Remember when Obama gave a speech in September one year that essentially told the kids how important an education was and to do well in school? Loads of schools (including ours) did not show that speech to the intended audience - children in school.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jan 19, 2017 15:03:30 GMT
I received this email from my son's high school principal today: Dear Parents/Guardians, Some Social Studies classes at XXXXX High School may be viewing the Presidential Inauguration during Social Studies class on Friday, January 20, 2017. The teacher may use follow-up activities that align with the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills. Parents who do not want their child to either view or participate in lessons surrounding the Presidential Inauguration should send a written note to their child's Social Studies teacher by Friday, January 20th, indicating their desire for their child to be excluded from the activities. Students who do not participate in the lesson will be provided other learning opportunities during this time. Please let me know if you have questions. Sincerely, XXXXX As a former High School Poli Sci teacher... I am a little taken aback by this. I had my students participate in all sorts of political activities as part of their home work. I can see not participating in the Inauguration, I totally get not wanting to watch it. But if it is part of a learning outcome it seems a bit precious snowflake to say I can't watch it. I get that for some students his whole presidency can be a trigger. I have trouble balancing that with we live in this country we are going to have to deal with him. Elementary school students, even middle school students might not have the capacity to watch the inauguration and not be traumatized. High school students should be able to handle an assignment around Trump's inauguration. My daughter is in 8th grade and does not support Trump in any way, I can not imagine her opting out of anything to do with his presidency in social studies or civics classes for the next four years. |
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Post by annie on Jan 19, 2017 15:06:51 GMT
Just as a different example: Here's a district from North Carolina requiring signed permission slips to watch Trump's inauguration: www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/01/351113/I think all of it is stupid. It's a historic event, like every inauguration. Permission slips based on which party is in office are just ridiculous. |
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Post by MsKnit on Jan 19, 2017 15:09:44 GMT
I received this email from my son's high school principal today: Dear Parents/Guardians, Some Social Studies classes at XXXXX High School may be viewing the Presidential Inauguration during Social Studies class on Friday, January 20, 2017. The teacher may use follow-up activities that align with the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills. Parents who do not want their child to either view or participate in lessons surrounding the Presidential Inauguration should send a written note to their child's Social Studies teacher by Friday, January 20th, indicating their desire for their child to be excluded from the activities. Students who do not participate in the lesson will be provided other learning opportunities during this time. Please let me know if you have questions. Sincerely, XXXXX As a former High School Poli Sci teacher... I am a little taken aback by this. I had my students participate in all sorts of political activities as part of their home work. I can see not participating in the Inauguration, I totally get not wanting to watch it. But if it is part of a learning outcome it seems a bit precious snowflake to say I can't watch it. I get that for some students his whole presidency can be a trigger. I have trouble balancing that with we live in this country we are going to have to deal with him. Elementary school students, even middle school students might not have the capacity to watch the inauguration and not be traumatized. High school students should be able to handle an assignment around Trump's inauguration. My daughter is in 8th grade and does not support Trump in any way, I can not imagine her opting out of anything to do with his presidency in social studies or civics classes for the next four years. Who said it was for the next four years? It's the televised inauguration. One event. I see it as an opportunity for the school to create an assignment for those opting out to consider why they are doing so. It has the potential to be a good learning experience. |
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jan 19, 2017 15:13:39 GMT
Wow. That's. . . wow. The inauguration is relevant to the curriculum and they are high school students. As much as I dislike Trump, I couldn't imagine opting my kid out of that. Really? By high school age, kids have an opinion on presidential elections. My son and his friends were even interested in the presidential election in middle school. Personally, I would respect his desire not to be forced to watch the inauguration at school. I believe the students who do not want to watch should be allowed to opt out. For my kid, it would have been his own form of protest. I've never seen him react so strongly to anything as he did to find out the results of this election. As it stands, we will not be watching it at home. To me watching it on TV seems so passive. I get that they are passionate about the election and their dislike of DT, my kid will be missing school because we are driving to Washington for the march, but if her class was going to watch it I would not allow her to opt out. Protest sure, but where does the opting out stop? |
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jan 19, 2017 15:15:59 GMT
As a former High School Poli Sci teacher... I am a little taken aback by this. I had my students participate in all sorts of political activities as part of their home work. I can see not participating in the Inauguration, I totally get not wanting to watch it. But if it is part of a learning outcome it seems a bit precious snowflake to say I can't watch it. I get that for some students his whole presidency can be a trigger. I have trouble balancing that with we live in this country we are going to have to deal with him. Elementary school students, even middle school students might not have the capacity to watch the inauguration and not be traumatized. High school students should be able to handle an assignment around Trump's inauguration. My daughter is in 8th grade and does not support Trump in any way, I can not imagine her opting out of anything to do with his presidency in social studies or civics classes for the next four years. Who said it was for the next four years? It's the televised inauguration. One event. I see it as an opportunity for the school to create an assignment for those opting out to consider why they are doing so. It has the potential to be a good learning experience. Where does it end? Opting out now for the Inauguration, later for the State of Union, then for his Impeachment?? |
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Post by pyccku on Jan 19, 2017 15:23:50 GMT
I don't have a problem with it, so long as it's a delayed feed in case something happens. Says the girl who watched the Challenger blow up live on tv with a classroom full of other traumatized kids. Our local news posted a story on FB about a teacher not being sure if they should show it. I commented that as a teacher, you should ALWAYS preview a video before showing it to a class - especially younger kids (the teacher taught 4th grade, so 9-yr olds). I got a lot of likes, but also one guy who said I was "dumbing down America". Another said this was "communist." And another said that the president was not going to send me a copy of his speech to pre-approve it. Someone did bring up the WTC and Challenger saying 'well, we watched those in school!' I thought it was common sense - ALWAYS preview a video before showing it to kids. Even if you think it's probably fine, still watch. Be 100% sure. Don't traumatize kids like the Challenger disaster did. That was horrible. |
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jan 19, 2017 15:26:41 GMT
Wow. That's. . . wow. The inauguration is relevant to the curriculum and they are high school students. As much as I dislike Trump, I couldn't imagine opting my kid out of that. Really? By high school age, kids have an opinion on presidential elections. My son and his friends were even interested in the presidential election in middle school. Personally, I would respect his desire not to be forced to watch the inauguration at school. I believe the students who do not want to watch should be allowed to opt out. For my kid, it would have been his own form of protest. I've never seen him react so strongly to anything as he did to find out the results of this election. As it stands, we will not be watching it at home. Really. We won't be watching here but, if they were watching in his social studies class, he would be sucking it up and finding some other form of protest. |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jan 19, 2017 16:07:51 GMT
So Sarah, are you keep your kids home from school tomorrow to watch the inauguration? Or, does that double standard you speak of actually flow in both directions?
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Post by Country Ham on Jan 19, 2017 16:15:57 GMT
Our schools showed Obamas (no permission slips) and they didn't show Clinton or Bushes. I have no idea the plan for tomorrow.
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