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Post by maryland on Aug 16, 2014 2:05:33 GMT
We don't have any intersections like that in our area (at least that I can think of). We have just the stop light, or a 4 way stop. But I would say that the car turning left has the green light, and the car turning right has to yield, so the car turning left has the right of way.
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Post by spitfiregirl on Aug 16, 2014 2:10:02 GMT
Car A provably has an arrow for turning so it has to turn. Car B has to yield to that. We have an intersection like that .
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Post by melanell on Aug 16, 2014 2:27:37 GMT
Having a left turn arrow is a completely different situation - Car A and B both have a green light in this situation. Well, yes, both A & B would have green lights together. When the arrow is gone and A has a regular green, then B would have a green, too, of course. I was just explaining that the arrow is reason why the yield signs are installed around here. But the arrow is only lit a small amount of time. Most times the opposing traffic have the green together or the red together. But even when both have the green, the right turn people have a yield sign to adhere to. Typically, car A will be cautious in turning on a left just because it's the thing you normally do. The yield helps give them a chance at a go even once their arrow is gone, which helps prevent backlogs of people waiting for that short arrow to reappear.
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Post by eastcoastpea on Aug 16, 2014 2:40:57 GMT
Even though everything I've ever been taught about traffic says A should have to yeild because it is crossing traffic the final rule is each driver must follow the signs posted to its lane. Therefore in THIS case B has the yield so it must yield. This here too.
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Post by jennifercw on Aug 16, 2014 3:15:10 GMT
Car A provably has an arrow for turning so it has to turn. Car B has to yield to that. We have an intersection like that . Nope, no arrows at all at some of the intersections in question - just a green light both directions. Typically around here, if car A has a green arrow for turning left, the other side of the intersection also has a green arrow for turning left. In that scenario the light would be red for traffic going straight through intersection and for car B turning right. In the absence of a yield sign Car B would have to stop at light before proceeding with right hand turn when intersection is clear. (Right hand turns on red being legal in this state.) The presence of a yield sign would mean car B needs to yield but not necessarily stop. Here's another strange use of a yield sign... my neighborhood is off a two-lane road that isn't terribly busy. There are several entrances to the neighborhood - no traffic signals but turning lanes present at all of them - both for right hand turns and left hand turns. So all drivers turning *into* the neighborhood are in a turning lane and not blocking the flow of traffic on the main road. At one (but not all) of the entrances there is a yield sign for drivers turning RIGHT into the neighborhood. It's weird and completely unnecessary. I'm not sure I've ever seen more than two cars trying to enter the neighborhood at the same time so it's not like there's ever a wait to turn left. There is a also a yield sign for drivers turning right into the middle school. (Same scenario as my neighborhood with turning lanes both directions but no signal.) That one I can understand a little better because it gets busy. But there is NO yield sign to turn right into the elementary school, which gets equally busy. 98% of the elementary school parents have learned to take turns though so traffic into the elementary school moves a lot smoother than traffic into the middle school where there IS a yield sign. Aaaannnnd also..... nope, that's it. I'm done talking about yield signs for the night!
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Post by georgiapea on Aug 16, 2014 3:30:32 GMT
Yikes, that seems like a set up for accidents. Has this been established in all of GA? I think if I wanted to turn left at an intersection and saw the facing car with their right turn blinker on I'd automatically yield to them. Now if my light showed a turn arrow I'd assume I had the right of way.
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 16, 2014 3:46:43 GMT
At first I thought it a little odd and then recognized that I drive this scenario every day. Car A has the right of way (for me). Otherwise the traffic pattern wouldn't allow car A to turn very often with the amount of traffic that turns right for Car B. All of the cars in A's spot would back up forever.
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Post by hennybutton on Aug 16, 2014 4:15:15 GMT
There is a yield sign and a stop light? Never seen that before. Yeah, that.
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Post by tiffanytwisted on Aug 16, 2014 15:45:21 GMT
I think Car A should have the Yield sign. I think Car B should have the right of way. Car A is crossing traffic and should yield. I agree, that should be the way it is. Since it isn't however, Car A has the right of way.
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Post by oceanchyck on Aug 16, 2014 16:46:35 GMT
Car A has the right-of-way because "yield" means you allow oncoming cars the right-of-way
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Post by georgiabeachbum on Aug 16, 2014 17:24:24 GMT
We just had a HUGE discussion on our Sheriff's dept FB page about this.
I think it's crazy stupid that a car turning LEFT on GREEN has the right of way over a car turning RIGHT on GREEN.
But it is true. At least in GA, the left turning vehicle has the right of way because of that yield sign.
What's even more confusing is when there's not even a signal...and a car turning right still has to yield to a car turning left.
People in my county are UP IN ARMS about all of these yield signs that make no sense. I'm in Georgia too and I go through this exact intersection every morning going to work. I am car A turning left at a green light. Car B has yield sign. Some cars wait for me to turn and some others make me wait for them to turn right. I've always wanted to ask LE about this intersection.
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Post by kellybelly77 on Aug 16, 2014 17:35:16 GMT
I think Car A should have the Yield sign. I think Car B should have the right of way. Car A is crossing traffic and should yield. This was my thought as well.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 16, 2014 17:43:47 GMT
I think Car A should have the Yield sign. I think Car B should have the right of way. Car A is crossing traffic and should yield. That is what the law would be in our state Car A would need to yield to people going straight or turning right. Until the yield sign enters the equation, the yield sign trumps that. The yield sign is there for a reason. We have an intersection like that here but there are 2 lanes where car B is, a lane for going straight, and a lane for turning right. The county chose to put the yield sign there for the cars in the right lane so that the cars turning right on red or green have to yield to the people who are turning left off of the main road, so they can keep the main road from backing up. Since you can turn right on red here, the people turning right can go anytime that there is no one coming red light or green light, so while the light is green the people on the main road have the right of way. However when I turn left at that intersection I always do so cautiously cause you never know what the other person is going to do.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Aug 16, 2014 17:44:54 GMT
The only time I've seen a yield sign and a light at an intersection is when there is a right turn lane that is separated by a triangular median from the through traffic. But, to answer your question, if the right turn has a yield, they need to yield to the left turning vehicle. Otherwise, what's the purpose of having the sign at all?
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Post by jennifercw on Aug 16, 2014 18:18:38 GMT
The only time I've seen a yield sign and a light at an intersection is when there is a right turn lane that is separated by a triangular median from the through traffic. But, to answer your question, if the right turn has a yield, they need to yield to the left turning vehicle. Otherwise, what's the purpose of having the sign at all? A car turning right at the intersection you describe, with the triangular median, would be governed by the yield sign and not the light. So the purpose of the yield sign would be to indicate that a stop on red is not necessary. Right? Sounds like most agree that the car turning right must yield to the car turning left - but that I'm not the only one who feels this is a little counter-intuitive.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Aug 16, 2014 22:41:33 GMT
The only time I've seen a yield sign and a light at an intersection is when there is a right turn lane that is separated by a triangular median from the through traffic. But, to answer your question, if the right turn has a yield, they need to yield to the left turning vehicle. Otherwise, what's the purpose of having the sign at all? A car turning right at the intersection you describe, with the triangular median, would be governed by the yield sign and not the light. So the purpose of the yield sign would be to indicate that a stop on red is not necessary. Right? Sounds like most agree that the car turning right must yield to the car turning left - but that I'm not the only one who feels this is a little counter-intuitive. As I said, it's the only time you see a yield sign at a light here and, yes, it's use in that case is logical. If TPTB want the left-turning car to have the right of way, they are given an advanced green here.
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