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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 4:25:29 GMT
Her position as First Lady or her role as mother?
It has been said that none of Donald Trump's children were raised by nannies. Their mothers were fully in charge.
So what should be Melania's main role now. Serving as her husband's First Lady or doing what is the best interest of her child.
Would you move your child in the middle of the school year or take him/her out of a school that is their best interest.
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Post by verdepea on Feb 12, 2017 4:38:08 GMT
The Trump children grew up in Pent Houses with full time staff and a driver or two. Trump is a flashy socialite and like to be seen about town flashing his latest wife/woman, etc. a hard time believing the Trump Children didn't have a nanny. They sure didn't have the same responsibilies to cook, clean, do laundry, drive their kids to all their activities. Haul all their crapnupstairs, haul the trash out, two days per week, or figure out how to pay for things.
DT like to show off around town. Especially when he was younger, I am sure they hosted a lot and went out a lot.
That said, my values believe children come first.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 4:41:10 GMT
I wonder if people realize that good mothers all over this land, whose spouses are in the military, move their children, sometimes multiple times in multiple years, when their spouses are called to serve their country. Funny how people don't find any conflict in those situations between being a good mother and yet moving children from pillar to post when it comes to serving the good of the nation.
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Post by workingclassdog on Feb 12, 2017 4:43:00 GMT
Uggg I hate political posts and I can't believe I am posting but maybe we should leave it up to her. Why should we get involved with her child? It's their decision not ours.
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Post by Grom Pea on Feb 12, 2017 4:43:58 GMT
Lots of families move for work and relocate their kids mid year, not just the first family. Personally if my husband or I ran for president we'd have to be on the same page about the other person being the first whatever. If we were in agreement then I'd absolutely relocate, it's not like moving to the white house is a surprise. They've had plenty of time to talk with and let their son know about the transition
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Post by workingclassdog on Feb 12, 2017 4:48:17 GMT
Would you move your child in the middle of the school year or take him/her out of a school that is their best interest. This got me thinking as well. I moved over 20 times as a kid. I went to more schools than most kids do their entire lives...I went to public schools, private schools, etc. If we had to move, we moved. Each family is different. What they decide is their personal choice. If my family now had to move, we would move. That said, my husband or I just don't have that type of job that needs relocating for the most part. We just have never moved. Our kids went to the same schools their entire lives, but that doesn't mean going to different schools is any better or worse for a kid. |
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Post by Grom Pea on Feb 12, 2017 4:52:16 GMT
Would you move your child in the middle of the school year or take him/her out of a school that is their best interest. This got me thinking as well. I moved over 20 times as a kid. I went to more schools than most kids do their entire lives...I went to public schools, private schools, etc. If we had to move, we moved. Each family is different. What they decide is their personal choice. If my family now had to move, we would move. That said, my husband or I just don't have that type of job that needs relocating for the most part. We just have never moved. Our kids went to the same schools their entire lives, but that doesn't mean going to different schools is any better or worse for a kid. When I was writing my first post I was thinking about all the air force kids that moved all the time and how my two closest friends that I still speak to and see, even though we live far apart and it's 20+ years later, are air force brats. They had to move a lot but they also knew how to keep in touch :-) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 4:52:20 GMT
But this is the FIRST family. Personally I think her ass should be at the White House, but of all the awful decisions her idiot husband has made, this is not at the top of my rage list.
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Post by trollie on Feb 12, 2017 4:54:53 GMT
I think it is up to Melania to decide what is best for her family. Honestly, this is the least of my concerns when it comes to Trump and the presidency.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 4:55:41 GMT
Uggg I hate political posts and I can't believe I am posting but maybe we should leave it up to her. Why should we get involved with her child? It's their decision not ours. Obviously not since there are so many people judging her parenting choices. I'm an Army brat and married a Marine. I know that people move with their duty stations, but it is their choice and just as many stay behind until things are wrapped up or school has ended for the year. |
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Post by freecharlie on Feb 12, 2017 4:56:19 GMT
I don't have a problem with letting him finish the year. I will have a problem if it continues next year.
This kid is going to be in the news and has his life turned upside down and his dad is a ginormous ass. Letting him be with his friends for the next 4 months.
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Post by cycworker on Feb 12, 2017 4:57:21 GMT
We all know I'm not a fan of pulling kids out of school mid year, so I don't want to be a hypocrite and suddenly say it's ok. That said, it can be done, as those of you who have a military background have demonstrated.
I do think her priority has to be her child. I certainly don't think Trump makes any of his kids his priority. So someone has to look out for Barron. That said - Trump should pay for the security. And if securing Trump Tower is truly causing problems for local businesses in the area, I have a huge issue with that.
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Post by refugeepea on Feb 12, 2017 5:01:17 GMT
Without reading any replies, my first thought was divorce.  I think her child should come first. If keeping him there until the end of the year is what's best, that's what she should do. Of all the asinine things Trumps does, this is not even on my list. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 5:12:43 GMT
Because I think that Barron has asperger's it is best that he stays at his school.
But then again military families rarely have that option. And if a soldier has to move than the president's family should move.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 5:25:47 GMT
Because I think that Barron has asperger's it is best that he stays at his school. But then again military families rarely have that option. And if a soldier has to move than the president's family should move.
? Military families and spouses all have the choice. I don't know what you mean. There is no requirement that the family moves with or at the same time as the enlisted or officer. I don't know what you are referring to. |
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Post by Lori McMud on Feb 12, 2017 5:27:07 GMT
Without reading any replies, my first thought was divorce. Me too. :-) |
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Post by elaine on Feb 12, 2017 5:36:16 GMT
Because I think that Barron has asperger's it is best that he stays at his school. But then again military families rarely have that option. And if a soldier has to move than the president's family should move.
? Military families and spouses all have the choice. I don't know what you mean. There is no requirement that the family moves with or at the same time as the enlisted or officer. I don't know what you are referring to. If an officer is made Commandant of a base, the expectation (although not a legal requirement) is that the spouse will live there and will have a visible role and be active on base. Similar to what First Ladies have usually done in the past. |
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Post by jamielynn on Feb 12, 2017 5:38:13 GMT
I find interesting how many women are pro-woman, pro-mom, my kids/family come first ...... until Melania puts her child first. Suddenly there is outrage.
I don't know what the right answer is. I don't know if it should be a requirement to move for the whole family; I don't know if they should "get" to stay until the end of the school year, or his whole term as some military wives do; I don't know if they should choose to or have to move like many other military wives.
I just find interesting the amount of women who put their kids first or claim to but backlash against this woman for doing so - it's so circumstantial.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 5:39:59 GMT
I think Melania should be free to choose what HER priority is without condemnation from a bunch of women..
Yes, many working families uproot their children mid school year and move them. Often they have economic factors that force the decision because the income isn't enough to support two residences. Even in the military there were plenty of families who choose to not move children mid school year if they had the financial resources to make a decision to remain in place. My kids survived being moved mid year several times..... but it was undeniably rough on them. If I could have afforded to wait until at least summer break I very well would have done so.
Personally, I hate the idea the First Lady is some sort of mandatory unpaid White House staffer. She will be held up for ridicule over her clothing choices. Have her every facial expression analyzed and every movement scrutinized for meaning or lack of manners with no real solid formal etiquette for whether or not she really acted in a bad way.
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 12, 2017 5:40:49 GMT
It wasn't unusual to have 25-50% of my class move in our out during the school year. I worked in a district right next to an army base. It is perfectly normal. Life happens. Many of those kids didn't come from an Army homes either. They had parents who got divorced, lost jobs, were newly hired etc. I always made it a rule that a kid had a buddy for the first three days (kids volunteered) and by then, kids had established new friendships and were part of the classroom. This worked for a large majority of kids. (I will say that kids almost always moved with the army parent if possible.)
I'm not jazzed about the double security costs and I do feel sorry for the people who live and work around Trump Towers in NYC. If the Trumps feel like finishing out the year is best, then do that and then move to Washington. I don't believe for a second that the Trump kids were not partially raised by nannies. The parents were too social to just have a babysitter. I also think that they would want to hire someone they could trust and pay for their confidentiality. Don't know if you get that with just a babysitter.
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Post by pierkiss on Feb 12, 2017 5:46:41 GMT
Is there a particular reason she can't do both? She doesn't have to accompany Donald on every trip, or greet every visitor that comes to the White House. But on the occasion that she is needed to help be an ambassador of sorts, I'm sure they could find a babysitter to stay with their son for a few hours. Couldn't he go stay with one of his siblings at their houses for the weekend, should the need arise for Melania to travel abroad? Or, they could take him with them! Other children of presidents accompanied their parents on various trips to other countries, Baron could too.
And honestly the excuse of not wanting to disrupt his education by moving to the White House in the middle of the year is a terrible excuse. Yes, moving in the middle of the year is hard. My parents moved my brother and I in the middle of my 5th grade year. It was rough. But it turned out ok. But that's what you do when your dad gets a new job and you have to move to a completely new state. If they are worried that he will fall behind academically, they could hire tutors. If they are worried about him fitting in socially, they could always decide to homeschool. Again, they could hire tutors. And hen in the fall when the new school year starts he can make a clean transition into 6th grade.
But I think it is some serious crap that she is refusing to move into the White House and be the First Lady, but yet she expects to profit from the position? No. Just no.
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Post by *KAS* on Feb 12, 2017 5:49:25 GMT
I think it's weird that anybody cares where Melania and Barron live. It just doesn't matter to me in the least. I think it's lovely when the First Ladies take up a cause that is important to them, but I don't base my votes on who the spouse is and what role they may or may not play.
I also would be totally fine if Ivanka was the one who took on some sort of mission while her dad was president. She seems smart and capable and relatable. I would be interested in what she spoke about. I am as interested in Donald Trump's 3rd wife as much now as I was before the election. Haha
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 5:50:21 GMT
Her position as First Lady or her role as mother? It has been said that none of Donald Trump's children were raised by nannies. Their mothers were fully in charge. So what should be Melania's main role now. Serving as her husband's First Lady or doing what is the best interest of her child. Would you move your child in the middle of the school year or take him/her out of a school that is their best interest. What does a nanny matter? He is school age. She doesn't want to disrupt his relationships with his teachers, classmates and a familiar routine/environment. |
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Post by jumperhop on Feb 12, 2017 6:07:33 GMT
I don't know the full story and although it's not a decision I would have made I respect that she needs to be a Mother first and Baron deserves to be put first.
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Post by Peamac on Feb 12, 2017 6:14:19 GMT
I think at Baron's age, her first priority should be as mom. He's in school, so it's not like she doesn't have time during his school day to do some FLOTUS stuff. I didn't expect as much FLOTUS activity from Michelle Obama as I would have from Laura Bush, due to the kids' ages.
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Post by Really Red on Feb 12, 2017 6:38:57 GMT
I haven't personally heard anyone criticize Melania for her choice. I absolutely agree that she should do what's best for her child. I expect he does have some issues because moving a kid in 5th grade shouldn't be an enormous big deal. I would not have moved my son because he does have some difficulties, but my girls would have been SAD, but that's not a reason not to do it. Sounds like M is doing what is best for her child and for her. Good for her.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 6:40:47 GMT
I think it's weird that anybody cares where Melania and Barron live. It just doesn't matter to me in the least. I think it's lovely when the First Ladies take up a cause that is important to them, but I don't base my votes on who the spouse is and what role they may or may not play. I also would be totally fine if Ivanka was the one who took on some sort of mission while her dad was president. She seems smart and capable and relatable. I would be interested in what she spoke about. I am as interested in Donald Trump's 3rd wife as much now as I was before the election. Haha THe only reason I care is because of the additional money it's costing taxpayers. The Obama's two daughters one about the same age as Baron and one younger move to the White House when President Obama took office. To help the girls adjust they moved in Michelle's mother. Didn't cost the taxpaupyers extra money. But then trump is good at spending other people's money to get what he wants. |
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Post by PLurker on Feb 12, 2017 7:01:01 GMT
I think it's weird that anybody cares where Melania and Barron live. It just doesn't matter to me in the least. I think it's lovely when the First Ladies take up a cause that is important to them, but I don't base my votes on who the spouse is and what role they may or may not play. I also would be totally fine if Ivanka was the one who took on some sort of mission while her dad was president. She seems smart and capable and relatable. I would be interested in what she spoke about. I am as interested in Donald Trump's 3rd wife as much now as I was before the election. Haha  and the disruption, inconveniences and additional cost to of the people of NYC. I also don't believe that Melania had much if any say in the matter. If you're life partners, something as huge as becoming POTUS should be a joint decision in my book. Although I don't think her opinion or feelings were considered. If that's true, I feel for her. On the other hand, if she was in agreement with the running for the office , she should suck it up and head to the WH for NYC and other people's sake. You then voluntarily disrupted your own lives, don't disrupt a multitude of others' and make them pay for it, too. |
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Post by flute4peace on Feb 12, 2017 7:15:19 GMT
Her son should be her first priority. As for Ivanka taking some of the FL duties. She's capable and wants to so if Melania doesn't I guess I'm ok with it.
I'm also fine with Melania & Barron living elsewhere, just not in the middle of the city where it's costing a fortune & imposing on the neighborhood.
Mrs. Kennedy spent most of her time away as well.
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Post by pjaye on Feb 12, 2017 7:56:44 GMT
Is there a particular reason she can't do both?
Exactly!
There are billions of women all over the world who work full time as well as raise multiple children.
She has one child and I doubt the job of First Lady is that demanding - and she has the ability to have lots of support staff that all those other billion women do not. Melania isn't going to have to worry about doing the dishes or the laundry or vacuuming, take all of that away and I'm sure there are enough hours in the day for her to take a few hours and show someone around the city.
I bet she has plenty of time to go out at night when she wants to, or have lunch or shop during the day. It's just another bullshit 'spin' that she can't do both and needs to soley focus all of her attention on one child...when so many other First Ladies have done both and so many other women around the world do as well (plus a whole lot more...and done VERY successfully and raised great kids)
Plus by the sounds of that kid he could probably use some other outside influences in his life.
Nothing looks sadder than that kid playing golf on his own in his own floor of a that gold encrusted cage tower. Perhaps he needs to start growing his hair so in a few years a nice princess/prince can climb up and rescue him.
It doesn't sound normal to me for a boy his age to spend all of his time with his mother - when is he going to learn some independence?
Quite frankly none of those Trump kids seem to be able to do anything away from the family. The orange menace and his various wives don't seem to be able to raise independent, self actualised kids, they are all still tied to Daddy's apron strings, and I think that's exactly the way Trump wants it and likes it. |
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and the disruption, inconveniences and additional cost to of the people of NYC.
