twinsmomfla99
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Feb 17, 2017 20:15:52 GMT
I'm hoping it is Mike Pence lol. That would be awesome! If I were on the list of people who received a copy of this "draft," I would be comparing it to the leaked one wird for word. Why? Because if I wanted to catch a leaker, I would give each of my suspects a copy with one word changed where no one would notice. Then if it were leaked you could verify which person leaked it by which version surfaces in the media. If I found ANY differences between my copy and the leaked copy, I would be watching my back and waiting for the next booby trap to make the rounds. ETA: I can't believe I have turned into such a tinfoil-hatter LOL! But seriously, this would make great book plot!
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twinsmomfla99
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Feb 17, 2017 20:17:26 GMT
Curious how the White House planned to give themselves the authority to call up the National Guard over the governors? Wasn't this a plot line in an episode of Designated Survivor? If he is going to go with a tv show plot, I recommend he copy The West Wing and start acting presidential.
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Post by debmast on Feb 17, 2017 20:22:51 GMT
I'm pretty sure they had no idea that they couldn't. Or they figured it really didn't matter. Because he won in a landslide, you know. 306 electoral college votes. A tremendous victory. SaveBiggest since Reagan you know. Well, at least, "somebody" told him that.
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pudgygroundhog
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Jun 25, 2014 20:18:39 GMT
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Feb 17, 2017 20:25:03 GMT
I'm hoping it is Mike Pence lol. That would be awesome! If I were on the list of people who received a copy of this "draft," I would be comparing it to the leaked one wird for word. Why? Because if I wanted to catch a leaker, I would give each of my suspects a copy with one word changed where no one would notice. Then if it were leaked you could verify which person leaked it by which version surfaces in the media. If I found ANY differences between my copy and the leaked copy, I would be watching my back and waiting for the next booby trap to make the rounds. They should probably take a page from top secret movie sets like Star Wars or JJ Abrams movies. I've read similar precautions for movies - code names, burning of scripts, people only reading scripts in the rooms under supervision, individual scripts marked in a way that they know who leaked if they do get out.
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pudgygroundhog
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Feb 17, 2017 20:25:48 GMT
Wasn't this a plot line in an episode of Designated Survivor? If he is going to go with a tv show plot, I recommend he copy The West Wing and start acting presidential. Or maybe Parks and Rec. Knope for president!
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imsirius
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Post by imsirius on Feb 17, 2017 21:03:05 GMT
That would be awesome! If I were on the list of people who received a copy of this "draft," I would be comparing it to the leaked one wird for word. Why? Because if I wanted to catch a leaker, I would give each of my suspects a copy with one word changed where no one would notice. Then if it were leaked you could verify which person leaked it by which version surfaces in the media. If I found ANY differences between my copy and the leaked copy, I would be watching my back and waiting for the next booby trap to make the rounds. ETA: I can't believe I have turned into such a tinfoil-hatter LOL! But seriously, this would make great book plot! Ohh that's a good plan. I think it has has to be someone in the inner circle. Someone close to him. Someone he trusts implicitly. or, I need to stop watching crime shows lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 22:31:19 GMT
linkAccording to the Business Insider there is a pattern emerging on how the White House handles its most controversial plans. The end game, it seems, is to reinforce the repeated assertion by trump and and his band of destroyers that the media is responsible for fake news. From the article.... "The incident reflects an emerging pattern noted by several top political reporters in how the Trump administration handles its most controversial policy proposals, and undermines the press in the process: 1. Wait for a draft memo of a proposal to be leaked to the press. 2. Refuse to comment when asked about the draft. 3. Wait to dispute a story's accuracy until the story is published. 4. Accuse the press of never having sought comment to begin with. Trump has followed this pattern closely. In a press conference on Thursday, he dismissed reports about his campaign team's communication with Russia as "fake news," and said that the Wall Street Journal and New York Times had never asked him for comment before publishing their respective stories. Both outlets, however, either included a White House denial or stated that the White House did not respond to requests for comment." AP asked both the White House and DHS multiple times for comment but never received a response. Melissa McCarthy aka as Sean Spicer said at the time he denied it was a true story "I wish you guys had asked before you tweeted". Based on the lies we know trump and his band of destroyers have told I'm going to believe the AP's story over Spicer's. This is beginning to sound like a little game Bannon thought up because I don't think trump is smart enough. The press is in a hard place if the White House is going to play these little games to discredit the media in general. Without the press poking around we would have no idea what trump was up to until it's too late. It's becoming clear that another word besides "compromise" has been removed from the government's vocabulary and that appears to be "transparency". And I have no doubt if trump thought he could use the National Guard to round up the undocumented folks without a public outrage he would. Edited to add add a quote by Richard Nixon: " The press is our enemy."
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Post by anxiousmom on Feb 17, 2017 23:55:06 GMT
^^^ yes, it was- there was something they cited to say it was constitutional to deploy the national guard, but I don't remember what it was... the governor didn't let them do it, though, either. But that was just fiction; this is 'real' (unfortunately). ETA Here's a line from the draft action, referring to the National Guard: "Based on their training and experience, these men and women are particularly well-suited to assist in the enforcement of federal immigration law..." -- ?? What in their training makes the National Guard 'particularly suited' to assist with immigration? ?? Ohhhh...hahahahahahahaha...excuse me while I laugh. My boy, the one in the National Guard? He *has* been trained...but not in law enforcement. The boy can't remember to put the seat down on the toilet much less be given the responsibility of deciding who gets the boot. On the serious side though...my son is in a unit that is trained to do crowd control. They take that responsibility pretty seriously. But they also took that same oath to uphold the Constitution and I think there would be some hue and outcry if this thing is still being vetted in court for it's constitutionality. The President can federalize the National Guard, but to enforce such an unpopular Executive Order...that would be hard. My understanding is that if he does that, the Governors of the states that the units come from have to agree and allow it to happen. I get that this turns out to be one of those things that isn't actually going to happen but I think we should be concerned not by the fact that there might have been confusion about what the role the National Guard can play, but by the idea that he or someone in the administration thought that it was a good idea. What else will he or his people consider to be so egregious that he considers calling up the Guard to do? Line the streets for the protests he doesn't agree with? Stand along that stupid board wall (oh wait, it has been down graded to a fence and only for a short length that didn't have one before and replacing some other parts)...or standing guard over the dishonest newscasters to ensure only the approved propaganda is read?? I can tell you that at the least my boy would have serious problems with that. They are there to act as protection here in the US. Not to act on the angry whims of a man who thinks that everyone who doesn't agree with him is the enemy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 13:39:36 GMT
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