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Post by deltakaren on Feb 17, 2017 17:40:07 GMT
I'm about pulling my hair out! I don't know WTF I'm doing! This whole tuition statement crap and other expenses... life long learning credits, etc. What is he suppose to claim, what are we suppose to claim??
He received enough scholarships and grants to pay for everything with extra money leftover. He gets all his "tax" money back. Do we want to try and claim an education credit? Unless I've totally screwed up our taxes, we are getting all ours back, plus a little "extra" because DH's business wasn't so great last year.
What is a person suppose to do? It would be different if we could claim the private school tuition we've been forking about because of the horrible public schools!
Thanks,
Karen
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Post by littlemama on Feb 17, 2017 17:46:35 GMT
Those are great questions. I swear someone told me that if there was excess money, you had to claim that as income, but I'm not sure if that is true, or if that applies to the student or the parents!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 17:51:30 GMT
Are you listing him as a dependent on your taxes? If so, you would enter that information onto your taxes. I used TaxAct and it pretty much walked me through how to enter my child's 1098-T onto my 1040. The 1098 will show tuition paid and any grants/scholarship amounts received.
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Post by deltakaren on Feb 17, 2017 17:56:23 GMT
Having DS use the 1098T on his taxes, the "extra" was added into his income. His income total is below the standard deduction, so he will not have to pay extra tax.
He is listed as our dependent, but is filing 2016 taxes too.
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Post by Linda on Feb 17, 2017 17:58:28 GMT
Those are great questions. I swear someone told me that if there was excess money, you had to claim that as income, but I'm not sure if that is true, or if that applies to the student or the parents! YES - you do have to claim it as income - DH ended up paying taxes his first year of college because he didn't realise that and didn't adjust his withholdings to reflect it (he sure did the next year though) DS paid his own way through college and was working part-time so he filed his own taxes - we still claimed him as a dependent (he still qualified) so he had to tick the box on the tax forms where he was claimed as someone else's dependent. I don't remember doing anything with the education credit - sorry - I suspect we didn't qualify
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Post by annie on Feb 17, 2017 18:03:14 GMT
I hear you! It's a pain.
Any grant/scholarship money used to pay room and board is counted as income. That was a rude awakening our first year! My kid owed a ton of money in to taxes. Pisses me off. He's poor enough to get a lot of need-based aid, but then had to pay taxes with money he didn't have.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 18:06:09 GMT
Got it. So you are trying to determine who can take the educational credit if your son claims the difference in scholarship/grant money on his taxes. Are you doing your taxes online? I know that certain companies, depending on which one you are using, have free helplines and would likely better answer that question; however, I would assume the person taking the education credit has to the be the same one who would be claiming the 1098T information being that tuition paid is listed on that form.
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Post by deltakaren on Feb 17, 2017 18:16:49 GMT
I'm so confused.....
Is the 1098T for the entire school year Fall 2016-Spring 2017? Or is it just for the Fall 2016?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 18:19:47 GMT
It's for the calendar year.
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Post by basketdiva on Feb 17, 2017 20:00:00 GMT
In your case it might be wise to a professional for guidance.
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Post by dillydally on Feb 17, 2017 20:19:40 GMT
The 1098-T form is almost useless. Most schools use Box 2 (amounts billed) because it is easier, but that will be the amount the school billed during the calendar year which may not be what you paid - for example, if the school billed in Jul & Dec and you paid in Aug and Jan, then they are reporting 2 semesters of billing, but you only paid for 1 semester. I assume the scholarships reported on the form would be on the same schedule as the billing. It's probably easier to print out a detail of your student's account and add up the total you paid and the total scholarships received. Scholarships for tuition & required fees are considered qualified scholarships and are not taxable; scholarships for other expenses are taxable.
Do you use Turbo Tax or something like that? We switched to a CPA due to complexities with DH's travel, but before that we used turbo tax and it seemed to walk me through everything. If it doesn't do a good job of that, then I would suggest checking in with a tax prep company.
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Post by gsquaredmom on Feb 17, 2017 23:54:49 GMT
I hear you! It's a pain. Any grant/scholarship money used to pay room and board is counted as income. That was a rude awakening our first year! My kid owed a ton of money in to taxes. Pisses me off. He's poor enough to get a lot of need-based aid, but then had to pay taxes with money he didn't have. Yes. This happened to me in college. I even got Pell when most of the people getting it were prisoners. I had to ask for additional loan money to pay my taxes. The financial aid officer said my plight was typical of needy students. He would rework an aid package to get us more loans so we could pay our taxes. Op, I use TurboTax. It tells me what to do.
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Post by littlemama on Feb 18, 2017 0:59:55 GMT
It's for the calendar year. Actually, that is not always the case. The ones I have seen this year are for Fall 2016 and Winter 2017, which was billed in December. There is a checkbox on the form that indicates that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 2:53:51 GMT
It's for the calendar year. Actually, that is not always the case. The ones I have seen this year are for Fall 2016 and Winter 2017, which was billed in December. There is a checkbox on the form that indicates that. The 1098 form represents the amounts paid or billed during a calendar year. So in the OP's case, her son's 1098 it may show an amount that represents Fall 2016 and Winter 2017 tuition, but it will not show Spring 2017 tuition. That will appear on the 2017 1098 statement.
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Post by Peal on Feb 18, 2017 4:47:54 GMT
Where does one get a 1098? My son's mailing address is listed as our address even though he lives at school. We haven't received anything from the school and he says there isn't anything in his online student account. I suspect we won't qualify for anything, but I'd like to have it just in case.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 5:45:13 GMT
Where does one get a 1098? My son's mailing address is listed as our address even though he lives at school. We haven't received anything from the school and he says there isn't anything in his online student account. I suspect we won't qualify for anything, but I'd like to have it just in case. My kids were sent links to a third party website to print their 1098s.
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Post by tduby1 on Feb 18, 2017 12:25:15 GMT
In have a question, too. My HS Jr and HS Sr are dual enrolled through their schools at the local community college. We pay for nothing except books (and only for one of the kids at that). The high schools pays the tuition. However, the kids received the 1098. Since this is not something we actually paid, we should not be including this when we file our taxes, right? Or should we?
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Post by deltakaren on Feb 18, 2017 13:50:39 GMT
Well...after taking a long break, I think I have it all figured out. The school website has the 1098-T in the financials section. There is a 1098-T Worksheet Details tab, that has everything listed by date. It was easy to find the 2016 numbers. I am doing DS's taxes at Taxact.com and it walked me thru all the steps. There is a place to click to change the numbers in box 2. It then separates the scholarship/grant money into qualified (tuition,fees), unqualified (room & board,etc.) and extra $$. He does owe some tax, but it's not as bad as I thought.
Thank you for all the help.
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