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Post by cindytred on Feb 20, 2017 4:44:37 GMT
Update 2/22/17: I'm way passed down in the dumps. Now I'm royally pissed off. BFF hasn't spoken with me in days. Last night she sent me a long text telling me that me booking the cruise threw her for a loop - she thought I was just changing our deposit from one cruise to another. She said she's embarrassed to talk to me, and that she hasn't been given approval for the time off from her job. She is lying to me now - or she lied last week when she said she had approval. And she lied when she adamantly said she was going on this cruise.
I called the cruise line today and did my best to get a refund or to at least get her name off the room. Stupid me put the room in her name. Legally she can show up and go on the cruise and there's nothing I can do about it. She won't - but she could. My newest idea is to contact AmEx and cancel or refute the charge to my card. But I don't know what the ramifications might be if I did that. Does anyone know? The lady on the phone from the cruise line said that they have no idea if it was really my card or not. I offered to take a pic and send it to her - LOL. Its not the cruise line's fault that this happened - but I won't even be able to get into a room that I paid for - or find someone to go in her place.
I tried to call BFF a few minutes ago and it went straight to voicemail. I texted her and said that she's making it worse by not talking to me and explaining whats going on. I want to hear what she has to say and give her a chance - but to be honest, at this point I am so done with her. I am so sick of people making promises they have no intentions of keeping. How can we be close anymore when I know she lies to me? How would you guys feel?
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I'm a teacher. Spring Break is coming and every year for the past 3 years I've gone on a cruise. To the Caribbean. This year I wanted to go to go on a Mediterranean cruise (Italy, France & Spain) in the summer. I booked the cruise with a refundable deposit about a month ago. As the deadline to cancel or pay up approached my BFF said she thought it would cost too much to go to Europe.
Last year she and I went to Jamaica, Cozumel, and Grand Caymans - it was her first cruise and I paid for everything. I had originally planned to go alone - but at the last minute invited her to be my roommate because I had paid for 2 people in a room when it was only me traveling. That was my second time to go on that trip. We had a blast though because we hadn't spent any time with each other in years and it was fun getting to know each other again - and I enjoyed watching her excitement about everything - like watching a little kid do something for the first time.
Anyway, we decided not to do the European cruise this year - but to do the one to Jamaica again. I discussed the costs with her multiple times and she got the time off from work so I called to book the cruise for both of us. I went ahead and paid for both of us because it is less than 30 days from sailing and we could lose our room if I didn't. I told her via text and she didn't respond. I've barely heard from her in days and we usually talk nightly and text multiple times during the day.
When I've talked to her I get a weird vibe. I told her if the cruise is too expensive for her I can go alone or find a friend to go with me. (I really don't like anyone else enough to spend a week with them). I could take one of my daughters - but both of them are going to NYC that week. DH and I are on the verge of divorce so I don't want him to go.
I'm just so down because for the amount of money I've spent on these 2 tickets to Jamaica I could have gone to Europe by myself - which I'm not sure I'd have the nerve to do - but I WANT to! Anyway, I'm just very frustrated.
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Post by valincal on Feb 20, 2017 4:48:32 GMT
That IS frustrating and disappointing. I'd be angry and hurt too. Hugs.
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Post by lucyg on Feb 20, 2017 4:52:08 GMT
I don't blame you for feeling bad. That's a crummy thing to do to anyone. You don't let someone put up a bunch of money on your okay and then not repay them.  I hope you have a fantastic spring break, whatever you end up doing.
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Post by mom on Feb 20, 2017 5:08:10 GMT
maybe she is fine with going - but feels like you dont want her there since you are mentioning asking other people?
I dunno. I would want to believe that she would keep her word about going. Maybe something else is going on?
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Post by freecharlie on Feb 20, 2017 5:11:23 GMT
I would be down in the dumps too. It is really shifty of her to not step up and talk to you.
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Post by miominmio on Feb 20, 2017 5:13:47 GMT
I don't blame you for feeling bad. That's a crummy thing to do to anyone. You don't let someone put up a bunch of money on your okay and then not repay them. I hope you have a fantastic spring break, whatever you end up doing.  I'm sorry she's treating you like this.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Feb 20, 2017 5:18:59 GMT
At this point it's awkward and 100% about money. I'd let the money aspect go, let the dream of Europe go, and just tell her "you know what? Some things changed and I can completely cover your spot. I hope you can join me." And then let it go. You've learned now ahe may not be dependable for these things, so next year just book for yourself. Or always book with her knowing you may end up solo or paying her ticket again. I wouldn't let this get you down another minute, or let it ruin a friendship. Because it will. I hope you have a wonderful time making new memories. 
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 5:24:49 GMT
You mentioned you two discussed the cruise and cost, but did she know you were moving forward with buying the tickets?
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Feb 20, 2017 5:32:03 GMT
I'm just so down because for the amount of money I've spent on these 2 tickets to Jamaica I could have gone to Europe by myself - which I'm not sure I'd have the nerve to do - but I WANT to! Anyway, I'm just very frustrated.
I re-read your post, and this really stands out to me. It sort of comes off as you would have rather been alone than to pay for her at all. As in, you could take her or leave her. That's a crappy feeling for her, too. She may be picking up on that.
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Post by elaine on Feb 20, 2017 5:40:39 GMT
Aww. I'm sorry. I'd feel hurt and frustrated if I were you too.
I'm guessing that she just isn't in a place where she can afford cruise vacations and hasn't found the courage to just come out and tell you that. If I were in her shoes, I'd feel so bad about letting you down, especially after you picked up the tab last year. I feel anxious just thinking about how she must be feeling about owing you a couple of thousand dollars now.
Money and friendship just don't mix well. In the future, plan the vacation you want to take and go for it. You can let her know if she wants to join you that you can split expenses, but don't commit financially for her ahead of time. If that means that she misses out, that's okay.
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Post by lucyg on Feb 20, 2017 5:42:15 GMT
I'm just so down because for the amount of money I've spent on these 2 tickets to Jamaica I could have gone to Europe by myself - which I'm not sure I'd have the nerve to do - but I WANT to! Anyway, I'm just very frustrated.
I re-read your post, and this really stands out to me. It sort of comes off as you would have rather been alone than to pay for her at all. As in, you could take her or leave her. That's a crappy feeling for her, too. She may be picking up on that. OP, just so you know ... this thought that it's your responsibility to pay for your friend (for the second year in a row) to somehow prove what a good friend you are ... is nonsensical.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Feb 20, 2017 6:24:55 GMT
I re-read your post, and this really stands out to me. It sort of comes off as you would have rather been alone than to pay for her at all. As in, you could take her or leave her. That's a crappy feeling for her, too. She may be picking up on that. OP, just so you know ... this thought that it's your responsibility to pay for your friend (for the second year in a row) to somehow prove what a good friend you are ... is nonsensical. That's not what I meant at all. It's already done, she's already been paid for by the OP. There's no changing that. So she has a choice to continue to be down about, and let the awkward money issue possibly come between her and her friend. Or invite her, learn a hard lesson, and move on. OP absolutely deserves to be upset; I would be, too. But since what's done is done, I'd do my best to let it go and move on. Inviting her already-paid-for friend isn't meant to prove anything at all; it's just deciding what's more important, her friendship or the money.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Feb 20, 2017 12:33:07 GMT
I'm sorry you feel so down.
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Post by christine58 on Feb 20, 2017 12:56:04 GMT
OP, just so you know ... this thought that it's your responsibility to pay for your friend (for the second year in a row) to somehow prove what a good friend you are ... is nonsensical. I agree. Stop paying her way. I am betting she feels very awkward about it. Get your money back. Go by yourself or find somewhere that is not as expensive and see if she can afford to pay her own way. Seriously though---stop paying for her. ETA: Wish you were a friend of mine...I am always looking for someone to travel with and I am a teacher too!!
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Post by annabella on Feb 20, 2017 12:59:38 GMT
Wow you paid for her and she still can't go? And couldn't be bother to tell you this in a timely manner. I'm really sorry this happened to you. This would be a friendship dealbreaker for me. As an adult I expect people to communicate clearly to me.
FYI when I take vacations with girlfriends, even though we are friends I never book any travel arrangements without their check in my hand first. If they delay then I delay booking, it's better to do it that way and miss a deadline then to be stuck the other way.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2017 13:31:39 GMT
I don't blame you for feeling bad. That's a crummy thing to do to anyone. You don't let someone put up a bunch of money on your okay and then not repay them.  I hope you have a fantastic spring break, whatever you end up doing. This. I'm sorry that your "friend" isn't sounding like one. Can you see if the other cruise is still open and switch?
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Post by leannec on Feb 20, 2017 13:39:34 GMT
I don't blame you for feeling bad. That's a crummy thing to do to anyone. You don't let someone put up a bunch of money on your okay and then not repay them. I hope you have a fantastic spring break, whatever you end up doing. I hope you hear back from her soon and can work out what is going on
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Feb 20, 2017 13:43:45 GMT
Vacations should always be something to look forward to that bring you pleasure. I can certainly see how what's happening is dampening all that for you.
It's time to have an honest heart-to-heart with your friend. This really sounds like a communication problem. Maybe too many assumptions being made? Sit down with her and talk this through. You really need to know where she stands going forward.
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Post by Nanner on Feb 20, 2017 13:47:57 GMT
I would feel upset and frustrated too. It's a crappy thing for her to do, and not something one friend should do to another. She should be letting you know immediately if she can't swing it. It take it that this one is not a refundable one like the European cruise was?
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Post by Freefallfast on Feb 20, 2017 14:37:30 GMT
Perhaps she assumed you were paying this time as you did before. Then when you booked and the $ came up as due, she was surprised, embarrassed and now awkward.
All depends on what was discussed before and after booking.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 14:46:57 GMT
Did you discuss and get a definite yes on all aspects of the cruise before you booked? Has there been too much assumption on both sides that is now embarrassing? I'm sorry you're feeling let down.
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Post by cindytred on Feb 20, 2017 17:43:34 GMT
I can't get a refund because its too close to sail date. I'll just let her go with me whether she pays or not. Thanks for advice and sympathy.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Feb 20, 2017 18:28:35 GMT
I can't get a refund because its too close to sail date. I'll just let her go with me whether she pays or not. Thanks for advice and sympathy.
I'm so incredibly sorry this happened. Sounds like there was some miscommunication somewhere and hopefully it doesn't affect the friendship. I really hope you have a great time! Jamaica sounds amazing 😍
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Post by christinec68 on Feb 20, 2017 18:38:51 GMT
I would be really frustrated too. It would be presumptuous for her to think you are treating again and really inconsiderate to not say anything.
When it's all said and done...I hope you have a great time!
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Feb 20, 2017 18:46:42 GMT
I'm sorry you are feeling down. It does sound like a frustrating situation. I hope you have a fantastic time though!
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Post by annabella on Feb 20, 2017 22:47:40 GMT
I can't get a refund because its too close to sail date. I'll just let her go with me whether she pays or not. Thanks for advice and sympathy.
Make her pay for something: taxi to cruise, drinks on ship, shore excursions. Just because of the way she handled this. Don't reward bad behavior. Ask for a small sum of money upfront before boarding the ship. There's gotta be someone else that wants to do this with you, you just haven't asked the right people. At a meeting last week my co-worker said she went to Guadaloupe for 10 days because the flight was only $200! My other co-worker said "hey I saw that deal too but couldn't find anyone to go with me". I said I would have gone with you. We do lunches and chat all the time, but I guess because we don't hang out outside of work she didn't think to ask me. In the past few years I've seen friends on facebook post their vacation pics and when I see them next I'll ask who they went with and have discovered that quite a few of my friends are traveling alone. I've made it known to people - you can ask me, I'm always down to travel somewhere. This reminded me of the time my friend bought 2 concert tickets in a city across the country. She had agreed with a friend to do this together. After she bought the tickets her friend just went MIA and avoided her for months. Later he resurfaced and said he couldn't afford to go. She was pissed at how he handled it. She was able to sell the other ticket online.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 23:31:49 GMT
I'm not sure what to do about this year. If there was a communication breakdown, OR since you paid for her last year she assumed you'd be paying again...no idea. What's done is done this year.
But I think you should start planning for that European cruise next year...even going alone. That is something you really want to do and I think you should plan for it.
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Post by papersilly on Feb 20, 2017 23:56:18 GMT
I can't get a refund because its too close to sail date. I'll just let her go with me whether she pays or not. Thanks for advice and sympathy.
if she doesn't pay for the cruise, at least let her pay for excursions, drinks, and whatever else is not included in the cruise. just so there is some fairness to come out of this. this was a painful lesson but at least now you know. next year, indulge yourself wherever YOU want to go.
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Post by cindytred on Feb 21, 2017 0:00:42 GMT
I can't get a refund because its too close to sail date. I'll just let her go with me whether she pays or not. Thanks for advice and sympathy.
Make her pay for something: taxi to cruise, drinks on ship, shore excursions. Just because of the way she handled this. Don't reward bad behavior. Ask for a small sum of money upfront before boarding the ship. There's gotta be someone else that wants to do this with you, you just haven't asked the right people. At a meeting last week my co-worker said she went to Guadaloupe for 10 days because the flight was only $200! My other co-worker said "hey I saw that deal too but couldn't find anyone to go with me". I said I would have gone with you. We do lunches and chat all the time, but I guess because we don't hang out outside of work she didn't think to ask me. In the past few years I've seen friends on facebook post their vacation pics and when I see them next I'll ask who they went with and have discovered that quite a few of my friends are traveling alone. I've made it known to people - you can ask me, I'm always down to travel somewhere. This reminded me of the time my friend bought 2 concert tickets in a city across the country. She had agreed with a friend to do this together. After she bought the tickets her friend just went MIA and avoided her for months. Later he resurfaced and said he couldn't afford to go. She was pissed at how he handled it. She was able to sell the other ticket online. Annabella - your story of the traveling co-workers reminds me that a month or so ago two of my co-workers went to NYC on a 3 day weekend and posted the pics of them frolicking in the snow on FB. When I saw them at work that week I said, "Hey, next time ya'll go somewhere like that I'd love to go too!" She looked at me like I had 3 heads. Oh well, I tried. I'm going to take your advice and make her pay for other things.
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Post by cindytred on Feb 21, 2017 0:04:40 GMT
Did you discuss and get a definite yes on all aspects of the cruise before you booked? Has there been too much assumption on both sides that is now embarrassing? I'm sorry you're feeling let down. Yes, I've discussed it with her for the past month or more - constantly. She agreed to everything. She isn't the kind of person who can make a decision. I love her to death - but she's a bit of a flake. I should have known better.
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