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Post by librarylady on Feb 21, 2017 16:57:20 GMT
From Rachel Maddow last night youtu.be/-8GIVHivbkIIt disturbs me very much to see all these connections.. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 21, 2017 17:23:46 GMT
Trump is putting people in his cabinet that will ultimately keep him and his dishonest people out of jail.
What a clusterfuck.
But hey--Benghazi....emails...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 17:26:44 GMT
It's not "connecting the dots" but a superhighway between trump, those around him and the Russians.
The scariest part to this entire scenario is the FBI is investigating parts of this. Their job is to turn their findings and recommendations over to the Attorney General. The question becomes will Sessions do anything if the FBI recommends charges be brought or just sweep it under the carpet.
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Post by librarylady on Feb 21, 2017 17:32:23 GMT
It's not "connecting the dots" but a superhighway between trump, those around him and the Russians. The scariest part to this entire scenario is the FBI is investigating parts of this. Their job is to turn their findings and recommendations over to the Attorney General. The question becomes will Sessions do anything if the FBI recommends charges be brought or just sweep it under the carpet. Can't see Sessions prosecuting this. |
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Post by reedina on Feb 21, 2017 17:54:10 GMT
Horrifying.
I just finished Red Notice, which is Bill Browder's amazing book at Russian corruption and oligarchs, and talks about how the current sanctions against Russia came to be. So this is fresh on my mind.
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Post by pyccku on Feb 21, 2017 17:57:10 GMT
Isn't it strange - the Russian ambassador to the UN died suddenly yesterday at the age of 64.
These Russians are really unhealthy. They keep having sudden heart attacks at really young ages.
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Post by PLurker on Feb 21, 2017 18:07:42 GMT
wow
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Post by papersilly on Feb 21, 2017 18:25:31 GMT
there should be no doubt at this point that Trump and Russia are connected. i'm just waiting for him to designate a Russian White House that he can stay at in the summer.
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Post by pierogi on Feb 21, 2017 18:29:55 GMT
there should be no doubt at this point that Trump and Russia are connected. i'm just waiting for him to designate a Russian White House that he can stay at in the summer. I'm surprised he isn't calling Mar-A-Lago his dacha. |
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Post by casii on Feb 21, 2017 18:34:58 GMT
Anything reported in Vienna today? I just went over my lunch watching this. She's really put together a road map, so I'm curious. Off to google. Edit: It' being reported through several sources that his extradition has been approved. Oligarch to be extradited |
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Feb 21, 2017 19:28:28 GMT
Horrifying. I just finished Red Notice, which is Bill Browder's amazing book at Russian corruption and oligarchs, and talks about how the current sanctions against Russia came to be. So this is fresh on my mind. I haven't read this yet (I'm on waitlist at the library - it got bumped up on my list with all the current Russia news), but did hear an interview with the author last year and it sounded terrifying. Did you like the book? |
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Post by reedina on Feb 21, 2017 19:46:52 GMT
Horrifying. I just finished Red Notice, which is Bill Browder's amazing book at Russian corruption and oligarchs, and talks about how the current sanctions against Russia came to be. So this is fresh on my mind. I haven't read this yet (I'm on waitlist at the library - it got bumped up on my list with all the current Russia news), but did hear an interview with the author last year and it sounded terrifying. Did you like the book? YES, I loved the book. I believe everyone should read it. It gives incredible insight into how modern Russia works, and the insane level of corruption in Putin's regime. It is heartbreaking and shocking. Save |
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Post by pyccku on Feb 21, 2017 20:02:48 GMT
I haven't read this yet (I'm on waitlist at the library - it got bumped up on my list with all the current Russia news), but did hear an interview with the author last year and it sounded terrifying. Did you like the book? YES, I loved the book. I believe everyone should read it. It gives incredible insight into how modern Russia works, and the insane level of corruption in Putin's regime. It is heartbreaking and shocking. SaveOh, but don't you know - we're the same as the Russians. We aren't innocent, we're just like them. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 21:28:41 GMT
I've been following Louise Mensch & John Schindler on twitter - they're way too in the weeds for me to understand all of what they say, but what they do say is terrifying. I hope there are enough good people left in government to do something if what is being alleged is true. Complicity up and down the gov't.
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Post by Restless Spirit on Feb 21, 2017 21:33:21 GMT
Horrifying. I just finished Red Notice, which is Bill Browder's amazing book at Russian corruption and oligarchs, and talks about how the current sanctions against Russia came to be. So this is fresh on my mind. I haven't read this yet (I'm on waitlist at the library - it got bumped up on my list with all the current Russia news), but did hear an interview with the author last year and it sounded terrifying. Did you like the book? My library has the book as an Ebook. I'm downloading it right now. Thanks for for the recommendation. Can't wait to read it tonight. |
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Post by librarylady on Feb 21, 2017 21:36:16 GMT
I just read Cold Tactics--an old novel originally published in the 1980s. Plot: Russians find a man they can manipulate, manipulate to get him elected as POTUS. Shocking how close it played to the Nov.2016 election.
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Post by reedina on Feb 21, 2017 22:39:01 GMT
YES, I loved the book. I believe everyone should read it. It gives incredible insight into how modern Russia works, and the insane level of corruption in Putin's regime. It is heartbreaking and shocking. SaveOh, but don't you know - we're the same as the Russians. We aren't innocent, we're just like them. It's a big, tangled mess, isn't it??? I don't think it can ever be fixed. Save |
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Post by beebee on Feb 21, 2017 23:50:50 GMT
I don't watch Maddow and have no idea how often she comes on. I do hope someone comes into this thread and updates on what she says after the news that he is going to be extradited.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 1:05:04 GMT
Interesting article: "The Big Picture: Kleptocracy and Capital Flight A few of Donald Trump’s connections to oligarchs and assorted thugs have already received sporadic press attention—for example, former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort’s reported relationship with exiled Ukrainian oligarch Dmytro Firtash. But no one has pulled the connections together, used them to identify still more relationships, and developed an image of the overall patterns. Nor has anyone related these cases to one of the most central facts about modern Russia: its emergence since the 1990s as a world-class kleptocracy, second only to China as a source of illicit capital and criminal loot, with more than $1.3 trillion of net offshore “flight wealth” as of 2016.1 A Guided Tour of Trump’s Russian/FSU Connections The following roundup of Trump’s Russo-Soviet business connections is based on published sources, interviews with former law enforcement staff and other experts in the United States, the United Kingdom, and Iceland, searches of online corporate registries,5 and a detailed analysis of offshore company data from the Panama Papers.6 Given the sheer scope of Trump’s activities, there are undoubtedly other worthy cases, but our interest is in overall patterns." www.the-american-interest.com/2016/12/19/the-curious-world-of-donald-trumps-private-russian-connections/scrupulously sourced |
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Post by peano on Feb 22, 2017 1:07:30 GMT
I don't watch Maddow and have no idea how often she comes on. I do hope someone comes into this thread and updates on what she says after the news that he is going to be extradited. Monday through Friday. If there's any action on the extradition, she'll update tonight. |
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Post by imsirius on Feb 22, 2017 1:13:50 GMT
Just too many coincidences. How can they keep ignoring this?
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 22, 2017 3:02:04 GMT
Just watched Rachel Maddow and she said that Austria agreed to send him to the US but he was arrested on charges unrelated (but similar, only this time from Spain) as he was leaving the courtroom.
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Post by scrapngranny on Feb 22, 2017 3:23:46 GMT
I watched Rachel also tonight. I thought the timing of the Spain extradition arrest was beautiful. Austria may see the handwriting on the wall with Trump and feel he would allow this creep to slip away. By sending him to Spain Trump is powerless.
The Russian mess is going to a huge boiling point and a lot of the administration will be in the hot seat.
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