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Post by jenjie on Feb 24, 2017 18:47:12 GMT
My girlfriends are starting whole30. I want the benefits so I'm slowly but surely talking myself into it. Easing into it, actually. next week is my wedding anniversary so I don't want to set myself up for failure.
But little by little. I'm starting to cut out dairy, hoping it will help my sinuses. That will be easiest for me, other than the gimme of the fact that I don't drink alcohol. I am terrible about candy and soda, and also not keen on giving up bread. But I'm starting to make different choices before going cold turkey. I had a big glass of water yesterday, ds12 says "why aren't you drinking Pepsi? You love it as much as a smoker loves his cigarettes." Smarta$$.
The dr finally said I can wean off lexapro! Which is another big reason I don't want to jump right into the whole30. One detox at a time! If all goes well, I'll be done with it in 2 weeks. So far so good!
The decluttering and organization thread has been a great encouragement to me. Now my girlfriends are starting the 40 bags in 40 days challenge on March 1 so I'm joining them for that.
I had been sleeping horribly. I went away this weekend for a women's retreat, the theme was "be still and know that I am God". There was a lot of time for quiet, rest and reflection. Rest begets rest and I've been sleeping so much better since I came home! But one of the (small) takeaways for me was that too much STUFF doesn't make for a very relaxed atmosphere. So I'm anxious to make a good dent in my STUFF.
Ds12 was released from OT, he has met all of his objectives! That's the good news. He also doesn't feel that ds is on the autism spectrum. Another piece of good news. However, he recommends the next step to be with a behavioralist, which I didn't understand at the time means a mental health specialist. That conjured up some scary stuff in my head but he needs strategy for dealing with OCD and some other stuff. I need to call the OT and find out exactly what he is seeing and recommending so I have an idea of what I'm dealing with when I make that phone call. (I've been making calls but don't have the proper info)
Dd was cast as the evil queen in her school play of Snow White! Very exciting, she loves performing and seems to have a gift for it, which the teacher recognizes. She has her eye on her for next year too.
Ds18 graduates this year and has made little effort to do anything about drivers license, job or college. We had an enlightening conversation where I had to lay down an ultimatum. Good times. He has a particular time period in which to get started on these things.
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Post by freebird on Feb 24, 2017 19:27:44 GMT
So tell me about this 40 bags in 40 days challenge. That sounds really interesting.
I do believe that when we have some emotional baggage to take care of, we'll see it in the way we live and the foods we eat. You're moving in the right direction.
Just remember, it doesn't happen overnight so be patient my friend.
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Post by christine58 on Feb 24, 2017 19:53:40 GMT
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Post by jenjie on Feb 24, 2017 19:56:02 GMT
So tell me about this 40 bags in 40 days challenge. That sounds really interesting. I do believe that when we have some emotional baggage to take care of, we'll see it in the way we live and the foods we eat. You're moving in the right direction. Just remember, it doesn't happen overnight so be patient my friend. Here is the link to the original 40 bags in 40 days blog but there are plenty of people who describe it better online. 😂 www.whitehouseblackshutters.com/40-bags-in-40-days/It's basically you're planning to declutter your house, emptying it of 40 bags worth of stuff in 40 days. There is a printout where you can write down 40 categories you want to declutter. Here is an example.   The challenge begins on March 1. I don't know if I'll have 40 bags worth - or if my boys will let me - but it's worth trying. The woman in the link above has a fb group and my girlfriend set one up for "our" group for the sake of accountability, to encourage each other. Let me know if you're interested freebird, I'll add you to our group. |
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Post by freebird on Feb 24, 2017 20:43:23 GMT
So tell me about this 40 bags in 40 days challenge. That sounds really interesting. I do believe that when we have some emotional baggage to take care of, we'll see it in the way we live and the foods we eat. You're moving in the right direction. Just remember, it doesn't happen overnight so be patient my friend. Here is the link to the original 40 bags in 40 days blog but there are plenty of people who describe it better online. 😂 www.whitehouseblackshutters.com/40-bags-in-40-days/It's basically you're planning to declutter your house, emptying it of 40 bags worth of stuff in 40 days. There is a printout where you can write down 40 categories you want to declutter. Here is an example. The challenge begins on March 1. I don't know if I'll have 40 bags worth - or if my boys will let me - but it's worth trying. The woman in the link above has a fb group and my girlfriend set one up for "our" group for the sake of accountability, to encourage each other. Let me know if you're interested freebird , I'll add you to our group. Listen... first off, we don't have to have permission from our kids to get rid of our own stuff. I can see how they might not want you to go through their closet, but you can certainly go through pretty much anything on that list. Because you own it. *mamma bear* LOL Thank you for that list and the info, that's really interesting! I'm going to give it a shot. |
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Post by jenjie on Feb 24, 2017 21:03:56 GMT
You know that and I know that, freebird! But don't dare touch any of dad's stuff! Even if it's broken and nobody will ever use it. I have to sneak stuff out of my own house! For instance, I made the mistake of donating what I thought was a perfectly good tail light for his truck. I'm not installing it! Turns out it had a crack in it. It was already replaced and he.kept.it. It's no good. Ds18 knew all about it and was livid that I wouldn't keep it! He has told me that if he dies, nothing in his bedroom is ever to be touched. I said guess again and told Dd she is in charge of distributing, disbursing, donating and disposing stuff when I die. Welcome to my world. |
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Post by freebird on Feb 24, 2017 21:24:43 GMT
You know that and I know that, freebird ! But don't dare touch any of dad's stuff! Even if it's broken and nobody will ever use it. I have to sneak stuff out of my own house! For instance, I made the mistake of donating what I thought was a perfectly good tail light for his truck. I'm not installing it! Turns out it had a crack in it. It was already replaced and he.kept.it. It's no good. Ds18 knew all about it and was livid that I wouldn't keep it! He has told me that if he dies, nothing in his bedroom is ever to be touched. I said guess again and told Dd she is in charge of distributing, disbursing, donating and disposing stuff when I die. Welcome to my world. I get it. I totally do. I'd smuggle out the broke, unimportant stuff while they're at school. Maybe not now, but down the road some conversations about how it's not healthy to keep EVERYTHING of dad's is in order. Things aren't memories. |
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Post by jenjie on Feb 24, 2017 21:56:13 GMT
You know that and I know that, freebird ! But don't dare touch any of dad's stuff! Even if it's broken and nobody will ever use it. I have to sneak stuff out of my own house! For instance, I made the mistake of donating what I thought was a perfectly good tail light for his truck. I'm not installing it! Turns out it had a crack in it. It was already replaced and he.kept.it. It's no good. Ds18 knew all about it and was livid that I wouldn't keep it! He has told me that if he dies, nothing in his bedroom is ever to be touched. I said guess again and told Dd she is in charge of distributing, disbursing, donating and disposing stuff when I die. Welcome to my world. I get it. I totally do. I'd smuggle out the broke, unimportant stuff while they're at school. Maybe not now, but down the road some conversations about how it's not healthy to keep EVERYTHING of dad's is in order. Things aren't memories. Yes ❤ thanks 😍 |
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Post by nysparkle on Feb 25, 2017 1:55:15 GMT
jenjie I attempted Whole30 three times.I failed to finish one round but I don't consider it a failure.I found the no dairy a breeze. I also found the no sugar easy enough.I already have a low dairy and low sugar diet so that was most likely why I found the no dairy/no sugar easy to do. I really enjoy flavored seltzer in lieu of diet soda. I had given up cola years ago and switched to lemon/lime diet sodas.I think that also helped me transition to seltzer. The no grains were difficult. At each attempt of a whole30 I had constipation or diarrhea and eventually stopped the program.I need the grains for my digestive health.I learned a lot from my attempts to do a whole30. I say try it if you want to but don't feel bad if you cannot complete it. There is no failure. It is a learning experience to learn what your body needs.  |
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Post by alexa11 on Feb 25, 2017 4:51:26 GMT
I keep looking at Whole 30- we had a thread about it last week. I do everything now except I keep the dairy- can't give up cheese, cottage cheese, and Greek yogurt. So don't beat yourself up if you can't stick to it- small changes are good.
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Post by jenjie on Feb 25, 2017 4:54:34 GMT
jenjie I attempted Whole30 three times.I failed to finish one round but I don't consider it a failure.I found the no dairy a breeze. I also found the no sugar easy enough.I already have a low dairy and low sugar diet so that was most likely why I found the no dairy/no sugar easy to do. I really enjoy flavored seltzer in lieu of diet soda. I had given up cola years ago and switched to lemon/lime diet sodas.I think that also helped me transition to seltzer. The no grains were difficult. At each attempt of a whole30 I had constipation or diarrhea and eventually stopped the program.I need the grains for my digestive health.I learned a lot from my attempts to do a whole30. I say try it if you want to but don't feel bad if you cannot complete it. There is no failure. It is a learning experience to learn what your body needs. Thank you for this! It's very helpful. I hadn't heard about adverse effects.I was messing around with it today. I did pretty good but I snack too much and need something crunchy that's not fruit or vegetable. I can see myself eating way too many roasted salted almonds. I drink Pepsi because I don't drink coffee but need the caffeine. For now I'm trying the mio drops with caffeine. It has some stuff but one squirt compared to a whole can of Pepsi is a big difference. One thing that really appealed to me about whole 30 is reviews that said people were sleeping better and had more energy. If I can do it without the soda, that would be great. |
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Post by beaglemom on Feb 25, 2017 6:07:37 GMT
Whole 30 it's totally worth doing!! I highly recommend signing up for the daily emails on their website. I think it's $15, but you can go back any time to one of the old emails and click the start over and start getting them sent again. I'm on my 4th, did my first August 2014. The emails are really nice because they give you ideas of what to expect physically and mentally through out. The stomach issues noted above are totally normal and get better.... It's usually your body just going through detox. I was a huge milk drinker (couple glasses a day) and cheese eater. I have had maybe 5 glasses of milk since my first Whole30, and I think at least three were when I was pregnant and trying to kill heart burn. I'm also much pickier about what cheese I'll eat now. I think the most eye opening is that there is sugar in Everything!!! It does take a lot of label reading and cooking from scratch, but I firmly believe it is wonderful as a reset and if you do the reintroduction phase correctly it really helps you to see what your body reacts poorly to. And I sleep a million times better when I'm on it!!! Much quicker to fall asleep, I stay asleep better and if the baby wakes me up I go back to sleep right away after feeding him. I can't say enough! My Whole30 /paleo Pinterest board most things can be adapted to Whole30 if they aren't already. |
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Post by nysparkle on Feb 25, 2017 14:04:16 GMT
There is a Whole30 forum here. They have a fb page as well. I find any discussion on "what can I have" gets a hand slap to go read the book.Discussions on doing a modified Whole30 is also discouraged. I understand as their aim is to keep people on topic. beaglemom I missed the Whole30 thread last week. Thanks for mentioning it. I'll go look for it. |
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Post by jenjie on Feb 25, 2017 17:03:58 GMT
I keep looking at Whole 30- we had a thread about it last week. I do everything now except I keep the dairy- can't give up cheese, cottage cheese, and Greek yogurt. So don't beat yourself up if you can't stick to it- small changes are good. Good for you! And thanks for the tip about the whole30 thread. I looked and couldn't find anything newer than months and months ago. |
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Post by jenjie on Feb 25, 2017 17:11:07 GMT
Whole 30 it's totally worth doing!! I highly recommend signing up for the daily emails on their website. I think it's $15, but you can go back any time to one of the old emails and click the start over and start getting them sent again. I'm on my 4th, did my first August 2014. The emails are really nice because they give you ideas of what to expect physically and mentally through out. The stomach issues noted above are totally normal and get better.... It's usually your body just going through detox. I was a huge milk drinker (couple glasses a day) and cheese eater. I have had maybe 5 glasses of milk since my first Whole30, and I think at least three were when I was pregnant and trying to kill heart burn. I'm also much pickier about what cheese I'll eat now. I think the most eye opening is that there is sugar in Everything!!! It does take a lot of label reading and cooking from scratch, but I firmly believe it is wonderful as a reset and if you do the reintroduction phase correctly it really helps you to see what your body reacts poorly to. And I sleep a million times better when I'm on it!!! Much quicker to fall asleep, I stay asleep better and if the baby wakes me up I go back to sleep right away after feeding him. I can't say enough! My Whole30 /paleo Pinterest board most things can be adapted to Whole30 if they aren't already. Awesome beaglemom! I'm getting excited! I'm not officially starting yet because I know I have a few unpredictable days coming up and I don't want to set meself up for failure. But I am making changes already. I love dippy eggs (don't do a search for whole30'and runny eggs - it pulls up stuff about runny noses on whole 30! Yuck!). But what to eat it with if not toast? I had the idea this morning to just eat them with a cubed roasted potato. It worked fine. |
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Post by mom on Feb 25, 2017 17:22:55 GMT
jenjie sounds like your weekend away has been good for you! I have never done whole 30 - I think I could do it if I could have grains. Thats the part that scares me! LOL I could cut cokes, alcohol and milk easy, but grains? I dunno. I am doing the 40 bags program starting March 1. DS1 graduates in May and I see this as a way to start getting my house ready for the company that will be coming into town. When reading about your son, I am reminded by something I heard at grief counseling when my mom died. My therapist told me that my mom's stuff is not my mom. Getting rid of (some) of her stuff does not take away the memories of my mom. Obviously I knew this - but when I was struggling to get rid of stuff I constantly reminded myself of this. Maybe talking with your son about this will help him move forward?
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Post by alexa11 on Feb 25, 2017 19:07:16 GMT
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Post by jenjie on Feb 25, 2017 19:36:42 GMT
jenjie sounds like your weekend away has been good for you! I have never done whole 30 - I think I could do it if I could have grains. Thats the part that scares me! LOL I could cut cokes, alcohol and milk easy, but grains? I dunno. I am doing the 40 bags program starting March 1. DS1 graduates in May and I see this as a way to start getting my house ready for the company that will be coming into town. When reading about your son, I am reminded by something I heard at grief counseling when my mom died. My therapist told me that my mom's stuff is not my mom. Getting rid of (some) of her stuff does not take away the memories of my mom. Obviously I knew this - but when I was struggling to get rid of stuff I constantly reminded myself of this. Maybe talking with your son about this will help him move forward? Thanks. You are right. Unfortunately this is a part of his personality . Both of my boys want to keep everything. Ds18 still has happy meal toys from when he was 3. Maybe we can start a 40 bags in 40 days thread here and encourage each other! |
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Post by beaglemom on Feb 26, 2017 6:02:13 GMT
Awesome beaglemom ! I'm getting excited! I'm not officially starting yet because I know I have a few unpredictable days coming up and I don't want to set meself up for failure. But I am making changes already. I love dippy eggs (don't do a search for whole30'and runny eggs - it pulls up stuff about runny noses on whole 30! Yuck!). But what to eat it with if not toast? I had the idea this morning to just eat them with a cubed roasted potato. It worked fine. I love poached eggs!! I roast sweet potatoes multiple times a week. In the morning I reheat them with greens (kale and/ or spinach) and a meat. And then I usually add some avocado. I love the runny eggs mixed in. Lunch is usually leftovers from the night before in salad form. I am loving flavored Olive oils with balsamic for salad dressing. Citrus flavors are my favorite -lemon, lime, blood orange. |
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Feb 26, 2017 15:00:59 GMT
Thanks. You are right. Unfortunately this is a part of his personality . Both of my boys want to keep everything. Ds18 still has happy meal toys from when he was 3. Maybe we can start a 40 bags in 40 days thread here and encourage each other! I mentioned the 40 bags in 40 days on the decluttering/organizing thread earlier this week. If you want to use that thread to keep on track for this challenge, feel free to. If you think a separate thread would be better, that would work too. Hope to see you over on that thread more in the coming 40 days as you declutter! When reading about your son, I am reminded by something I heard at grief counseling when my mom died. My therapist told me that my mom's stuff is not my mom. Getting rid of (some) of her stuff does not take away the memories of my mom. Obviously I knew this - but when I was struggling to get rid of stuff I constantly reminded myself of this. This has been my struggle over the past 10 months since my mother passed. I did finally take 2 boxes of her old papers to be shredded on Friday. There are still several boxes of genealogy research she did and family photos to deal with, as well as a few other boxes of stuff. It has been hard to let things go. Throwing old photos out has been especially tough for me, even when I don't know a soul in the photos (once a scrapbooker, always a scrapbooker). DH reminded me that those photos were her memories and not mine. It does help some to keep that in mind. Unfortunately this is a part of his personality . Both of my boys want to keep everything. Ds18 still has happy meal toys from when he was 3. Have you thought about giving them each a set number of storage boxes (whatever you have the space for) and telling them that what they keep has to fit in those boxes? Maybe having a bit of control would help them let go of some things. If they already have the packrat mentality, then I would imagine the loss of their father is only making it worse. Hugs to all of you. |
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Post by Peamac on Feb 26, 2017 15:44:46 GMT
Maybe you and the boys can take pictures of some of the things you'd like to clear out. They can make a small album of those photos and write about any memories they have. That way they can still see the "things" that trigger the fond memories. When they go off to college, they won't be able to take all those things with them, but they can take an album.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 15:52:13 GMT
These sound like great changes!
For the 40 bags, part of me thinks it's a great idea. Another part of me hates that I live in a culture w/so much acquisitiveness that so many people can remove 40 bags of stuff from their home.
What makes us buy so much?
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Feb 26, 2017 16:42:08 GMT
You know that and I know that, freebird! But don't dare touch any of dad's stuff! Even if it's broken and nobody will ever use it. I have to sneak stuff out of my own house! For instance, I made the mistake of donating what I thought was a perfectly good tail light for his truck. I'm not installing it! Turns out it had a crack in it. It was already replaced and he.kept.it. It's no good. Ds18 knew all about it and was livid that I wouldn't keep it! Ugh. My son has a headlight from the mini-van we had when he was much younger. He also has a piece of the old hideous aluminum siding that we tore off our house. It's all about loss. I know your son is dealing with a much more profound loss, but my son has an unusually poor memory and he explains that he's terrified of losing all his childhood memories. Hanging on to things helps stave off memory loss for him. Of course, when he says that, I switch from frustrated and angry to frustrated and sad. Mine is almost out of college. Last year, I suggested the same thing as Peamac, that he take photos of things he doesn't want to forget. So far, it's worked with some things but not others. (Yes, the damn headlight and aluminum siding under his bed...) |
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Post by jenjie on Feb 27, 2017 19:04:09 GMT
**GypsyGirl** thanks for your suggestions. I have to try. I know what you mean about pictures. Fred's nana (stepgrandmother) gave us an album full of photos of his grandparents but also included are pics of her friends. I need to sit down with her and go through the photos and have her tell me who everyone is. No reason to keep pictures that nobody is related to or knows.
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Post by jenjie on Feb 27, 2017 19:05:30 GMT
These sound like great changes! For the 40 bags, part of me thinks it's a great idea. Another part of me hates that I live in a culture w/so much acquisitiveness that so many people can remove 40 bags of stuff from their home. What makes us buy so much? I know. Every time I declutter I think about choosing my purchases more wisely. And yet having that amazon prime so close to my fingertips makes it so easy. |
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Post by jenjie on Feb 27, 2017 19:06:48 GMT
You know that and I know that, freebird! But don't dare touch any of dad's stuff! Even if it's broken and nobody will ever use it. I have to sneak stuff out of my own house! For instance, I made the mistake of donating what I thought was a perfectly good tail light for his truck. I'm not installing it! Turns out it had a crack in it. It was already replaced and he.kept.it. It's no good. Ds18 knew all about it and was livid that I wouldn't keep it! Ugh. My son has a headlight from the mini-van we had when he was much younger. He also has a piece of the old hideous aluminum siding that we tore off our house. It's all about loss. I know your son is dealing with a much more profound loss, but my son has an unusually poor memory and he explains that he's terrified of losing all his childhood memories. Hanging on to things helps stave off memory loss for him. Of course, when he says that, I switch from frustrated and angry to frustrated and sad. Mine is almost out of college. Last year, I suggested the same thing as Peamac, that he take photos of things he doesn't want to forget. So far, it's worked with some things but not others. (Yes, the damn headlight and aluminum siding under his bed...) Oh wow yes if he struggles with memory loss I can see why he wants to hold onto things. |
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