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Post by meriannj on Aug 18, 2014 12:06:40 GMT
I work in a semi-small business here. It has a good number of employee's but its a place where everyone knows everyone. Well a new job came open and I applied for it and didn't get it. They had 5 internal app's. I just found out on Friday that I didn't get the job but I am still just stinging over it. I KNOW that would have been the perfect job for me. Only about 10 people knew I applied and interviewed so thats not a real concern but in my current position I will have to deal with the person who got the job and its not going to be easy. I guess this is more of a whine than anything, and I know I need to pull up my big girl panties and just get over it but MAN I wanted that job.
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Post by onlywork2scrap on Aug 18, 2014 12:42:33 GMT
That is very disappointing, I know. Sometimes we just need to vent. Perhaps there is something better waiting for you. Timing is everything. Just remember when you deal with the person that got the job not to be jealous or catty. As hard as it is, take this as a learning experience. Your reaction to this may very well get you into a job you want.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 12:47:17 GMT
I'm sorry that didn't work out for you. Hopefully it means there's an even better opportunity on the horizon and another position will open up.
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Post by mallie on Aug 18, 2014 12:55:45 GMT
Time is the healer in these matters.
That said, be very careful especially if the successful candidate knows who else applied for it.
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Post by oblibby on Aug 18, 2014 12:59:15 GMT
It's disappointing but often, with the passing of time, you come to the conclusion that it wouldn't have been the best job for you anyway, whether it's a team dynamic, work/life balance thing or abetted opportunity arising at a later date.
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Post by annabella on Aug 18, 2014 13:50:04 GMT
I'm sorry! Often it's all about relationships and personalities, not your skill set.
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Post by marzbar71 on Aug 18, 2014 14:53:23 GMT
If you really want more info, I think it would be appropriate to talk to the hiring manager. DON'T say "why didn't I get the job?". But you could say, "Thank you for the opportunity to interview for the XX position. Do you have any suggestions of some development goals I could work on so that if another position comes open in the future, I'm more prepared?" or something to that effect.
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Post by peasapie on Aug 18, 2014 15:01:30 GMT
I'm sorry you didn't get the job. I've been in your shoes many times, and it's hard to figure why we don't get a job when an interview went so well.
These days I have to interview and hire people myself. Often there are several good candidates for the job and it's so hard to choose one over the other. It might come down to something very small like a few extra years of experience, being bi lingual even though that's not a requirement, or what kind of person a co worker might get along with best.
Every interview is good experience, though. I hope the next time is the charm!
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Post by scrappinmama on Aug 18, 2014 15:10:09 GMT
I'm sorry you didn't get the new position. I know it must really be discouraging. I would try my best to just be kind to the person who did receive the position. When I worked at a university, a position opened up in my department. It meant a promotion in salary, as well as some other perks. I knew that a friend was applying. I went out of my way and asked if he would mind if I applied. I just didn't want to create hurt feelings. He said no problem. I applied and got the job. He was really pissed, and pretty much stopped being my friend.
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Post by annabella on Aug 18, 2014 15:41:51 GMT
I'm sorry you didn't get the new position. I know it must really be discouraging. I would try my best to just be kind to the person who did receive the position. When I worked at a university, a position opened up in my department. It meant a promotion in salary, as well as some other perks. I knew that a friend was applying. I went out of my way and asked if he would mind if I applied. I just didn't want to create hurt feelings. He said no problem. I applied and got the job. He was really pissed, and pretty much stopped being my friend. I was in a similar position, a friend of mine wanted to apply for a job at my company (that I wasn't interested in). I didn't want to be impolite and say no, but quite frankly I didn't want her working here. There's really nothing polite you can say when asked a question like that.
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Post by scrappinmama on Aug 18, 2014 17:14:31 GMT
I'm sorry you didn't get the new position. I know it must really be discouraging. I would try my best to just be kind to the person who did receive the position. When I worked at a university, a position opened up in my department. It meant a promotion in salary, as well as some other perks. I knew that a friend was applying. I went out of my way and asked if he would mind if I applied. I just didn't want to create hurt feelings. He said no problem. I applied and got the job. He was really pissed, and pretty much stopped being my friend. I was in a similar position, a friend of mine wanted to apply for a job at my company (that I wasn't interested in). I didn't want to be impolite and say no, but quite frankly I didn't want her working here. There's really nothing polite you can say when asked a question like that. He applied for 2 similar positions and didn't get those either. He had no excuse to treat me like crap. It wasn't my fault that he didn't get the position.
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Post by krc11 on Aug 18, 2014 17:28:49 GMT
I feel your pain. I'm in the same situation. I'm not sure if the "successful" internal applicant knows I applied. Maybe b/c my manager talks to much. That's how I know he applied and knew instantly that he was going to get the position even before I interviewed. I still did the interview as convincingly as possible. The only highpoints was I was told I did better than the manager expected me to (but I still didn't get the job). Wasn't happy but I will get over it. It has tainted my thoughts about the company b/c the reasons I think he got it aren't fair (or legal IMO). Bad thing is I got dumped with his old job "as a promotion" in a way I couldn't refuse the job and still hope to stay employed. Of course, those are all just my thoughts and none of it is based in reality (I'm sure according to mgt).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 17:34:37 GMT
Just remember that for every job out there, there is someone who found something better and moved on.
Perhaps the person they hired won't work out and the job will reopen (that has happened to me). Perhaps a better job is around the corner (also happened). Keep in mind that there are at least 8 other people who applied that are disappointed that they didn't get it also, so you aren't alone in feeling that way. Maybe your company even has something else in mind for you that is a better fit.
I'm sure that in a month, a year, or even a couple of years down the road you will say "I'm glad I didn't get that job because then I wouldn't have _________" No matter what it is that I have thought I missed out on, I'm almost always grateful afterwards in some way or another.
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Post by meriannj on Aug 18, 2014 20:05:01 GMT
Thanks all! I know in the grand scheme this is not a big deal. My boss who was amazing at helping me with references, really is working with me to get me to adjust my current job so I won't try and leave again. So maybe this is where I am suppose to be for awhile. I did find out today I was in the top 2 and the one who got it had a degree that fit closer to the needs of the job where mine didn't. The really crappy part is I like the girl who got it so now I can't even be mad at her, lol!
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Post by renateb on Aug 18, 2014 20:14:35 GMT
Keep doing what you are doing and do your best at it. Nobody knows what the future holds. I was in a similar position 4 years ago. I was a teacher's aid and applied for an administrative assistant position. I didn't get the job. The person hired had more accounting experience and excel experience. Six months after she started, it wasn't working out. I could tell there were problems so I would go home and get on Microsoft's website and taught myself Excel the quickest and best I could. I have been the administrative assistant now for 4 years. Funny how things work out sometimes.
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Post by likescarrots on Aug 19, 2014 1:30:35 GMT
I'm also going through this situation right now and I'm actually shocked at how hard I am taking it. I interviewed in the spring and they hired an outside person, and I guess I feel kind of betrayed or not valued. It's really eaten at me and I don't want to be this person, I don't know how to get over it. My work is fairly specialized so I don't see any local opportunities opening up for me , and I'm not currently in a position to move (though I would really like to), so I guess that's not helping matters. I'm sorry you are also going through it.
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Post by CarolT on Aug 19, 2014 1:35:57 GMT
I'm sorry you didn't get the new position. I know it must really be discouraging. I would try my best to just be kind to the person who did receive the position. When I worked at a university, a position opened up in my department. It meant a promotion in salary, as well as some other perks. I knew that a friend was applying. I went out of my way and asked if he would mind if I applied. I just didn't want to create hurt feelings. He said no problem. I applied and got the job. He was really pissed, and pretty much stopped being my friend. I'm in a similar situation right now. Two positions in my department were open - my good friend was applying, and she really encouraged me to apply as well. Everyone (including me and my friend) thought she was a shoe-in for one of the positions, and I thought I had slim shot at the other. Our thinking was that we work well together and would be able to get a lot done. Before I applied, we talked a lot about the fact that I would be fine with not getting one of the positions and and I didn't want it to be weird between us if she got one of the positions and I didn't. I got one of the positions and she didn't. It's been a few weeks now, and she has been sullen and grumpy at work and has completely given me the cold shoulder. I know it stings and that she's disappointed and embarrassed (she made a big deal out of applying for the position at work and all over Facebook), but it is not my 'fault' that she didn't get the job - it was even her idea that I apply. I can tell you that her reaction has been noticed by many more people than just me... definitely keep doing your best and good things will come. I saw a similar situation recently, but the person who was passed over worked hard at helping the person who got the job be successful. He ended up getting an even better job in a location that was much better for him and for more money. I really think his professionalism is what made the difference and helped him ultimately be even more successful
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Post by anniefb on Aug 19, 2014 2:07:37 GMT
I'm sorry that didn't work out for you. Hopefully it means there's an even better opportunity on the horizon and another position will open up. I agree. Do hope that something better is on the horizon.
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Post by Merge on Aug 19, 2014 2:08:44 GMT
Happened to me - applied for a middle school choir position last spring and didn't get it. I was really upset. I mean really. And it's awkward because my daughter will be attending this school and will be in the choir, first with the person who got the job instead of me and then the person who didn't hire me. Awkward.
Ultimately I had to get over it because I refuse to let my feelings poison what should be a wonderful experience for my kid. I've thrown myself back into my current job and am determined to work harder and do a better job than ever.
Can you find a way to make your current job better/more interesting? Ask for additional responsibilities? Create a new project for yourself? Make something better? I think a distraction and renewed interest in the current job will help. And maybe this is your cue to look somewhere else for a job.
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Post by peasquared on Aug 19, 2014 2:16:15 GMT
I've been in your shoes and remember how badly it feels. I applied for a management position once and didn't get it, but was asked to train the gal who did. I knew the job inside and out and was tempted to not train her on everything, but thought better of it. I taught her everything I knew, helping her as much as I could. It paid off, while she performed well, her personality didn't click with her staff. They ended up giving me the job because I had been so supportive of her and the company. Keep your chin up! Things work out in the end. You may end up with a bigger and better position!
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Post by 2peafaithful on Aug 19, 2014 3:11:09 GMT
Not specific to job hunting but when things happen in life that seem perfect and just right but they don't work out I have usually some pain or disappointment at first and than if I am still struggling I try to remember that it was meant to be it would have work out. Usually something happens on down the road that is better and I end up grateful that what I wanted didn't work out. Trials like that help me when the next one rolls around.
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Post by meriannj on Aug 19, 2014 11:43:27 GMT
Thanks again, its a little better today. I have a big event that I am trying to focus on and not let it get to me. I know that in the end there is a good reason and things will work out the way they were suppose to. Thanks for all the love!!!!!!!!!
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Post by eisforennui on Aug 19, 2014 12:29:26 GMT
a couple of years ago, i applied for a job and a co-worker, who had been there less time and was frankly not as good as i am, applied for the same job. everyone thought i would get it. she got the job. i was devastated. i thought i was trash after that. but in the end it was because my supervisors thought another job was around the corner and they wanted me for that one. (it didn't end up coming and i ended up getting the original job after the other chick moved, but.) sometimes there are reasons that you don't know that make sense in the end. though they should have just given it to me in the first place.
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Post by scrappinmama on Aug 19, 2014 13:14:16 GMT
I'm sorry you didn't get the new position. I know it must really be discouraging. I would try my best to just be kind to the person who did receive the position. When I worked at a university, a position opened up in my department. It meant a promotion in salary, as well as some other perks. I knew that a friend was applying. I went out of my way and asked if he would mind if I applied. I just didn't want to create hurt feelings. He said no problem. I applied and got the job. He was really pissed, and pretty much stopped being my friend. I'm in a similar situation right now. Two positions in my department were open - my good friend was applying, and she really encouraged me to apply as well. Everyone (including me and my friend) thought she was a shoe-in for one of the positions, and I thought I had slim shot at the other. Our thinking was that we work well together and would be able to get a lot done. Before I applied, we talked a lot about the fact that I would be fine with not getting one of the positions and and I didn't want it to be weird between us if she got one of the positions and I didn't. I got one of the positions and she didn't. It's been a few weeks now, and she has been sullen and grumpy at work and has completely given me the cold shoulder. I know it stings and that she's disappointed and embarrassed (she made a big deal out of applying for the position at work and all over Facebook), but it is not my 'fault' that she didn't get the job - it was even her idea that I apply. I can tell you that her reaction has been noticed by many more people than just me... definitely keep doing your best and good things will come. I saw a similar situation recently, but the person who was passed over worked hard at helping the person who got the job be successful. He ended up getting an even better job in a location that was much better for him and for more money. I really think his professionalism is what made the difference and helped him ultimately be even more successful I hope your friend comes around too. Sadly, mine never did. But I have since moved on to another job. And another state.
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