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Post by elaine on Mar 22, 2017 10:57:34 GMT
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Post by elaine on Mar 22, 2017 11:01:34 GMT
Body of the article:
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Mar 22, 2017 11:11:27 GMT
And he has confirmed it after the Trump campaign denied any ties of any of its members to Russia. link  Oh, the horror! A "gotcha" is definitely in order here. Hopefully some real trails of actionable incidents will soon follow. Maybe it is only a matter of time before some in the basket start turning on each other. On the other hand, Mr Sean Deflector Spicer has already said Manafort only played a tiny part in the campaign
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Post by pyccku on Mar 22, 2017 11:15:26 GMT
Have you read the hacked phone messages between his daughters? They knew he was up to some shady stuff. But they kept "eating the lobster" as one of them put it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 12:48:29 GMT
pyccku is there transcripts of those calls? I would be interested in reading them.
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Post by pyccku on Mar 22, 2017 12:52:40 GMT
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Post by casii on Mar 22, 2017 13:04:04 GMT
I just finished reading that and came here to see if anyone had posted yet!
Holy cow, what are the next steps? And for the first person on here who goes on about "But her emails!"; take it to another thread.
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.” ~Cicero
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Post by Darcy Collins on Mar 22, 2017 13:13:12 GMT
And he has confirmed it after the Trump campaign denied any ties of any of its members to Russia. linkI'm getting an error to your link. Manafort resigned because of his links to Russia during the campaign. ETA - oops, see the full article below. I guess I'm just confused on why the AP would say the Trump campaign denied ties to Russia by Manafort - it was specificially his ties that forced his resignation in August..... this from a news article at the time: www.politico.com/story/2016/08/paul-manafort-resigns-from-trump-campaign-227197
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Post by beachbum on Mar 22, 2017 13:35:39 GMT
It's like watching a freaking game of Jenga!- you know someone is going to pull out the wrong block, you just don't know when. Fingers crossed that it's soon.
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Post by imsirius on Mar 22, 2017 14:21:02 GMT
This is a good start. It won't be long before the truth comes out when the pressure gets too much. I think Trump's people (the ones who he thinks are friends and not just playing him or riding his coat tails) will try to save their own skin by outing him rather than going down with their fearless leader (or dupe)
Shit is going to hit the fan soon...I hope Hillary has a front row seat.
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Post by annabella on Mar 22, 2017 14:31:16 GMT
Have you read the hacked phone messages between his daughters? They knew he was up to some shady stuff. But they kept "eating the lobster" as one of them put it. I can't believe they were dumb enough to talk so casually about criminal things via text.
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Post by trollie on Mar 22, 2017 14:42:15 GMT
LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!
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Post by pyccku on Mar 22, 2017 15:16:25 GMT
Have you read the hacked phone messages between his daughters? They knew he was up to some shady stuff. But they kept "eating the lobster" as one of them put it. I can't believe they were dumb enough to talk so casually about criminal things via text. It should be fairly clear by now that if you don't want something to get out, you should NEVER share it electronically. Anything secret shouldn't be shared via text. Or twitter. Or facebook. Or any sort of thing that could be hacked or saved by the way-back machine. Save
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Post by elaine on Mar 22, 2017 15:25:46 GMT
Have you read the hacked phone messages between his daughters? They knew he was up to some shady stuff. But they kept "eating the lobster" as one of them put it. I can't believe they were dumb enough to talk so casually about criminal things via text. You know, one month ago I would have said that I wouldn't believe it if the POTUS were dumb enough to make unsubstantiated criminal accusations regarding a previous President via Twitter. But he did. And there are no consequences. It did seem as if one of the daughters wasn't particularly proud of her father's activities. Maybe on some level she was hoping her texts would be discovered.
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Post by lizacreates on Mar 22, 2017 18:09:52 GMT
What I'd like to know is if Trump wasn't paying Manafort, who was? And why? Manafort is very much like Trump – he likes to play fast and loose with some of our laws. Apart from his scheming to gain 20% partnership of a development that was granted a $43M HUD grant on top of his fee for lobbying for that grant, he was also adviser to and business partner of Dmytro Firtash, revealed by Wikileaks to be the frontman for Semion Mogilevich, one of the biggest Russian mob bosses. The reason I recall Firtash was because he was indicted here in Chicago several years ago on charges of bribery and corruption. Manafort has a very long history of lobbying for corrupt power brokers, kleptocrats and dictators.
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Post by M~ on Mar 22, 2017 20:01:35 GMT
does someone have a link where I can read transcripts of the communications with his daughters??
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 21:31:33 GMT
does someone have a link where I can read transcripts of the communications with his daughters??
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 21:38:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 21:41:38 GMT
Finding snippets in various articles.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 21:49:56 GMT
"Gross" just makes me lol.
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Post by elaine on Mar 22, 2017 21:50:21 GMT
What I'd like to know is if Trump wasn't paying Manafort, who was? And why?Manafort is very much like Trump – he likes to play fast and loose with some of our laws. Apart from his scheming to gain 20% partnership of a development that was granted a $43M HUD grant on top of his fee for lobbying for that grant, he was also adviser to and business partner of Dmytro Firtash, revealed by Wikileaks to be the frontman for Semion Mogilevich, one of the biggest Russian mob bosses. The reason I recall Firtash was because he was indicted here in Chicago several years ago on charges of bribery and corruption. Manafort has a very long history of lobbying for corrupt power brokers, kleptocrats and dictators. It was fascinating that at the end of the article that it mentioned that the Russian who had been strong arming Manafort to get his money back, dropped his case when Trump announced his candidacy. I would imagine that is how Manafort was paid...
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Post by imsirius on Mar 23, 2017 13:13:52 GMT
I hadn't seen all of those texts.
Wowzers.
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Post by lizacreates on Mar 23, 2017 14:32:08 GMT
It was fascinating that at the end of the article that it mentioned that the Russian who had been strong arming Manafort to get his money back, dropped his case when Trump announced his candidacy. I would imagine that is how Manafort was paid... Could be. That 2014 lawsuit by Deripaska in the Cayman Islands came to nothing because it was said they couldn’t find Manafort. Well, that’s a head-scratcher because Manafort was in and out of Ukraine from 2014-2015. If he was hiding, he must have been hiding in plain sight! Equally curious that Deripaska, insofar as having tremendous resources, didn’t have a posse actively searching for Manafort? Was he rich enough that he could shrug off a $100M investment loss? Another puzzle is how Manafort was able to secure massive loans over and above the actual value of his properties, the largest - $16M total - from Federal Savings Bank’s Stephen Calk who’s part of Trump’s Economic Advisory Council. That loan was supposedly almost a quarter of the total shareholder equity of that bank. To one customer. No one in Manafort’s world works for free. Someone had to have paid him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 19:45:22 GMT
If you're appalled at the relationships between Trump transition and Russia, please call:
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