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Post by cakediva on Aug 19, 2014 19:54:07 GMT
This is one of the careers my middle DD is contemplating.
She still has a full year of high school left, and plans to take a year off and work as much as she can to set aside some tuition money.
But we want her to investigate now, so that if she needs to switch some classes around for requirements, she still has time to do so.
I'm sure there are different rules between Canada & the US, and that each agency will have their own regulations as well, but what can you tell me about it?
Is it minimum wage drudgery? Is it commission only? Are there travel benefits? Is it enjoyable?
DD thinks this might be something she'd really like - so I said I'd ask around and see what those who actually do it have for advice.
Thanks!!
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Post by tracylynn on Aug 19, 2014 20:13:27 GMT
I'm gonna be honest from my point of view - I travel. A lot. For both work and pleasure. I never use a travel agent. I book all airfare, hotels, car rentals and cruises (for pleasure) on my own directly with the company I use services from.
I could be totally wrong, but I don't know if I see that as a good industry to go in with it being so easy to book on your own these days.
Hopefully some travel agents will come in with a different point of view. I know there was at least one travel agent at 2Peas, but not sure if she made it over or not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 20:18:11 GMT
Have to agree with the post above me....I think it is a dying breed because of the ability to do so via the 'net. And I am surprised that you would need any higher education to become a travel agent. Now there are some larger firms that do travel for corporations, but I see those as few and far between. She'd probably do better by getting on with one of the airlines if she truly wants to travel.
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Post by sisterbdsq on Aug 19, 2014 20:28:38 GMT
I agree she'll be jumping into a coffin, as far as the industry goes. I also agree to look into working for the airlines if her goal is to travel. If she just wants to help people plan trips there are safari/exotic vacation companies she could look into.
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Post by georgiapea on Aug 19, 2014 20:48:12 GMT
Travel Agents now would be used for planning elaborate vacations it seems to me. I've never used an actual Travel Agent office for anything. All those web sites ARE travel agents but I doubt that's the career goal your DD has in mind.
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Post by Basket1lady on Aug 19, 2014 20:53:30 GMT
I haven't used a travel agent in 20 years. I'm not sure that is the direction to go. But there are plenty of jobs out there for people who like to travel and are flexible with their lives.
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Post by bc2ca on Aug 19, 2014 21:23:43 GMT
My parents and MIL are the only people I know that still use travel agents, so they are around. Back in the day, we had a full-time travel coordinator in our corporate office, but I suspect that job phased out when she retired. There are many jobs in the travel industry, but most are customer service based. I've known a few people that loved working for large, international hotel chains on the HR and management side of things. They did get great travel perks & international work opportunities. If travel perks are one of her motivations, then I would look in this direction. It is relatively inexpensive to fly places compared to the cost of a luxury hotel
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Post by tracylynn on Aug 19, 2014 21:24:48 GMT
Travel Agents now would be used for planning elaborate vacations it seems to me. I've never used an actual Travel Agent office for anything. All those web sites ARE travel agents but I doubt that's the career goal your DD has in mind. Honestly, even that isn't that hard to do on your own. I planned a 21 day vacation through Europe without a travel agent. It's pretty easy to do the research on your own these days and doesn't take long either.
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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Aug 19, 2014 21:31:21 GMT
Travel agents are obsolete. Advise her to do something else.
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Post by gsquaredmom on Aug 19, 2014 21:34:33 GMT
Imo, dying profession. I have a friend who USED to work in it. Once the internet took off, people stopped calling.
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Post by stingfan on Aug 19, 2014 21:38:41 GMT
My parents book all their cruises through a travel agent. Saves them a lot of headache since she deals with all the details.
I used a travel agent when I was traveling to Finland and Russia. She booked us a private tour guide in Russia who was excellent. I probably could have done that on my own, but she already had all the contacts and info, so why do all that research myself? She also worked us through the process of getting a travel visa to Russia. It was just nice to have someone navigate these things for us rather than spending hours figuring it all out ourselves.
I know people still use travel agents for Disney too. I never have though. For that, it's just as easy to do myself.
Anyway, I don't know if it's a dying industry or not but I do know that there's still a place for them.
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Post by lesleyanne on Aug 19, 2014 22:36:14 GMT
What about working for an airline or becoming a flight attendant? My friend works for Westjet and loves it. She'll need a second language (french) and they prefer higher education but it doesn't have to be in travel/tourism.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Aug 19, 2014 22:48:26 GMT
To be successful (or even employable!) as a travel agent you need to have a very specific niche. While the vast majority of time we plan our trips ourselves, we did use an agent that specialized in photo safaris to plan our trips to Africa. I also know a very successful agent who specializes in Italian villas. If you can find a market where cost is NOT the primary driver, and there is a perception (even if it's not reality) of complexity, exclusivity or just plain customer service - you can be successful.
Having said that - if it was my kid, I'd seriously advocate having a back up plan!
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Aug 19, 2014 22:54:23 GMT
I book most of our travel myself in and out of the US, but we did use an agent for both safari trips. There are all sorts of complications when you travel with guns that are best expedited by a professional.
I have a friend who plans and leads tours all over the world. He has a very loyal following of people who travel with him in large part for the personal touch he provides in guiding the tours himself. I imagine trying to build something like that as a newcomer to the field would be extremely difficult though.
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Post by shanniebananie on Aug 19, 2014 22:55:40 GMT
On of the new New Jersey housewives is a broker for private jets. CEOs and VIPs use them to help book private jet travel all over the world. This may be a more modern version of a travel agent.
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Post by mallie on Aug 19, 2014 23:06:15 GMT
I agree with the poster above that it's important to find your niche and then you have to provide exemplary, almost over the top service. I used a travel agent on our last European trip because I wanted some help figuring out how to travel between countries. When I was in the agency waiting to pick up tickets one day, I was paying attention to the conversations around me and all of the agents were working with people for foreign travel who wanted help similar to what we wanted -- figuring out critical details that seemed complex backed up by personal knowledge of the recommendations.
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Post by kimpossible on Aug 19, 2014 23:19:17 GMT
Well, I have a family member that married into a family that owns a travel agency. They specialize in group and cruise packages.
The one sales lady in her office is over 60 and brings in over $1,000,000 a year in sales. She gets 25% of that as a commission.
Not to mention the nearly free trips they get to take when the resorts bring you over to check out their resort so you can sell it to your customers. My family member has been to Australia, Italy, Switerland, Portugal, Spain, etc. and many places in Mexico, Alaska, Hawaii - some of them more than once
I think people don't use travel agencies like they used to. But apparently with group and/or cruise sales it can still be a big business.
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Post by GiantsFan on Aug 19, 2014 23:54:30 GMT
I use a travel agent for cruises and trips to Maui. She coordinates all the details - flights, hotels, transportation, insurance, etc. She is very well traveled and gives great advice to new to us places. All I have to do is tell her when and where I want to go, make the payment when she calls and get to the airport. For weekend or short 3-4 day US trips, we do it ourselves. That said, I agree with the others that it's a dying profession. When my TA retires (she's in her 70's) I will have to do it myself.
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Post by KiwiJo on Aug 20, 2014 0:30:45 GMT
One place that travel agents are still used I think, is for business travel. Probably big corporations may have their own in-house travel experts, but small-medium sized will often use travel agents. But I imagine the agents they use don't need to be well-travelled themselves because they are not going to be recommending places, they are going to be booking for specific needs around conferences etc. So probalby not a lot of scope for free travel.
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Post by joyfromny on Aug 20, 2014 0:49:30 GMT
I am a travel agent and agree it is a dying profession except in the Ultra Luxury Market. Most upscale travelers still want the personal touch and will pay for it.
Most people do book themselves through the internet. I have found they spend quite a bit of time doing so. I have also bailed out alot of clients that booked through the internet and ran into major problems. However I couldn't help them. Had they gone through me I could have.
Anyway, let her give it a shot. She can decide from there.
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Post by colleen on Aug 20, 2014 0:54:13 GMT
I have a cousin that coordinates event type travel (I think the name of his company is Carlson) and he seems to do quite well at it.
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Post by Megan on Aug 20, 2014 1:29:47 GMT
I'm a travel coordinator. I handle all the flights, cars, hotels, etc for a large company. We have both sales reps and executives who need travel so it's a busy day. There are programs that do it - but they aren't smart like a person, so we do it in-house. For me, it's a 24/7 job. Flight got cancelled? They call me. Their room needs to be switched? I get the call ... So it's not glamorous but I genuinely like most of the people I book for so it's not so bad. I walked in to this job with 0 experience, other than booking my own flights, so I'm not sure what extra schooling she'd need - a lot of it is "tricks of the trade" type stuff like being super sweet to hotel reps can get you better rates and rooms, utilizing different search engines to find flights and working with reps from hotel chains to get corporate rates. You can message me if you have questions.
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Post by anniebeth24 on Aug 20, 2014 13:47:58 GMT
I would research universities that offer degrees in hospitality. Their programs are geared toward hotel and restaurant management, as well as travel-related careers. A career advisor in that department would have a good grasp on job opportunities/salaries.
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Post by *christine* on Aug 20, 2014 14:09:38 GMT
DH was a travel agent for over 12 years, and still services his existing clients and takes referrals. He got on with an agency that provided training, as at the time it was pretty specific to certain softwares. He frequently sold over $1m in travel annually, however, the commission percentage varied depending on the vendor he sold (Carnival, Princess, etc, often set the commission rates with agencies based on their sales volume).
In that first job he traveled a lot. Free trips frequently (no spouses allowed). And he made good money. But that started to dwindle as people became more internet savvy and especially after 9/11. He could sell ice to eskimos though so he did well from the sales perspective and then kept the clients coming back with good customer service.
He worked for some very cut throat agencies and bosses and it was all commission based, usually with no benefits offered. One boss was such a crook, he made up new policies all the time to skim more commission from his agents, listened to calls and if they didn't upsell, he'd take the commission. It was a 24/7 job, as a pp mentioned, no matter what time the flight gets cancelled, he'd get a call to work it out. the company he's currently affiliated with is a strictly contract position, and he takes no new business from them, just his own clients and any referrals. He still gets calls at all times of the day or night. He took a call in the middle of the Zac Brown concert over the weekend because it was for a very good client, although the guy's definition of "emergency" was that he wanted to add four more people to his trip next April.
He has another full time job currently, but still works at the travel job about 40 hours a week - down from a hundred hrs/week before he had his other sales job.
He does have friends and former colleagues that work at walk in places and they make a decent living - $40-50k/annually but I don't think those jobs will last forever.
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Post by melanieg on Aug 20, 2014 14:14:38 GMT
Ive been an agent in Canada for 18 years.
If she is truly interested in this, tell her to volunteer at a local agency to shadow them. See if this is what she really wants to do. I recommend she find a specialty to work on and become a pro at it.
If she has any questions, send me a pm.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 14:20:58 GMT
Check my Pea title.
It's a job that requires a LOT of detail work, and you do need to learn the ins and outs, but it's not a degreed career herein the States at least. If you have an organized bent and an eye for detail, agencies themselves will train you. You can get certifications through associations, too. But it's not formal classroom learning from a college level.
Most of it is commission; I did have some colleagues who charged a fee that applied to your final trip if you booked. It was designed to prevent spending 20 hours working on something only to have the traveler say, "Oh, thanks for this!" and then go book it all on line and cut the agent out of her commission. Not that it's cheaper for the traveler to do that necessarily (they might save $20) because commission fees are built into every price a hotel, cruise, Disney, vacation package quotes and if you aren't using an agent, they pocket that money themselves.
In the end, I found the industry to be one big sales game, and since I was more about customer service than upselling, I didn't find it to be the best fit for my skills.
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Post by annabella on Aug 20, 2014 14:23:08 GMT
It's a dying profession. However I've worked for 2 companies that have a firm that book their business travel for them. One had it in house and I would walk down to their office and it's a job where you have no down time, you are booking reservations every minute of your job while keeping up with your voicemails. It's just too hectic.
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