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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 2:22:18 GMT
Has anyone dealt with this?
becca has a 22 month old dd that demands ever second of her time, she feels like her job is to play and entertain her dd every waking minute. Her dd won't go to grandparents / aunts / uncles friends etc. if they go somewhere mom has to hold her and been that isn't always enough. DD throws fits if she doesn't get her way and slaps mom and bangs her head against mom. DD goes to day care during the day when mom and dad are at work but she doesn't socialize or play with other kids. She is good at daycare but very isolated. Becca has realized she has created a monster and wants to try and redirect her now before this gets way too out of control.
Becca finally broke down tonight and says things has to change. She is too exhausted and this is out of control
TIA
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Post by perumbula on Aug 20, 2014 3:42:32 GMT
The first thing that has to stop is the temper tantrums. She can be mad, but she can not hurt people. No hitting. No slamming your head into people. With a child like this, it can actually be easier to stop. When the child acts up, the mom takes away her attention. Baby slaps? mom puts her in down and walks away. If child follows and continues to hit, mom puts baby on chair and walks away. If child won't stay on chair and tantrum continues, child goes to bedroom with door shut. Mom walks away until tantrum is over. It can take a bit depending on how determined the child is, but removing attention is the very best method I've found for toddler tantrums. They don't do logic so you can't explain. the tantrum is for attention, so take it away until they learn that the behavior doesn't get them the desired result.
The socialization aspect is harder. It has to be done slowly, but it can be done. I don't have advice for this part. Because the behavior is so extreme Becca may want to take her to a child psychologist to get some advice and help. Also to have Baby tested for a LD that might be affecting her ability to socialize.
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Post by SabrinaM on Aug 20, 2014 3:52:29 GMT
Has anyone dealt with this? becca has a 22 month old dd that demands ever second of her time, she feels like her job is to play and entertain her dd every waking minute. Her dd won't go to grandparents / aunts / uncles friends etc. if they go somewhere mom has to hold her and been that isn't always enough. DD throws fits if she doesn't get her way and slaps mom and bangs her head against mom. DD goes to day care during the day when mom and dad are at work but she doesn't socialize or play with other kids. She is good at daycare but very isolated. Becca has realized she has created a monster and wants to try and redirect her now before this gets way too out of control. Becca finally broke down tonight and says things has to change. She is too exhausted and this is out of control TIA Well, at 22 months she's still a baby in many ways. Toddlers this age still parallel play quitea bit so I wouldn't worry too much about the ssocialization at this point. A great deal of social development occurs between age 2 & 3 so I'd give it time. If baby is spending a great deal of time away from Mom/Dad I can totally understand not wanting to spend even more time away from Mom with a babysitter/grandparents etc. So, considering baby already spends the majority of her time away from Mom, I wouldn't call her "too attached." She's still a baby so acting out is how she communicates. I'm not saying tolerate the fits, but consider baby needs more time with Mom/Dad, not less.
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Post by LeaP on Aug 20, 2014 5:11:32 GMT
I think that kind of attachment to mommy is pretty typical for that age. Just be consistent with the reactions to the behaviors.
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Post by bc2ca on Aug 20, 2014 5:29:45 GMT
I'll admit I was surprised to read the toddler is in daycare, I wasn't expecting that based on the title of the thread and do not think the toddler is too attached. A 22 month old is young to be entertaining herself and if she is used to mom's undivided attention when mom is around, she will demand it.
Honestly, it sounds like she is tired & cranky at the end of the day and showing it, so I would look at getting her to bed earlier and stick to the same schedule on the weekend as they have during the week. Some kids need to come home from daycare, eat, bath & go to bed. Do they have to wake her up in the morning? If the answer is yes, she is not getting enough sleep.
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Post by ptamom on Aug 20, 2014 6:14:30 GMT
" DD throws fits if she doesn't get her way and slaps mom and bangs her head against mom."
This needs to be shut down immediately. DD needs to be isolated safely as soon as she acts aggressively against mom or anyone else. Firmly told "No", then put in a time out, where she doesn't get any attention, cannot harm others, yet is still safely supervised. They need to set aside a space with baby gates or some other restrictions. Harming mommy has to have the consequence of no attention until the tantrum is over.
Years ago, my then 16 month old popped up from the ground, crashing his head into my jaw as I was leaning over, unintentionally, just jumping. He hit me at a vulnerable spot and gave me severe TMJ for over a year. I ate blender food and applesauce and yogurt. Skulls are wicked hard, and can cause a lot of damage.
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Post by AussieMeg on Aug 20, 2014 7:01:03 GMT
If baby is spending a great deal of time away from Mom/Dad I can totally understand not wanting to spend even more time away from Mom with a babysitter/grandparents etc. So, considering baby already spends the majority of her time away from Mom, I wouldn't call her "too attached." She's still a baby so acting out is how she communicates. I'm not saying tolerate the fits, but consider baby needs more time with Mom/Dad, not less. That was my first thought too. She is already away from her mother most of the day, the poor little thing probably just wants to make sure her mommy doesn't disappear again. Having said that, my DD was in full time day care at that age (actually from the age of 8 months). She didn't react that way at all when we were home, and was fine to go to grandparents and aunts etc. I wouldn't worry too much about the socialization, that will come in time. From what I saw at day care, it tended to be the kids who had the hardest time with separation that took the longest time to start socializing, but they all got there eventually. I agree with others that Becca needs to put a stop to the tantrums as quickly as possible.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 12:47:16 GMT
Great information. Thank you.
Just an FYI dd has been very attached since the beginning. Mom went back to work when dd was 15 months old mom eased into FT and has been FT about 3 month.
Consistency is the key word
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Post by SabrinaM on Aug 20, 2014 12:55:25 GMT
I wouldn't say she created a monster. My third child was and is very mom-focused. It was really hard and exhausting when she was little. She's 7 now and it's still a challenge. If she had been my first child, I know I would have been convinced I made her this way. As she's my third, I know she is just sensitive and needs me there. She is now diagnosed with a sensory sensitivity and anxiety. I'm glad I never got too serious with trying to "train" it out of her. She is who she is. This is my youngest as well! The sun rises and sets over me. She's has lots of friends, is very bright and loves school and her classmates. I am just very mindful about how anxious she gets about new things and we talk it through. She's becoming more confident as she gets older but is still quite attached to me. My oldest... total opposite!
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Aug 20, 2014 13:07:51 GMT
At 22 months children don't play with each other parallel play is more common at that development stage.
If mom &dad work then I guess I wouldn't find it abnormal for some children to have separation anxiety and cling to mom.
I think creating a monster is a tad bit dramatic.
Maybe the temper tantrums are a way of expressing herself when she doesn't have the ability to communicate in any other way. Pretty normal but don't feed it. Let her figure out how to self comfort herself. We had a soft toy dog - we called it a lovey.
All moms are exhausted with little ones.
All quite normal - maybe mom can leave the little one with grandma for a day to get a break.
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Post by alibama on Aug 20, 2014 13:09:49 GMT
" DD throws fits if she doesn't get her way and slaps mom and bangs her head against mom." This needs to be shut down immediately. DD needs to be isolated safely as soon as she acts aggressively against mom or anyone else. Firmly told "No", then put in a time out, where she doesn't get any attention, cannot harm others, yet is still safely supervised. They need to set aside a space with baby gates or some other restrictions. Harming mommy has to have the consequence of no attention until the tantrum is over. Years ago, my then 16 month old popped up from the ground, crashing his head into my jaw as I was leaning over, unintentionally, just jumping. He hit me at a vulnerable spot and gave me severe TMJ for over a year. I ate blender food and applesauce and yogurt. Skulls are wicked hard, and can cause a lot of damage.
Oh my I just wanted to say that must have been a terrible time for you. I hope you have recovered from it now!
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Post by melanell on Aug 20, 2014 13:15:20 GMT
When ours tried hitting in frustration, we told them "You do not hit". or "No hitting." or just "No!" depending on their age, and if it continued, we put them in their crib, but stayed in the room, and reminded them that hitting wasn't okay. We did it every time. (During the baby/toddler years. When they were older and could rationalize more, we did different things for the one who had a hitting phase.) It was annoying, but they did get the message. One got it very quickly. One took a lot more time. I got used to sitting in the room with that one.
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Post by scrappinmama on Aug 20, 2014 13:29:23 GMT
I was very attached to my mom, so this is always a topic that hits close to home. Although, I wasn't attached to the point of throwing a tantrum.
I am in the nursery at my church on Sundays, so I can give some advice. First, the tantrums need to stop. Do not give in to the tantrums. I would start out by going to grandma's or someone else's house, and start having them play with dd. If she throws a fit, put her in a time out. Gradually, she will start to be more cooperative.
Now, she may still have separation anxiety if mom tries to leave her with someone. If that's the case, then try baby steps. We let kids cry in the nursery for 15 minutes before we call a parent. Leave her with someone for a quick trip to the store. Then keep extending the time that you leave her. Before you know it, you can leave her for a couple of hours.
But the tantrums need to stop now. And don't give in to the tantrums.
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Post by shanni on Aug 20, 2014 13:46:01 GMT
When my youngest dd was that age, she would barely go to dad, let alone grandma/friends/aunts. She just HATED being around other people. She would cry when we pulled into grandma's driveway and cling to me the entire time we were there. Drove me batty! And poor MIL was so sad, she just loves her grandbabies! It was a phase, and by the time she was 3 1/2 she loved grandma! I just tried to be calm and reassuring about family members and not make a big deal out of it. If dd saw that I (or the family members) were getting stressed, that just reinforced to her that there was something to be stressed about.
As far as the temper tantrums go, I think that's pretty typical two year old behavior as well. They don't call them the terrible twos for nothing! That doesn't mean that the behavior shouldn't be corrected. When she tries to bang her head, put her down and firmly say no, that hurts mommy. If she tries to hit, firmly but gently grab her hand and say no hitting. When she starts throwing a tantrum, put her down in a safe place and walk away, telling her that when she can settle down she can come out.
Above all, try not to let your dd feel like she has created a monster. There is enough guilt in motherhood without feeling it coming from our own mothers as well. (Not saying you are doing this at all, I just remember every time dd would throw a fit in front of my mom I like I was a horrible mother. My mom never said anything, but that's how I felt. One of the best compliments I ever received from my mom is when she told me I was doing a great job with my kids.) Let dd know that she is in a really tough stage with her little one and that this too shall pass.
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Post by elaine on Aug 20, 2014 14:11:03 GMT
Great information. Thank you. Just an FYI dd has been very attached since the beginning. Mom went back to work when dd was 15 months old mom eased into FT and has been FT about 3 month. Consistency is the key word 3 months to a 22 month old is a significant portion of her life - the equivalent of years to you and me. There is nothing abnormal about a baby being very attached to her mother. The aggression needs to be dealt with, so that she can vent her frustration in a more appropriate manner, although tantrums are normal at this age. She needs to NOT hit others. I think, given that the girl is so young and in daycare full-time, mom (and maybe you) need to take a look at her/your expectations for the daughter's behavior. They seem to be more appropriate for a 5 year old than a child who isn't even 2 yet. She spends more awake time away from her mother than with her, it is normal for her to be more clingy for those precious moments she has her favorite person with her. Parallel play is also normal at her age - nothing wrong with it. Mom is tired because she is working full-time in addition to being a mom - it isn't the daughter who is causing the fatigue, although she may add to it. It is hard to work full-time outside the house and be a parent, regardless the age of the kids. That the toddler is very attached to mom doesn't mean she is a "monster," she sounds like a normal toddler who is in daycare full-time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 14:26:53 GMT
Oh that's hard. We have twin boys and my mom was a huge help with them, about once a week I would bring them to her place for the afternoon so I could catch up at home a little, or just get out.
One day she called me panicked because one of them had started screaming shortly after I left and it had gone on for at least 30 minutes. She had checked everything, his diaper, possible cuts and anything else. So I raced over there not knowing what was wrong with my baby. I held him and he stopped screaming instantly and fell asleep in my arms. That level of attachment was new to both of us, especially at such a young age, my mom was beside herself that this child wouldn't stop screaming, not crying, screaming.
We tried a few more times over the next few months, and it always resulted in him screaming. Everything I had read, said it would go away on its own, and it did. But it was a tough time for all of us involved.
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