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Post by red88 on Aug 20, 2014 16:59:44 GMT
I feel really bad. I don't want to take your thread away. I understand the need to vent. I could delete my post, but that would leave pea's wondering. I'm not sure why I posted. I guess I saw someone who feels the same. It's like a double edged sword, I feel good saying what I feel, but I have so much anxiety over saying it. I don't like attention. Like peppermintpatty, I'm dealing with it. I just felt a bit connected to her. I certainly don't want to un-validate her post with my issues. Thank you for the kind words. This really is a great place to come for support. For all those that are working through this disease, I admire you.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Aug 20, 2014 17:19:37 GMT
Ariel - you are NOT hijacking my thread. Others have vented and that is simply what I was doing. Feeling connected is a good feeling. It makes you feel like you are not alone and you are not. I am ashamed at what I tried to do. For me it was pills. It does feel like a weight is lifted off your shoulders and that is why I go through so much therapy because I know it will be better at the end but the process is scary and it hurts.
You did not un-validate my post at all.
I admire you for saying what you did!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 18:15:04 GMT
I am so sorry for your losses and I'm truly glad that you are getting help. There's absolutely NOTHING to be ashamed about. I too struggle from depression and while I didn't actually attempt suicide, I did pick out the tree I planned to crash my car into. I too found therapy and it's changed my life.
I am a Christian as well and I know what you mean about not wanting to come off as a holy roller and that some people just don't get it. But that is you and part of your life and you have no reason to hide it or feel ashamed.
I didn't share any of my struggles with my family. They just wouldn't understand...I think they would listen, but they wouldn't "get it". They are the type of people who ignore the pink elephant in the room. I'm the nutball who's screaming "PINK ELEPHANT". My advice is to find a friend or two that you can relate to that is able to understand and truly listen. And if you don't have anyone, I'd pray and ask God to send you the person you can vent to. Instead of wishing that I could lean on my family (who is there for me in many other ways), I focus on the fact that I have two amazing friends that I can talk to.
My husband doesn't really understand depression and I've never really fully gone into the struggles I had in the past. I just know that he loves me, he would be there for me if the chips were down and that the support I need on depression doesn't need to come from him. He can't be my everything. No one can...so we get bits and pieces from others.
I'll be praying for you.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Aug 20, 2014 18:21:24 GMT
Carblover- thank you. I understand about the tree. More than you know, more than you know I like the pink elephant reference! I chuckled at that. Thank you for the reminder to pray about it and to remember that no one can be everything in my life.
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Post by ljsmom on Aug 20, 2014 18:40:28 GMT
I strongly encourage you to allow your faith to be the basis for support and be unapologetic about that. If you can't open up to the family pray for a couple of women to come into your life that will be a support system. I meet once a week during the school year with a group of 3 other women. We are brutally honest and open. it is scary at first but you have to trust each other. It is not all "Sunshine and Psalms". Meaning- we "do life" together. We vent, we cry, we celebrate victories, we help the others through struggles. I will be honest that some weeks it is the last thing I want to do- it seems like it is just something else I HAVE to do- but once there even if I am honest with them all saying I did not want to come- I am blessed by my friends and normally there is some word, some perspective, that I have that helps someone else in their life too. I'm a mess. I battle depression, I was sexually assaulted as a child (non-relative), I come from this "perfect" family that everyone loves but I feel like I don't deserve it. These beautiful "sisters" of mine help me realize I do
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Aug 20, 2014 18:54:24 GMT
So very sorry for your losses.
I do not suffer from depression but those closest to me do. We've always been private about it and discussed it in our home because there is such a stigma. Even though it is no different than someone who has diabetes or another physical ailment where no judgment is attached.
I hope working with the therapist will bring you to a place of peace.
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Aug 20, 2014 19:30:13 GMT
I can understand some of what you are talking about when you say you can't really be yourself sometimes. I feel that way a lot for reasons very different from yours. I have no great words of advice or anything except to say that I will keep you in my prayers.
To all that suffer from depression here THANK YOU for sharing your stories, all the good the bad and the ugly. I really does help me to empathize and deal with those IRL that are suffering with it. I have learned so much from you all here.
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Post by ceepea on Aug 20, 2014 20:04:49 GMT
I am so happy that people feel safe enough here to share their deepest secrets. We are all here for each other. I wish all of you peace.
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Post by birukitty on Aug 20, 2014 20:13:08 GMT
I'm so sorry Peppermint Patty for what you are going through and for all of the Peas who suffer from depression. I myself fought a 10 year battle with what was diagnosed as "treatment resistant depression" so I know a little bit about how you are feeling. I'm in remission now, and feeling much healthier and happier. May I please offer you some advice from what I have learned?
1. Depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain. It has nothing to do with you-how strong, or weak you are. It can be triggered by an event or not. It also is hereditary. When it is triggered by an event therapy is very helpful for treatment along with medication. When it is not triggered by an event medication itself usually works. The key is medication is needed to re balance the chemicals in the brain. The best doctor to see for the medication is a psychiatrist. They have the best training regarding the medication-and it's frustrating and difficult as hell because sometimes it takes 4-6 weeks to feel a change, and sometimes one will work like magic for a few months and then all of a sudden stop working. But please don't decide not to try medication-it can help enormously. You have to re balance those chemicals.
2. Faith does help, if that is something that works for you. It did for me.
3. Try not to "negative talk" to yourself-it doesn't help, it only hurts. You have a disease, just like someone has cancer. With time and treatment it will get better. It's difficult because it's a mental illness and there's such a stigma about those in this country. Try not to let that get to you. You have worth, talent, beauty just like before. You WILL get better. It just takes time. Hang in there.
Debbie in MD.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 20:37:05 GMT
Does anyone else have to keep their pain private from family members? It is the same about my faith. After my attempt, I became a Christian and my family has accepted it but they still look at me funny when I talk about church and Christianity. These are things that define who I am and I own them but I hate having to hide behind a facade and pretend that I am fine. Part of my pain is the fact that I am working through some very tough stuff and instead of shoving it down, I am dealing with it, line by line. People have told me they admire me and wish they could deal with their past like me but the people that I really need to hear this from have no idea. It hurts. I'm not a good faker, so I try to avoid family. My 5 year old has low functioning Autism. It's not easy going anywhere, but my older kids usually want to go to events. I end up following him around the whole time, it's pointless to be there because I don't have a chance to chat with family. So, I usually ask a someone if they can bring the older kids home or when they will be done so I can pick them up. It's pointless to even try to go and do things. My kids went to the family reunion without me. Everyone in my family and my dh's is active in the LDS church. Yes, I feel like an outcast. Much is demanded when you're a member. So they usually talk about church callings, missions, and the latest news. I try to discuss books, movies, current events, or anything not church related and I feel like I get blank stares. I also think they are scared to mention or ask why I don't attend because they know I will be honest and don't want to hear my answers. So, yes I understand. I figure there's no point in letting people know. The last person I did tell ended up having issues of her own.
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Post by christine58 on Aug 20, 2014 21:57:42 GMT
peppermintpatty...I think as I read these responses, you've found some "friends" here to communicate with. I admire the strength that you and others have to open yourselves up here!! I hope that you all can reach out to each other and support each other even if it's just here. You never know though---some of you might live near each other...
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Post by hollymolly on Aug 20, 2014 22:29:50 GMT
I'm a Depression Pea as well. I have a similar story to the tree story. I wasn't suicidal, but I felt like I needed a break from my life. So every day on the way home from work, I would try to find a good place to wreck my car, bad enough to put me in the hospital for a while, but not bad enough to kill me. What saved me was how much I loved my car. Then a complete nervous breakdown followed by really good therapy. My family knows, but not all of them are comfortable with it. I'm pretty open and honest about it. My dad has it too, but I have no idea how long ago he was diagnosed. My mom didn't tell me he was on medication until I started taking something when I was 30. Almost 15 years later and she is just now opening up to me about some of what he goes through. My dad has never talked to me about it. We both cry easily, and I really cry at the drop of a hat, so I think he's afraid of having an emotionally honest conversation. And I'm ok with that. He has my mom, and she is awesome for him. peppermintpatty, thank you for starting this. If you need some one-on-one conversation, message me. red88, I understand not wanting attention, that is so me. But please please know that those thoughts in your head right now are just your depression telling you lies. Don't believe them.
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Post by Legacy Girl on Aug 20, 2014 22:42:59 GMT
I would encourage you to work with your therapist to come to a place where you can honestly and freely be yourself without having to hide who you are from those who love you. It takes a lot of energy to be someone you're not. And while it's tempting to "protect" others (and ourselves) from who we really are for fear of their reactions, the responsibility of acceptance really rests with them. Sending peaceful healing prayers your way. Hope you find some resolution soon!
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Post by christaw on Aug 20, 2014 23:16:45 GMT
Hugs and sorry you are going through such a rough time. We are always here to listen and vent.
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Post by mikklynn on Aug 21, 2014 0:26:50 GMT
Ariel, your brother would not want you to feel that way. Depression is so vicious...please don't listen when it tells you that you are less valuable than anyone else. NOT true! I hope you will reach out for help. You deserve it, I believe it with all my heart.
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Post by scrappintoee on Aug 21, 2014 0:51:28 GMT
((( HUGS ))) to you, Peppemint Patty, and (( HUGS )) to everyone else who shared their struggles.!!!! I'm very cautious about sharing anything personal on any websites, but I will go ahead and tell you that I HAVE been there, and I can only describe my depression as a horrrrrible "dark cloud" that followed me....The last time, it was SO, SO horrible, that I am still SO thankful I got out of it...(counseling, and even though I was resisting it----medication!!!!!) I FINALLY accepted that for me, medication is something I HAVE to have---
DH is empathetic and supportive, as are my family and close friends I share it with.....but my honest feeling is that people who've never been in that dark / HORRIBLE abyss sometimes have a difficult time understanding. I reallly appreciate their support and attempts to understand, but I know it frightens some people, and I understand that, too--- I'd probably be frightened of the things depression causes if I'd never been through it, too.....
I pray that you and everrrryone else will get the help you need and DESERVE!!! ((( hugs )))
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Post by scrapmaven on Aug 21, 2014 3:42:46 GMT
Part of the theraputic process will be learning to discern who will give you unconditional support and who will exploit you or take on your feelings as their own. No one is allowed to diminish your pain. Oddly enough, suicidal thoughts and attempts can be the prompt for finally seeking therapy and learning to enjoy life. 3 years of therapy after such a long history of painful things is such a tiny amount of time. Therapy takes a lot of patience and willingness to learn that some things you'd always thought to be true were in fact, lies. When the people closest to us hurt us it leaves a scar on our souls. If you cannot talk about this with your family that is ok. Your therapist will help you to grieve the loss of the family members you wish you had and show you how to find that unconditional love and support from dear friends and support professionals. Often times in a dysfunctional family our pain is an embarrassment to our family members and we learn to take on that shame and guilt. We learn to apologize for being hurt. You are on a journey to find your true self and to learn how lovable and amazing you truly are. You will face painful losses and celebrate joyous new information. Be kind to yourself. Be patient with yourself and above all, remember that you are an amazing, lovable and wonderful woman. Depression is not the end all be all. There's way more great stuff out there for you. You deserve joy and you deserve all things good.
Disclaimer: I'm not a therapist, just someone who really gets it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 4:19:34 GMT
Hang in there, Pea-sister. Keep up with your therapy and hold your head high. I think you are a true warrior. You go girl! It's tough stuff you're doing and not for the faint of heart. Be proud of yourself! You've already proven you're strong! {{{hugs}}}
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 8:06:07 GMT
Peppermint Patty remember you are a warrior. You can fight this. I fight it every single day of my life. It has almost taken my life a few times. But I will will. Someone you have to win. It isn't easy. You have to fight it. Medication works. Therapy works. Positive thinking...even when you are feeling your worst and every breath seems to take effort to take just think I am a survivor warrior. I will get through this. Fight!
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Post by peppermintpatty on Aug 21, 2014 11:44:54 GMT
Thank you all. I didn't want to read and not respond but after about 3, I don't really get online . I have been in therapy for a long time and my family does know this. I am a huge proponent of it and being honest with the therapist. I was also on medication after my last miscarriage. I went to a grief and loss group for women who have lost babies. I know it takes time. To everyone who has felt brave enough to share your stories with me and everyone else, kudos to you! It takes guts and I know that so many people struggle with it and so many more don't really understand what it is like to feel this way and just know that we can't stop if we want. I do have friends who are willing to help and listen. I have learned that no one person can solve everything for you. I learned that a long time ago and while my friends are there for me, I have to be aware that everyone has issues, not just me and they also need love and support. They are not responsible for me, I am. My faith showed me that we are all flawed and have issues. Not everyone shows them. I have always admired myself for being able to talk about my problems and want to work through them. My therapist told me that I wouldn't be normal if I didn't want to just stop and go back to the way I was, it was easier. Change is hard, really hard and seeing yourself for all your faults, the faults of others and what you have done or had done to you in the past is not easy. I know where I was and I know where I am now. I am not where I want to be but I am getting there. Thank you all.
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Post by shevy on Aug 21, 2014 13:10:21 GMT
No one is allowed to diminish your pain. This sentence is so powerful to anyone with any mental health issues. I too am thanking everyone for sharing. A big part of my issue that I feel sometimes like I am the only one who is going through this; like no one can relate to me. It's helpful to be reminded that there are others out there who are going through similar things and all I have to do is reach out and ask.
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Post by julieb on Aug 21, 2014 18:08:02 GMT
My mom has suffered from depression for the last 27 years. When she was first diagnosed my Dad kept everything from me and my siblings. My Dad had a successful business and they were traveling, etc. At the time depression was hush, hush and we couldn't understand "what" she had to be depressed about. I knew nothing about chemical imbalance, etc.
I really wish my Dad would have shared more with us so we could be more supportive and learned more about the disease.
Don't give up on trying to find what helps you. My Mom has been relatively healthy since her initial 6 months of treatment.
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