zella
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Post by zella on Apr 4, 2017 21:27:58 GMT
Hi, zella. I missed your other post, but I am sorry you are hurting over something you loved. We had a friend years ago who managed a local community theater, and OMG the drama (offstage) was unending! So many broken relationships. I'm sorry that has happened to you. You talked about fearing the future...I do, too. And obsessing about the present, I'm not sure I do that too much, but I do need my anxiety meds from time to time so maybe I do. LOL. Being present (trying to, anyway) in each moment as it passes helps me sometimes. Yoga is good for centering yourself. I don't know if that is something you can do physically, but a DVD or a class might be worth looking into if you can. Do you like to embroider or cross-stitch? I find that meditative, almost. It also helps you be in the present moment. And I listen to funny shows or movies while I stitch, which I really depend on to help my mood. Scrapbooking, I find, isn't helpful for me when I'm feeling bad and hopeless about my life. Some people find the opposite, I know. But if you're a former scrapbooker and have lots of stuff cardmaking can be satisfying. I like to have a stash for people at church or family/friends. Color and texture and pattern have their own therapeutic qualities. You don't have to respond, I know lots of people are talking to you right now! I didn't mean to toss a lot of advice at you, because I know how hard it is to cope when you are barely hanging on, but I wanted to share a few things that help me sometimes. I wish we could sit and stitch and talk together, wouldn't that be fun? That would be fun. I don't embroider or cross stitch. Partly because I don't have the patience for it, partly because I suck at it, and partly because it makes my hands hurt. I did do crewel embroidery for a while when I was young. I've tried knitting and crocheting again recently, but have the same problems. I don't notice that my finger joints are sore most of the time, but I do when doing these crafts. The only thing I can knit is a scarf, lol! And I can crochet squares for an afghan, and still hope to do that at some point as I have all this lovely alpaca yarn. Mind you, my squares tend to be all different sizes. I'm just not talented at any of these things. I wish I could paint but I have no abilities in that area either. The theater community here is pretty small, and most people know everyone else. So opportunities are very limited, since many directors cast the same people over and over, and the chance of another group letting me direct is slim. I can't produce my own plays because my organizational skills are virtually non-existent, and again my health makes it hard. I wish there was something that I was good at, that I could do alone, and that I felt passionate about. Sadly there isn't.
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Post by scrappyesq on Apr 4, 2017 21:29:34 GMT
We're all here to support you.
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Post by CarolinaGirl71 on Apr 4, 2017 21:45:11 GMT
I'm so humiliated. Why can't I do anything right? In the long run, you may end up being right and they may end up being wrong! As long as you do what you believe is the right thing, there is no need to be humiliated (I know it's easier said than done).Stay true to yourself and do the right thing. I'm so sorry you were let down by a friend. Sometimes people protect themselves at the expense of others. That doesn't mean it's right , but it shows you who they really are, that they don't deserve your trust in the future. Hoping something good happens for you soon! Glad you came here to chat when you needed someone to talk to - please do that anytime you need to!
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Post by missmeegz127 on Apr 4, 2017 21:57:42 GMT
Hi Zella, I'm so sorry your feeling the way you do. I totally understand your feelings because I've said the same thing on more then one occasion. I know it's hard but try not to let this get you too down. You have a strong passion for Theater and that's amazing! I'm at work right now but I'll come back later tonight..I'm great at listening and talking if you want too.
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Post by femalebusiness on Apr 4, 2017 22:03:02 GMT
Ah Zella, that sucks. I'm sorry your friends didn't have the balls to talk over any issues they were having with how you handled things. Voting you out with no discussion was spineless. When totally shitty things happen to me I always try to hold the thought that in five or ten years it won't even be a blip on my radar. That doesn't always help but it is always true. I hope this particular situation brings new opportunities.
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Post by not2peased on Apr 4, 2017 22:21:29 GMT
I am sorry that you have lost something so important to you. Rather than assume these folks don't like you, or you don't do anything right, and other, self defeating thoughts,maybe it's better to assume that they had a very different vision for the group than you did, and they felt strongly that it was detrimental to the efficient functioning of the board, and asked you to step down. it doesn't mean you were wrong for the way you felt about things, and doesn't mean anyone was trying intentionally to hurt you or that they were jerks.
no one has to be right or wrong here-it happened, and while it does hurt a lot, maybe it wasn't an intentional wounding or consequence for you being "wrong"
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Post by christine58 on Apr 4, 2017 22:29:24 GMT
I still miss my sister every single day. I know there will come a time when a day passes and I don't think of her, but it hasn't happened yet. The hardest part is not being able to call and talk to her on days like this. And not being able to bitch about mum with her, lol! I don't think that day will come....I still think of my niece every day. She died in 1988 So zella Those theatre people are asswipes! You are amazing! Tell us more about how your new treatments are working. You mentioned it the other day.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 22:33:29 GMT
That sucks. I'm sorry that happened and that your "best" friend didn't speak with you beforehand. Time to wash your hands clean of those people. Could you do something else to keep yourself busy and mind off of things for a bit? Perhaps volunteer somewhere? The problem is that I can't commit to a certain schedule because I never know when I'm going to be too ill to leave the house. Maybe in a month or two I can. But I have no idea what to do as far as volunteering. No clue at all. I don't believe in myself, don't think I have anything to offer. And I have pretty crippling social anxiety too, just to make things even more challenging. There are things you can do at your leisure and from home. Just to give you an example, you can make cards for a variety of charities. Here are two: www.cardsforhospitalizedkids.com/make-cards.htmlwww.cardcareconnection.com/makecards.aspxIf you like to knit, you can knit scarves for donation: opgrat.wordpress.com/2014/01/17/scarves-for-troops/Start out with baby steps and set small goals. Go to the library and borrow a book or DVD. Go to the animal shelter and drop off things they may need (towels, blankets, etc.) Bake or buy some cookies for your local police station. You have a lot to offer zella and there are people out there who would appreciate your friendship and companionship.
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Post by gar on Apr 4, 2017 22:36:15 GMT
Thinking of you zella ((hugs))
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Post by needmysanity on Apr 4, 2017 22:46:10 GMT
Well, we like you! And you haven't alienated any of us, so no worries about being like your mom here! Gotranch - I have to disagree with you about Once. I saw it a couple of years ago in my town's Broadway Series and didn't like it at all. But I'm getting pretty excited because they've just announced that Hamilton will be coming to my town for the 2018-2019 season! Thank you so much! I bet the Hamilton tickets sell out in minutes. One of my step daughters is going to see Hamilton in Chicago in a few weeks. She's very excited. I'm really sorry you are struggling right now. I didn't read your thread about being kicked off the board but I can tell from all your comments on this thread that it's something you are very passionate about. I hope you are able to get up, dust your self off and find a new direction for your life. Maybe a community theater or something smaller?
PS: I'm seeing Hamilton in July in San Francisco. I'm so stinking excited! Our community theater just did "Into the Heights" and it was well done.
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Post by georgiapea on Apr 4, 2017 23:52:03 GMT
Zella, I'm not good at this, I don't have the social skills go say the right thing when people are hurting so I mostly go silently on. But you are always so open and honest about your life so now I want to offer what has helped me with my own issues.
Glass. I discovered a few years ago that the average person can use glass to make our own beautiful creations. It comes in every color and mixture of colors you can imagine. Its amazingly easy to cut and then you get to lay it together however you wish or follow instructions for predesigned items.
Then comes the firing when your creation basically melts all those pieces into a solid piece. The thrill of opening the kiln is amazing. I like making flat things but a second firing with a mold will turn your piece into a bowl.
Zella, if this interests you - or any other readers - Google fused glass or glass fusing. Delphi is a sales outlet to check prices. There are usually local classes available where one can learn with others.
Ok, I've babbled long enough.
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Post by ntsf on Apr 4, 2017 23:58:30 GMT
hey.. I was kicked out of a book club.. after attending for 4 yrs. at least my best friend left with me. but I miss it. and don't know how to really find another that suits me. I feel your pain. I am just sending hugs and hugs. happy the sun is out some more.
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Post by Dixie Lou on Apr 5, 2017 0:02:16 GMT
I understand your sadness. Please keep posting!
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Post by 3dogmom on Apr 5, 2017 0:16:23 GMT
I'm a lurker and rarely post. I just want to say that depression is a monster that colors the way we see and feel. There are many of us who understand this even though we can't make it better. Just know that we understand.
I hope you find that new hobby you're looking for. My DH started music lessons a couple of months ago and had to give it up due to health issues. Here's hoping you find your activity that you can physically enjoy.
I'm glad you're here. Hang in there.
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Post by *sprout* on Apr 5, 2017 1:01:51 GMT
Hi, Zella! I want to begin by giving you some big (((hugs))) You are so strong, even if you don't feel like it right now.
I haven't read the theater thread, but I can relate to your feelings. After becoming a Girl Scout Leader a few years ago, I quickly became the service unit director (in charge of the other area troops). At first, I had a co-director, but she quit fairly quickly leaving me to figure it out on my own. I did a pretty good job. Then, my small service unit merged with the bigger service unit this summer. I was the co-director of that unit, and planned on taking over when the current service unit director stepped down.
Fast forward to this February when I was called into Council. The person at Council that I worked with, and often did not see eye to eye with, told me how I was not a good fit as service unit director. How I was not a team player. She told me my services were no longer needed. For the first time ever, I was fired. From a volunteer position.
It stung. It was embarrassing. I can relate to your feelings. (((hugs)))
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Post by beaglemom on Apr 5, 2017 1:14:36 GMT
Hugs!! I have to say I'm so glad to see your post. I had just been thinking that I hadn't seen a post from you in a while and was wondering how you are doing. I'm sorry you are hurt! I haven't read the other thread, but I have followed your journey since you first posted about your sister. I think of you often and want you to know you are valued and there are people all over peadom that care about you and are rooting for you!
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Post by scrappintoee on Apr 5, 2017 1:32:47 GMT
Oh Zella, I'm soo, so sorry for all of this !!!!! I've been praying for you! Could you possibly have a phone session with your counselor? ((( hugs )))
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Post by rodeomom on Apr 5, 2017 1:45:27 GMT
Zella, I'm sending you {{{{{hugs}}}}
Are you interested in genealogy? If so there are lots of peas who can help you get started.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Apr 5, 2017 1:50:57 GMT
Zella, I don't often have the right words of encouragement to give but I do wholeheartedly understand. Depression has me right now and I'm struggling too. I have this issue that keeps going round and round in my head right now and I cannot shake it off. Nothing is making me feel better right now so I completely understand. Hugs to you. I just keep thinking it will get better. It will eventually pass. I will work it out in my head.
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Post by GiantsFan on Apr 5, 2017 2:10:32 GMT
I just wanted to pop in and say Hi zella I have no experience with the theater, but I think your friends are pretty shitty for voting you out. When I'm feeling down I like to walk by myself with only the noises of nature to soothe me. I just love being outdoors. I don't know how you feel about pets, but you could volunteer at your local animal shelter. Hang in there. We are here for you.
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Post by scrapmaven on Apr 5, 2017 2:36:36 GMT
Zella, theater people tend to be flakey. I am a professionally trained actress and singer and I can tell you from lots of experience that you can't count on anything in the theater. It's a day ending in Y, so they will cut you off. Please don't let this take you down the rabbit hole. You have lots of support and we're here to tell you that you are valuable and worthy.
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Post by scrapdabbler on Apr 5, 2017 2:42:10 GMT
Hi! Your post is hours old so I hope you have found some peace since then.
Have you ever considered art journaling? I have found some really great groups on FB and everyone is so inspiring, we make art and do some journaling! If I even spend 5 minutes here and there doing it, it brings me light and joy. And instead of dwelling on some things that bring me down, I instead focus on how I will create a next page, or trying a technique, etc.
I too like the idea of writing your own story.
I know I was recently absolutely devastated over something so minor. Which is SO unlike me, but my feelings were hurt and I was surprised because it really takes a whole lot to hurt my feelings. So I really feel for you because obviously this was a real big deal for you. And it sucks to be in that place of feeling so down. My heart is broken for you that you are going through this and that people can be assholes sometimes.
P.S. I am SURE you do a lot of RIGHT things!! Focus on those!
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zella
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Post by zella on Apr 5, 2017 2:53:11 GMT
Well there's always the fart thread, if you're looking for a few laughs.... Do you (still) scrapbook? I've kind of moved away from scrapbooking into card-making. Cards don't take as long to make as a scrapbook page. I can make a card in 10-15 minutes and feel that I've accomplished something. I dream of getting back into scrapbooking but that will probably have to wait until I retire. You mentioned living in Paris. I'd love to hear about your experiences there. I spent a semester in Dijon when I was in college many many many years ago. We all had Eurail (sp?) passes so we could get on the trains whenever and it was 2 hours by train to Paris. So we'd often go to Paris for the day on a weekend. I have to admit it was mainly to go to McDonalds or Burger King to get an American hamburger! My cards usually suck. Sometimes I'll use a template, and those ones are usually better. I lived outside of Paris in a small village called Mareil-Marly. It is west of the city proper. We could see the Eiffel tower from our bedroom! My sister and I attended the English School of Paris (now called the British School of Paris) for one year (we only lived there about 14 or 15 months. The school was an old, delapitated chateu on the banks of the Seine. There was a newer building on site as well as the chateau. I enjoyed school for the first time ever. It was a very unusual school situation. Only about half the students were British. The rest were from all over the world. In my year we had people from Germany, Japan, USA, India, Sierra Leone, South Africa and a bunch of others. We used to go into Paris on the weekend quite often. We also had two holidays in the Alps (Chamonix) and one in the south of France. I have tons of good memories from our time there. Mum taught us to dress nicely when we were going into the city. Then, when we needed to use a toilet, she'd walk us into a swanky hotel lobby to use theirs. It was way better than trying to use the squatty, hole in the floor toilets that were in abundance! Then dad accepted a position in Tucson (he worked for IBM most of his life). Paris to Tucson. What was he thinking? It was a very hard transistion, and I think it was the beginning of my depression. The village we lived in was darling. There were just a few shops, including a boulangerie (bakery). We ate SO much French bread while we were there. It was delicious! Good times. This was 197-1078.
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Post by zella on Apr 5, 2017 3:04:18 GMT
I am sorry that you have lost something so important to you. Rather than assume these folks don't like you, or you don't do anything right, and other, self defeating thoughts,maybe it's better to assume that they had a very different vision for the group than you did, and they felt strongly that it was detrimental to the efficient functioning of the board, and asked you to step down. it doesn't mean you were wrong for the way you felt about things, and doesn't mean anyone was trying intentionally to hurt you or that they were jerks. no one has to be right or wrong here-it happened, and while it does hurt a lot, maybe it wasn't an intentional wounding or consequence for you being "wrong" I think most of what you say is true. I do think that the initial e-mail and then the follow-up one were intended to be critical and unkind. This man tends to be arrogant and a bit affected. He has an MFA, I believe, in theater, and he used to teach directing. He's also the father of two working actors, one very famous, the other less so but still known (and on tv regularly and in movies too). That, I think, makes him even more arrogant and critical of others. Thanks for talking to me. I appreciate it.
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Post by zella on Apr 5, 2017 3:12:24 GMT
It stinks that you're hurting and are being excluded from something you care so deeply about. Are there any other theater groups in your area? We have a handful around here not including all of the middle schools and high schools that put on shows. One of the towns right next to ours has a high school that puts on productions that are amazing. They rent costumes from a company that does Broadway shows. I know about five years ago they spent $10,000 on costume rentals for Beauty and the Beast. Many of the students continue on in the performance industry. There are a bunch of other groups. Unfortunately none of them work for me. The first one does musicals only. The wife of the director gets all the roles I'd be interested in. And the quality of what they do is not what I want to do. Another company has very cliquey casting and I haven't been able to get in a show there in years. We have one or two others that have recently started, but one is all men and the other one I don't know anything about. That's amazing about the high school. I saw Beauty and the Beast when my kids were small. "Fast forward to this February when I was called into Council. The person at Council that I worked with, and often did not see eye to eye with, told me how I was not a good fit as service unit director. How I was not a team player. She told me my services were no longer needed. For the first time ever, I was fired. From a volunteer position." Thank you for sharing that, *sprout*. That's pretty much exactly what the board president told me. To everyone else who has talked to me: thank you so, so much. I hope to do some more individual responses either later or tomorrow. I just had a bag of IV fluids and two doses of IV anti-nausea medication, so I'm feeling pretty dopey. I'll be back!
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Post by robinm on Apr 5, 2017 3:20:41 GMT
Can you go out in some bright purple rubber boots and jump in some puddles? Go and sing in the rain. Mourn over the loss of the theater board. It's just not your time. Go to the performances and clap and cheer loudly. A step back will give you time to regroup .
I hope this helps! Maybe you need some sunshine therapy
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Apr 5, 2017 3:26:46 GMT
I'm so sorry your friend did that. Sometimes people are too sheepish to stand up for what's right, and go with the leaders. I had a friend in high school do this to me. I remember how much it hurt. It happened again as an adult. Again it hurt so much. But you know what? They both realized their mistake and came back to apologize. One is now my best friend. The groups they "followed" eventually imploded because they were awful to begin with. From your story, I would not be surprised at all if the group eventually cuts ties with each other, and there's a new crowd and new opportunity. Maybe one day you can go back again.
In the meantime, let's talk hobbies! I know you have pysical limitations, but have you tried swimming? Getting my heart pumping for a good 20-30 mintutes relieves so much stress and worry for me. I feel whole and at peace. Maybe find something that gets you moving.
A new thing Inreally want to try is painting with watercolors. Create an instagram account if you don't already have one, and check out Cindy Lane art. I love watching her watercolor. Another thing I enjoy watching and trying is sugar cookies; I follow SeeetAmbs on instagram as well. She has videos of her decorating a cookie from start to finish. It's really fun to watch and later create. Maybr try those?
I saw you said you don't like scrapbooking too much because you think you're not good at it. Have you ever looked at sketches from places like Scrapbook Generation? I use their sketches often because it's the only way to effiecently scrapbook now that I have small kids.
One last suggestion...everyone has to eat, why not get really good at it!? Maybe cook your way through a French cookbook, or master some macarons, maybe perfect a croissant, or even delicious French bread! They say that's the highest rated favorite scent of all--fresh baked bread.
I hope things turn around sooner than later! Hugs Zella.
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Post by eastcoastpea on Apr 5, 2017 10:38:39 GMT
Hoping today is a little brighter for you.
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Post by pastlifepea on Apr 5, 2017 11:38:34 GMT
Sending you a big hot, humid hug from Florida. Don't worry, I didn't skip the deodorant. A couple of years ago, I found myself in a really dark place. My marriage was on shaky ground, DH was having to live alone for a year overseas for work, I had essentially been fired from my job (a first for me in my 40's!), and I was living 3000 miles away from my family and friends. Oh, and I had a teenage daughter who was having her own depression/ADHD issues. And one last thing which may sound trivial, I am from the South and therefore, I talk Southern. I had people mention it all the time and most loved it, but I just felt even further removed and different from the locals in California. It sucked. I lived near the coast in California and on a whim one day went to the beach to look for sea glass. Found a few pieces, which a month or so later I determined were total junk (sharp, not frosty) and threw them back. From that day, I was HOOKED. Started looking online at which beaches were good for glass, trying new places, and started meeting other people out doing the same thing. Got to the point where I knew pretty much every single fisherman that would be out as well. Some mornings I was the ONLY human on the beach and it was amazing! Over that year long period, I went to a beach nearly every day. We left and came back to Florida last June and I brought along a treasure trove of glass and other things, some great new friends, lasting memories, but most importantly, a much healed soul. I know you have said you live in or near Seattle so maybe this is something you could try. I really had some amazing experiences doing this and would be up before the crack of dawn because I was so excited I couldn't sleep. Maybe you can re-find some of your joy on the beach. Here's an article with some good beaches in Washington State: traveltips.usatoday.com/washington-state-beaches-collect-beach-glass-60680.html
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Post by jenr on Apr 5, 2017 14:33:44 GMT
Hoping today is a better, brighter day for you Zella!
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