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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 2:56:31 GMT
www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/11/trump-just-made-some-very-strange-comments-about-stephen-k-bannon/?utm_term=.4efba701019c"Goodwin says he asked Trump if he still has confidence in Bannon, who is reportedly feuding with Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner. And Trump didn't exactly disabuse Goodwin of the idea that Bannon is embattled. In fact, he did quite the opposite. “I like Steve, but you have to remember he was not involved in my campaign until very late,” Trump said. “I had already beaten all the senators and all the governors, and I didn't know Steve. I’m my own strategist, and it wasn't like I was going to change strategies because I was facing crooked Hillary.” Ouch.... In his comments to Goodwin, Trump also nodded to the tensions that exist in the White House and appeared to place the onus on Bannon to make things right — or else. “Steve is a good guy, but I told them to straighten it out or I will,” Trump said.... But the Trump White House also has a demonstrated history of distancing itself from and downplaying the roles of aides who turn out to be liabilities. And that sure seems to be the tree Trump was barking up here."  Poor Trump. Maybe he's upset that Time called Bannon 'The Great Manipulator' (that's gotta sting) and SNL did the Grim Reaper sketch. If Trump blows off Bannon, he gets the alt-right all riled up. If he doesn't, he keeps the notion that Bannon is the puppet master. 
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 3:24:33 GMT
I forgot the most important question of all. Luckily, Rick Wilson covered it.
In Kushner v. Bannon:
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Apr 13, 2017 4:05:12 GMT
The Times has a similar article tonight.
Here is what it says about the Mercers:
Mr. Bannon’s allies have already begun discussing a post-White House future for him. On Friday, his main political patron, Rebekah Mercer, the daughter of Robert Mercer, a major Trump donor, holed up in her office at Cambridge Analytica in New York, discussing possibilities for Mr. Bannon should he leave, according to two people briefed on the meeting. Mr. Bannon served on the data-mining firm’s board until last summer.
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Apr 13, 2017 4:05:49 GMT
It should be disconcerting that 21 people were willing to talk.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Apr 13, 2017 4:30:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 12:50:46 GMT
The bus to cover all the people he's tossing under isn't going to be big enough after a while.
What happens when Jared becomes the target?
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Post by PLurker on Apr 14, 2017 5:01:10 GMT
“I like Steve, but you have to remember he was not involved in my campaign until very late,” Trump said. “I had already beaten all the senators and all the governors, and I didn't know Steve. I’m my own strategist, and it wasn't like I was going to change strategies because I was facing crooked Hillary.”
His explanation of this reminds me that Trump has been a slimy snake businessman so long he is a pro at back-splaining. As if things are falling in place and were in his plan all along and not just flying by the seat of his pants. It's his own little language of BS and deceit.
Kind of like Kelly Ann Conway's ease at the language of whatever-the-hell-web-she-is-spinning. No wonder they understand each other.
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Post by femalebusiness on Apr 14, 2017 5:09:34 GMT
The bus to cover all the people he's tossing under isn't going to be big enough after a while. What happens when Jared becomes the target? Do you think if twitter started calling him president Kuchner we could get rid of him too? |
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Post by PLurker on Apr 14, 2017 5:15:22 GMT
The bus to cover all the people he's tossing under isn't going to be big enough after a while. What happens when Jared becomes the target? Do you think if twitter started calling him president Kuchner we could get rid of him too? I don't know, but good plan. Let's start #PresidentKuchner said half in jest and half in this-just-might-work-with-twittermeister |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 11:44:17 GMT
The bus to cover all the people he's tossing under isn't going to be big enough after a while. What happens when Jared becomes the target? Do you think if twitter started calling him president Kuchner we could get rid of him too? Until 2020 maybe? Think about it...... he'll be experienced then and daddy in law will be 74..... time to retire maybe? Is there such a thing as an apprentice president!  ( not sure why I'm grinning when it could possibly happen) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 11:53:07 GMT
The bus to cover all the people he's tossing under isn't going to be big enough after a while. What happens when Jared becomes the target? Do you think if twitter started calling him president Kuchner we could get rid of him too? No but it would sure piss off his FIL! (That DID work with Bannon, though...Good idea!) How did our govt become a family business... |
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Post by imsirius on Apr 14, 2017 12:06:35 GMT
Do you think if twitter started calling him president Kuchner we could get rid of him too? No but it would sure piss off his FIL! (That DID work with Bannon, though...Good idea!) How did our govt become a family business...Because he conned so many supporters to believe he wasn't in it for his businesses and family issues would be separate.. Then boom..here comes the kids and the nepotism. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Apr 14, 2017 12:19:23 GMT
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Apr 14, 2017 12:25:37 GMT
The only thing surprising is that they are surprised by Trump. I also like how the thing that upsets them most is losing a white nationalist. |
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Post by Restless Spirit on Apr 14, 2017 12:44:29 GMT
I think Trump would encourage Kushner for president. Kushner is an extension of himself.
I've been saying for months now that Jared Kushner is being groomed for the presidency and Ivanka the fist lady.
In 4-8 years he will have more experience as a government insider that any other possible candidate (Republican or Democrat). Even Trump knows that Bannon needs to take a back seat to Kushner if he (Trump) wants to extended his legacy.
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Post by mollycoddle on Apr 14, 2017 12:53:28 GMT
I think Trump would encourage Kushner for president. Kushner is an extension of himself. I've been saying for months now that Jared Kushner is being groomed for the presidency and Ivanka the fist lady. In 4-8 years he will have more experience as a government insider that any other possible candidate (Republican or Democrat). Even Trump knows that Bannon needs to take a back seat to Kushner if he (Trump) wants to extended his legacy.  That is a frightening thought. I'm hoping that this nightmare only lasts for 4years. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 12:58:28 GMT
A glimmer of hope that some amount of ethical behavior is still seen to be important. I wonder for how long. But I'm glad it's off and TFS. Sunlight destroys mildew. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Apr 14, 2017 15:31:32 GMT
"The concerned support base of President Trump" Bwhahahaha! That's hysterical. Did they really think he WOULDN'T use his supporters/voters to get whatever would bolster his bank account and then flip flop on all things? Anyone who actually supports that con is too stupid to breathe. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 17:34:45 GMT
linkJust read this article in Politico - "trump's base turns on him." Steve Bannon's downgrade is just one of many complaints. From the article. " But the crux of their disillusionment, interviews with nearly two dozen loyalist reveal, is a belief that trump the candidate bears little resemblance to trump the president. He's failing, in their view to deliver on his promise of a transformative "America First" agenda driven by hard-edge populism."Bannon is a populist and why anyone ever thought trump was one is beyond my comprehension. All you have to do is look at his history. He has never ever done anything to make one believe that he was one or even had the tendency to become one. And one of the main contentions between trump and Bannon is trump is showing he is not a populist. Jared is a businessman and as such he understands how globalization benefits the bottom line of a business in the United States. And while trump may not understand all of this he understands enough that he will side with Jared because it will ultimately make him money. And if the "little guy" benefits that's ok to. In other words Bannon and a chunk of trump supporters got duped. Can trump dump Bannon? I don't know because of Mercer and the money he spent backing trump during the election. It might cost trump more to dump Bannon then to keep him in the White House but marginalize him. IMO.
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Post by femalebusiness on Apr 14, 2017 17:55:16 GMT
As vindictive as both trump and Bannon are wouldn't it be delicious if Bannon knows things about trump and the Russians and goes public with it in some way. If he does have inside info he could bring trump down.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 23:26:50 GMT
linkJust read this article in Politico - "trump's base turns on him." Steve Bannon's downgrade is just one of many complaints. From the article. " But the crux of their disillusionment, interviews with nearly two dozen loyalist reveal, is a belief that trump the candidate bears little resemblance to trump the president. He's failing, in their view to deliver on his promise of a transformative "America First" agenda driven by hard-edge populism."Bannon is a populist and why anyone ever thought trump was one is beyond my comprehension. All you have to do is look at his history. He has never ever done anything to make one believe that he was one or even had the tendency to become one. And one of the main contentions between trump and Bannon is trump is showing he is not a populist. Jared is a businessman and as such he understands how globalization benefits the bottom line of a business in the United States. And while trump may not understand all of this he understands enough that he will side with Jared because it will ultimately make him money. And if the "little guy" benefits that's ok to. In other words Bannon and a chunk of trump supporters got duped. Can trump dump Bannon? I don't know because of Mercer and the money he spent backing trump during the election. It might cost trump more to dump Bannon then to keep him in the White House but marginalize him. IMO. I agree with you. He's very Machiavellian in the way he seems to think the end justifies the means, and has shown himself to be so all the way through the campaign. If his lips are moving, he's lying. |
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Post by hop2 on Apr 15, 2017 0:17:28 GMT
linkBannon is a populist and why anyone ever thought trump was one is beyond my comprehension. Â All you have to do is look at his history. Â He has never ever done anything to make one believe that he was one or even had the tendency to become one. Â And one of the main contentions between trump and Bannon is trump is showing he is not a populist. Â I had this argument with someone here both right before and right after the election about how could anyone believe x,y or z from Trump because his record of what he is, what he thinks and how he acts is pretty public. He has never been a private person he just puts himself all out there. The Trump that is in the White House is exactly the Trump I expected - He is exactly the Trump he has always been. And I used words like flabberghast and astounded when referring to people who could not see it. Phrases like I can't understand people or I find it funny that people got snookered. And I was told I was mean. I apologized for hurting people's feelings and phrasing things poorly. But I stand by the statement that Trump himself and his actions have NOT changed one iota from who or what he has always been. All anyone had to do, Bannon and the Mercers included, was to look at his record as a human. It's all out there in public, interviews, magazines, newspapers. Trump is acting exactly like he always has. Oh, but he said..... Um yea he said what you wanted to hear to get elected same as every single other politician ever. Why would anyone 'believe' everything any politician says in sound bytes? Look at their record. Look at who they are. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 3:52:00 GMT
I knew the money boys would take over policy eventually - and by "money boys" I mean the establishment GOP - finance, corporate bigwigs, lobbyists.
Trump's populism is never going to make it past the globalist corporatists. The only place where the intersection may hold is on gigantic increases to defense budgets and in having nominated social conservatives in social cabinet positions (HHS, Ed, EPA etc).
Beyond that, on trade, labor law, etc., it's going to be all Goldman all the time - which is hysterical in that that's what the Trumpees were so worried about w/Hillary.
It will be interesting to see it unfold.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 4:27:09 GMT
As vindictive as both trump and Bannon are wouldn't it be delicious if Bannon knows things about trump and the Russians and goes public with it in some way. If he does have inside info he could bring trump down. Since you mention it..... "A week after President Donald Trump began to publicly distance himself from White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon, a lt-right ringleader Mike Cernovich threatened to release a “motherlode” of stories that could “destroy marriages” if Bannon is formally let go from the administration. Cernovich made the claims that he’d release a series of “scoops” if Bannon is officially pushed out of the White House on an eleven-minute, self-recorded Periscope Thursday night." www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/04/14/alt-right-ringleader-mike-cernovich-threatens-to-drop-motherlode-if-steve-bannon-is-ousted.html |
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Post by verdepea on Apr 15, 2017 4:58:47 GMT
Fuck that shit show of an executive branch, my confessional representatives, and the crazy ass representatives of my state. Ugh.
I am awake and I resist.
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Post by hop2 on Apr 15, 2017 15:30:26 GMT
As vindictive as both trump and Bannon are wouldn't it be delicious if Bannon knows things about trump and the Russians and goes public with it in some way. If he does have inside info he could bring trump down. Since you mention it..... "A week after President Donald Trump began to publicly distance himself from White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon, a lt-right ringleader Mike Cernovich threatened to release a “motherlode” of stories that could “destroy marriages” if Bannon is formally let go from the administration. Cernovich made the claims that he’d release a series of “scoops” if Bannon is officially pushed out of the White House on an eleven-minute, self-recorded Periscope Thursday night." www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/04/14/alt-right-ringleader-mike-cernovich-threatens-to-drop-motherlode-if-steve-bannon-is-ousted.htmlMarriages and mistresses and fidelity have little to nothing to do with running the country. At least if our past is any example. More leaders have had some of those issues than not. It is usually in an issue for the far right. The fringe of the right thats ultra conservative, ultra 'Christian' values, ultra 'family' values. So the 'leader' of *that* alt right knows all this stuff, stuff that supposedly matters to him and his followers, but sat on it, swept it under the rug, until he feels he can use it? That's Christian values or family values??? Ok I'll Pass |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 15:41:00 GMT
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( not sure why I'm grinning when it could possibly happen)
