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Post by melanell on Aug 21, 2014 2:40:08 GMT
Aw, Bsnyder, that's so sad. I can only remember one thing ever being stolen from anyone in my family, and that was a wheelbarrow of all things. There had been some mischief type thefts of yard decorations, but since we didn't have any of those I guess they decided to go with the wheelbarrow in the driveway. Most of the stolen things were found dumped somewhere though and the police station contacted people to come retrieve their items. So we got back the silly wheelbarrow. I can recall my grandfather would always yell warnings to us about not leaving toys on the front porch at their house, and I used to think it was so crazy that he was worried about that. I was just a little girl and I couldn't imagine people taking my toys. I'm sure that's how your kids felt, too. I'm sorry they had to learn differently.
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Post by eastcoastpea on Aug 21, 2014 3:02:40 GMT
Short version: My oldest had a bike stolen from the bike rack in front of our library. It was locked. It was a $450 bike and it was recently purchased. It had very distinctive features (there were only 3 including ours in town and the nearby area). The library didn't give a crap. They weren't the slightest bit concerned that they had a sobbing child standing in front of them. While my child's friend was calling his mom and me on his cell phone, my kid was running to the police station that was the next block over. A few days later, my husband and I went to the police station to pick up a copy of the report. There was none, after taking to multiple officers we found out that the officer my kid spoke with didn't write up a report. Instead of a report, we got, Sorry, we screwed up there should have been one taken. Explain to your child that they did everything right and that no adults in charge cared. I spent time every day for the next three weeks driving around where you usually see kids on bikes. Nothing. A couple of months later it was spotted at the July 4th celebration in town. Sadly, we didn't catch the kid.
I called the two closest bike shops in the area when it first happened. I wanted to give them a description and serial numbers in case someone came in looking to buy parts (to change up the bike). The first place (where we had previously purchased expensive bikes and hadn't purchased the current bike because they didn't have it with the features in stock) I called was a total jackass and rude. The second place I called was where we had purchased the bike. At the very beginning of my story, when I told him the model, the guy knew instantly that we had recently purchased it and who we were. We still haven't purchased a new bike yet, but you can guess which place we'll be buying it from.
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Post by lucyg on Aug 21, 2014 6:03:25 GMT
Only to the entitled a$$hats of the world and the PC bleeding hearts who enable them. Excuse me??
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Post by inkedup on Aug 21, 2014 6:13:30 GMT
What would you like Wal Mart to do? Replace the bike that your son's friend failed to lock up?
Edited to add: I just saw that your friend is trying to get security footage from Wal Mart.
Still, I have to ask: what do you expect? That you'll take security footage of a stolen bike to the police and that they'll jump right on it?
It would be nice if the police could track down the person who stole this boy's bike, but it would also be nice if the boy's mom would expect her son to take a little bit of accountability here, too. People do suck, which is why you need to take care of your nice things and do your best to avoid having them stolen.
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Post by tincin on Aug 21, 2014 8:06:01 GMT
My nephew had an expensive bike stolen from him when he was 10ish. They filed a police report but the live in a big city so the police have more important concerns. The bike was gone forever. Fast forward 10 years and DN is at a party. One of his friends from that age was there as well. They hadn't seen each other in years. All of the sudden this guy starts telling the group they were chatting with how he had stolen my DN's bike years earlier and wasn't that a oh so funny. My DN is a big guy 6'4" and about 200 lbs. He said that he asked this "friend" if he honestly stole the bike. When he laughed and said yes and he still had it. My nephew cold cocked him. The guy was going to call the police when he came around. My DN said please do, then they can get my bike back for me. I have to say that I am not a believer in physical violence but damn, there are times it almost feels just.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Aug 21, 2014 16:15:20 GMT
I looked back for a previous thread and found that the bike was stolen AT Walmart. While I agree that the bike should have been locked, I don't believe for a second that if Walmart had merchandise outside, they would consider it free for the taking.
I had my bike stolen the night I moved into a new apartment.
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Post by mstubble on Aug 21, 2014 16:20:05 GMT
Add. To the list, my dd had two prescriptions stolen from our mailbox this week. I have to say that our mail order company that we have to use, Optum RX, has been fantastic in helping us quickly replace the meds! That I think I might report to the postmaster. I don't know that anything will come of it, but mail theft is a federal offense. At least around here, you have to report it to the police department, not the post office.
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Post by keknj on Aug 21, 2014 16:26:05 GMT
I had a bike stolen when I was in college. It was locked to the steps, but they cut the chain. Never saw it again. I was upset because that was how I got to school!
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Post by alibama on Aug 21, 2014 17:08:10 GMT
Add. To the list, my dd had two prescriptions stolen from our mailbox this week. I have to say that our mail order company that we have to use, Optum RX, has been fantastic in helping us quickly replace the meds! I worry about this all the time. I can only imagine this happens a lot. I am always worried if mine will really show up or not.
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Post by alibama on Aug 21, 2014 17:11:05 GMT
My nephew had an expensive bike stolen from him when he was 10ish. They filed a police report but the live in a big city so the police have more important concerns. The bike was gone forever. Fast forward 10 years and DN is at a party. One of his friends from that age was there as well. They hadn't seen each other in years. All of the sudden this guy starts telling the group they were chatting with how he had stolen my DN's bike years earlier and wasn't that a oh so funny. My DN is a big guy 6'4" and about 200 lbs. He said that he asked this "friend" if he honestly stole the bike. When he laughed and said yes and he still had it. My nephew cold cocked him. The guy was going to call the police when he came around. My DN said please do, then they can get my bike back for me. I have to say that I am not a believer in physical violence but damn, there are times it almost feels just. Now that takes a lot of nerve. I am glad your nephew cold cocked him, he deserved it!
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Post by alibama on Aug 21, 2014 17:14:39 GMT
Totally different here but when I was about 10 or 11. I stole someone's bike . We were camping at a large park and went somewhere left my bike outside, came back out and jumped on it and went back to the camper. I got there and my mom said hmmm who's bike is that? I said it was mine, she said no its not. I jumped off and looked at it and yep I had snagged someone else's bike, boy was a embarrassed. I hurried back down to that store and there was one pissed off person looking for her bike. She was not very friendly but I promise it was an honest mistake. they looked very similar.
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Post by melanell on Aug 21, 2014 17:44:28 GMT
Totally different here but when I was about 10 or 11. I stole someone's bike . We were camping at a large park and went somewhere left my bike outside, came back out and jumped on it and went back to the camper. I got there and my mom said hmmm who's bike is that? I said it was mine, she said no its not. I jumped off and looked at it and yep I had snagged someone else's bike, boy was a embarrassed. I hurried back down to that store and there was one pissed off person looking for her bike. She was not very friendly but I promise it was an honest mistake. they looked very similar. Aww, sorry they weren't very nice about it. How often do grown adults try to enter the wrong car in a parking lot? It happens. You were only a kid.
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Post by annabella on Aug 21, 2014 19:14:42 GMT
Short version: My oldest had a bike stolen from the bike rack in front of our library. It was locked. It was a $450 bike and it was recently purchased. It had very distinctive features (there were only 3 including ours in town and the nearby area). The library didn't give a crap. They weren't the slightest bit concerned that they had a sobbing child standing in front of them. While my child's friend was calling his mom and me on his cell phone, my kid was running to the police station that was the next block over. A few days later, my husband and I went to the police station to pick up a copy of the report. There was none, after taking to multiple officers we found out that the officer my kid spoke with didn't write up a report. Instead of a report, we got, Sorry, we screwed up there should have been one taken. Explain to your child that they did everything right and that no adults in charge cared. I spent time every day for the next three weeks driving around where you usually see kids on bikes. Nothing. A couple of months later it was spotted at the July 4th celebration in town. Sadly, we didn't catch the kid. I'm not sure what you wanted the library to do? As multiple people in this thread have shared, the police have minimal luck with retrieving stolen bikes. Last month I was thinking about buying a bike, a pretty purple one I found online, went to the bike shop to have them order it and was surprised by the $600 price tag. So I thought I'd sleep on it, ultimately I decided that was too much money to spend on something that can be stolen easily. I know a handful of people who have had their locked bikes stolen during daylight hours. I'm going to get a $100 bike from walmart and call it a day. Thanks JustCallMeMommy for explaining what the OP missed.
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Post by StephDRebel on Aug 21, 2014 19:20:24 GMT
It applies to hotels too. We had staff at the Rio in Vegas enter our room while we were sleeping and take $15,000 worth of cash and items including a Macbook pro, three iPhones, three iPads, two Michael Kors watches, 4 purses with over $4k value and cash.
We were told they have cameras but they're for the security of the hotel, not the security of the guests and that if we wanted to keep our items they should've been locked in the safe (while we're asleep...ooookay)
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Post by inkedup on Aug 21, 2014 19:32:01 GMT
It applies to hotels too. We had staff at the Rio in Vegas enter our room while we were sleeping and take $15,000 worth of cash and items including a Macbook pro, three iPhones, three iPads, two Michael Kors watches, 4 purses with over $4k value and cash. We were told they have cameras but they're for the security of the hotel, not the security of the guests and that if we wanted to keep our items they should've been locked in the safe (while we're asleep...ooookay) Woah....that is terrible, Steph. Someone came into your room and took all that stuff while you were sleeping? They must have been very good for you not to have heard anything. I've never stayed at the Rio, but I sure won't after reading this.
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Post by luckyexwife on Aug 21, 2014 19:45:27 GMT
It applies to hotels too. We had staff at the Rio in Vegas enter our room while we were sleeping and take $15,000 worth of cash and items including a Macbook pro, three iPhones, three iPads, two Michael Kors watches, 4 purses with over $4k value and cash. We were told they have cameras but they're for the security of the hotel, not the security of the guests and that if we wanted to keep our items they should've been locked in the safe (while we're asleep...ooookay) Wow...I hope you filed a police report! Did the police take it seriously?
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Post by imsirius on Aug 21, 2014 19:57:49 GMT
It applies to hotels too. We had staff at the Rio in Vegas enter our room while we were sleeping and take $15,000 worth of cash and items including a Macbook pro, three iPhones, three iPads, two Michael Kors watches, 4 purses with over $4k value and cash. We were told they have cameras but they're for the security of the hotel, not the security of the guests and that if we wanted to keep our items they should've been locked in the safe (while we're asleep...ooookay) Wait, what? The hotel manager said that security wasn't for guests? Seriously? Did you go further up the management chain? Did you call the police so they could view the footage? Did anyone search the staff or question them? I find this very odd...big hotel chain and they wouldn't do anything? If the room was locked and you were INSIDE and sleeping, that's breaking and entering. How did they get in without your key card? Did they steal one from the hotel desk? What kind of staff were they? Maids? Regular desk clerks? Valets? I am astounded that it was 15,000 dollars worth of stuff and nobody even batted an eyelash?
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Post by StephDRebel on Aug 21, 2014 20:26:02 GMT
To be fair we're not 100% sure who did it. Hotel security is of course saying it was a guest but when we replaced our things the next day and started googling we found identical reports from the same hotel going back at least 7 years. It didn't occur to us before the trip to google theft at the Rio. Silly Bitches. They did however give my husband (who doesn't have the same last name and could've been anyone) every detail on our case and even went so far as to call him at 4:00 am (ohio time) to tell him we changed rooms and gave him the room number (although we never changed rooms, we had nothing left to steal) After they called him and he called me to see WTF was going on and why we were moving that late I asked the head of security about it and he told me that my husband was a liar, that the guy he spoke to wasn't even working that night and that I had no business bringing it up with him. He screamed at me on the casino floor for 15 minutes or so before I told him to go fuck himself and went back to our room. The police did a report but they don't go to hotels for theft issues. We had to go to them. We asked the hotel if they could get us a car and the address to file the report and their reply was 'there is a taxi line out front and i'm sure you can google that' Umm, ok, on my laptop, phone or iPad that I no longer have??? They were completely worthless and threatened legal action if we didn't pay the full amount for our room upon checkout.
I guess it *could* be a guest, but here is a huge scandal with WSOP players having the same thing happen, that's the longest hotel guest EVER.
When we checked in they gave us an extra key- 5 keys for 4 people. We left the extra on the end table in case we needed a backup and kind of forgot about it until we were doing the reports. The only key swipes were from the issued keys, but it didn't say which key entered when.
It happened in a 22 minute period, my girlfriends went back to the room and went to bed while I was in the elevator area 4 doors down telling my husband we were back for the night and safe. Door was shut although they're trying to convince us we must've left it wide open.
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Post by Skypea on Aug 21, 2014 20:38:17 GMT
how about attaching it to a HUGE Rottweiler?
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Post by femalebusiness on Aug 21, 2014 21:01:04 GMT
Only to the entitled a$$hats of the world and the PC bleeding hearts who enable them. What the hell does this mean?
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Post by imsirius on Aug 21, 2014 21:04:48 GMT
To be fair we're not 100% sure who did it. Hotel security is of course saying it was a guest but when we replaced our things the next day and started googling we found identical reports from the same hotel going back at least 7 years. It didn't occur to us before the trip to google theft at the Rio. Silly Bitches. They did however give my husband (who doesn't have the same last name and could've been anyone) every detail on our case and even went so far as to call him at 4:00 am (ohio time) to tell him we changed rooms and gave him the room number (although we never changed rooms, we had nothing left to steal) After they called him and he called me to see WTF was going on and why we were moving that late I asked the head of security about it and he told me that my husband was a liar, that the guy he spoke to wasn't even working that night and that I had no business bringing it up with him. He screamed at me on the casino floor for 15 minutes or so before I told him to go fuck himself and went back to our room. The police did a report but they don't go to hotels for theft issues. We had to go to them. We asked the hotel if they could get us a car and the address to file the report and their reply was 'there is a taxi line out front and i'm sure you can google that' Umm, ok, on my laptop, phone or iPad that I no longer have??? They were completely worthless and threatened legal action if we didn't pay the full amount for our room upon checkout. I guess it *could* be a guest, but here is a huge scandal with WSOP players having the same thing happen, that's the longest hotel guest EVER. When we checked in they gave us an extra key- 5 keys for 4 people. We left the extra on the end table in case we needed a backup and kind of forgot about it until we were doing the reports. The only key swipes were from the issued keys, but it didn't say which key entered when. It happened in a 22 minute period, my girlfriends went back to the room and went to bed while I was in the elevator area 4 doors down telling my husband we were back for the night and safe. Door was shut although they're trying to convince us we must've left it wide open. Wow...remind me to never, ever, EVER, book at the Rio. That's insane.
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Post by eastcoastpea on Aug 21, 2014 21:08:41 GMT
Short version: My oldest had a bike stolen from the bike rack in front of our library. It was locked. It was a $450 bike and it was recently purchased. It had very distinctive features (there were only 3 including ours in town and the nearby area). The library didn't give a crap. They weren't the slightest bit concerned that they had a sobbing child standing in front of them. While my child's friend was calling his mom and me on his cell phone, my kid was running to the police station that was the next block over. A few days later, my husband and I went to the police station to pick up a copy of the report. There was none, after taking to multiple officers we found out that the officer my kid spoke with didn't write up a report. Instead of a report, we got, Sorry, we screwed up there should have been one taken. Explain to your child that they did everything right and that no adults in charge cared. I spent time every day for the next three weeks driving around where you usually see kids on bikes. Nothing. A couple of months later it was spotted at the July 4th celebration in town. Sadly, we didn't catch the kid. I'm not sure what you wanted the library to do? As multiple people in this thread have shared, the police have minimal luck with retrieving stolen bikes. Last month I was thinking about buying a bike, a pretty purple one I found online, went to the bike shop to have them order it and was surprised by the $600 price tag. So I thought I'd sleep on it, ultimately I decided that was too much money to spend on something that can be stolen easily. I know a handful of people who have had their locked bikes stolen during daylight hours. I'm going to get a $100 bike from walmart and call it a day. Thanks JustCallMeMommy for explaining what the OP missed. I would have liked the library to help a sobbing child who was with friends and not a parent perhaps by offering to call the parent, call the police, or just acknowledge that it was awful and that they felt sorry that it happened. I was looking for basic human decency. Perhaps the library manager could have phoned me after I left an in-person request for them to do so.
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Post by eastcoastpea on Aug 21, 2014 21:13:57 GMT
It applies to hotels too. We had staff at the Rio in Vegas enter our room while we were sleeping and take $15,000 worth of cash and items including a Macbook pro, three iPhones, three iPads, two Michael Kors watches, 4 purses with over $4k value and cash. We were told they have cameras but they're for the security of the hotel, not the security of the guests and that if we wanted to keep our items they should've been locked in the safe (while we're asleep...ooookay) That is not okay at all. I believe that quite a lot of people feel that they are more likely to be safe with all of the security. How crappy that the security of their guests is not considered a priority. I'm sorry that something so awful happened to you. It's probably good that you didn't wake up because that might have put you in more danger.
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Post by eastcoastpea on Aug 21, 2014 21:18:38 GMT
I had a bike stolen when I was in college. It was locked to the steps, but they cut the chain. Never saw it again. I was upset because that was how I got to school! Just like you, that's one of the things that really bothered us. Even though it was locked it happened anyway. That's how my child was going to get to school too.
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Post by eastcoastpea on Aug 21, 2014 21:21:02 GMT
Totally different here but when I was about 10 or 11. I stole someone's bike . We were camping at a large park and went somewhere left my bike outside, came back out and jumped on it and went back to the camper. I got there and my mom said hmmm who's bike is that? I said it was mine, she said no its not. I jumped off and looked at it and yep I had snagged someone else's bike, boy was a embarrassed. I hurried back down to that store and there was one pissed off person looking for her bike. She was not very friendly but I promise it was an honest mistake. they looked very similar. You made a mistake and were returning the bike. Yours was an honest mistake not theft.
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Post by marianne on Aug 21, 2014 22:08:08 GMT
lucyg femalebusiness Calm down ladies - the original comment was "Apparently it is ok to now take things that aren't locked up" - I just continued the thought with my comment... "only to the entitled..." etc., etc. I was being flip... you know, sarcastic.
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Post by mallie on Aug 21, 2014 23:18:48 GMT
TBH, in my experience that has always been the attitude of TPTB when it comes to stolen items. If it's not locked up, then it's the victim's fault. No different than blaming women for being sexually assaulted if they were wearing a short skirt. The idea is that there are always people out there looking to steal and if you don't lock it up tight, then it's your fault for tempting them.
I can remember in 1977, my then-boyfriend and some buddies went to a lake. They got back to the car and it had been trashed plus the 8 track tapedeck, speakers, and all the tapes stolen as well. They called the cops and when one of the buddies confessed that he'd forgotten to lock his car door, the cops slapped their notebooks shut, shrugged, and told my boyfriend to be mad at his friend. Not the thief. They didn't even file a report because their attitude was that unlocked stuff was free for the taking. That was nearly 40 years ago. Nothing's changed.
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Post by femalebusiness on Aug 22, 2014 0:16:56 GMT
lucyg femalebusiness Calm down ladies - the original comment was "Apparently it is ok to now take things that aren't locked up" - I just continued the thought with my comment... "only to the entitled..." etc., etc. I was being flip... you know, sarcastic. First of all don't tell me to calm down. Where you wrote etc., etc., you actually said the "PC bleeding hearts". That makes no sense to me (even as sarcasm) and I wanted to know what the hell you meant by that. Politically Correct bleeding hearts, who are you talking about that enables thieves?
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Post by marianne on Aug 22, 2014 1:01:02 GMT
lucyg femalebusiness Calm down ladies - the original comment was "Apparently it is ok to now take things that aren't locked up" - I just continued the thought with my comment... "only to the entitled..." etc., etc. I was being flip... you know, sarcastic. First of all don't tell me to calm down.Where you wrote etc., etc., you actually said the "PC bleeding hearts". That makes no sense to me (even as sarcasm) and I wanted to know what the hell you meant by that. Politically Correct bleeding hearts, who are you talking about that enables thieves? You know what? How about I don't tell you anything, okay? I don't hang out on this board to argue with anyone or get involved in unnecessary drama. I know what I meant, several others knew what I meant, and I'll make the rash assumption that you're familiar with the types we see in the news all the time who seem to think we should excuse bad behavior (i.e. stealing) to accommodate those people who think they have the right to take whatever they want. If you want to take personal offense at what I said, knock yourself out. I'm a grown woman and I don't have to justify or explain myself to anyone, least of all a stranger on a message board.
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Post by doxielady on Aug 22, 2014 2:24:49 GMT
These stories all make me sad. Children AND adults having items that they worked hard for taken from them by thieves. And it sounds like the police can't, or won't, put much effort into retrieving the stolen items. Which makes it nice for the thieves - they must count on that fact and know that they can get away with it most of the time.
Our story is my husband's business truck. He had outfitted a large white panel truck with workbenches, tools etc and took his mechanic work to the various shops around the city. One day he parked for a minute, locked the truck. Came back 5 minutes later and it was gone. He called the police and they told him, sorry, nothing we can do. WHAT?? His entire business was just stolen and there is NOTHING you can do? Are you kidding me? Between the truck and the tools, it was easily over $75,000 gone.
What stung the most, is that same night, on the news, they had a feel good story about an older lady that had an old, unused RV in her yard stolen and how the police went out of their way to help her. I think I practically had a stroke yelling at the TV. They can search for an old, unused RV, but they couldn't take 5 minutes to help with a complete loss of my husband's business.
We did end up finding the truck a week later - completely stripped and trashed and dented.
I'm still a bit bitter about the experience.
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