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Post by scrapmomof2 on May 4, 2017 2:05:32 GMT
My DH and I have been thinking about our 401k's and trying to decide exactly how much money DO we need for retirement? I have a lot less than his because I didn't contribute to it for the last 20 years because I raising the kids. His is much larger because he put a lot into it for the last 25 years. So, hypothetically speaking.....without telling me how much in in yours..... How much would you consider "enough". I know it depends on where you live (we'd like to retire to Florida) and what you plan on doing (not too much, a bit of traveling and hanging out with his sisters and their families) and how long you think you'll live (maybe for 15-20 years after retirement?) I think we could live on $100,000 a year. Income would also be from social security, and his pension.
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Post by Julie W on May 4, 2017 2:07:44 GMT
I'm not going to say my amount but my 401K program has a little calculation to help you with that and tell how you are doing. It says it recommends 80% of pre-retirement income, but I figure I could do with a little less if I have my house paid off.
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Post by ntsf on May 4, 2017 2:27:31 GMT
use an online calculator. living in the most expensive place in the country. we have quite a bit.. but we have had stock options, generous matches.. etc. florida is cheaper.. so calculate for that.
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Post by ExpatBackHome on May 4, 2017 2:31:29 GMT
I think 100,000 income a year is a good goal if you'll have affordable healthcare coverage. Also this would be with no debt, house owned outright.
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Post by katelynr439 on May 4, 2017 2:35:34 GMT
We're targeting having enough to live on about equal to 120% of our income today for 40+ years after quitting paid work. We're still 20+ years from retirement. When you account for inflation, it's an astounding number, but about $2.75M in today's dollars. That figures in we'll get a certain conservative return on those investments that makes up about 80% of what we'd live on, and only slowly draw down the actual nest egg.
Our house should easily be paid for, but I'm not counting on anything from social security and am also trying to hedge against extreme unknowns about the cost of health care, having the ability to purchase expensive long-term insurance, the tax situation, etc.
So while our expenses should be lower versus the stuff we're spending on now, I anticipate a lot of expenses we don't have now. Beyond the health stuff, I know that when you have more free time, you often end up spending more money if you want to do things to enjoy that time (travel, spoil grandkids, be able to pay to hire help for housework), be generous in the community, etc. I'm not worried about ending up with too much, haha, but it certainly does require sacrifice and serious resolve to stick to the kind of savings plan that will let us be in that comfortable spot in retirement.
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Post by scrapmomof2 on May 4, 2017 2:54:16 GMT
I found an online calculator like like ntsf suggested.....thank you, I just didn't think of that. Doh! I use Google for everything else!! Anyhoo, it's looking good....thanks!!
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Post by AussieMeg on May 4, 2017 3:07:35 GMT
A couple of years ago we have a superannuation consultant come to our work and they gave us numbers on what the average person needs to have in their super fund (what you call 401K) when they retire. They broke it down into 4 different scenarios: Single person - minimum to just get by Couple - minimum to just get buy Single person living comfortably Couple living comfortably
I'm hoping that DSO and I will fall into the "live comfortably" category rather than the "just get by" category, but it's going to be close. The table I saw showed that we will need about 1.1 or 1.3 million. Scary!
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Post by ntsf on May 4, 2017 3:08:24 GMT
my dh is getting ready for retirement.. in fact,he talked to his boss today, who has never even met anyone at their big company who has actually retired.. like quit work retired. tech is full of young people. health care is of course the biggest issue.. he can get medicare.. but i am 4 yrs out from that. fortunately, I can have cobra health insurance for 3 yrs.
so being the numbers guy, he is always calculating our net worth.. and how much money we will have in retirement.. since we have no pension. all the big finance firms have calculators too.. and people who will help interpret them.
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Post by kluski on May 4, 2017 3:24:08 GMT
I can say we don't have a million dollars or even close to it.
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Post by katlady on May 4, 2017 3:40:26 GMT
Many financial firms will do a free assessment for you, even the big trading houses like TD Ameritrade. They can plot out where you are and where you will be in the future given different parameters. We did one and found it very helpful.
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Post by canadianscrappergirl on May 4, 2017 3:41:11 GMT
We'll have enough at this point to retire for hmmm 6 months if we're lucky.
Our house is paid off and we are are about 20 yrs from retirement I guess we have some time but yeah when I think of it I get a knot in my gut.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 3:55:48 GMT
90 million dollars.
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Post by 950nancy on May 4, 2017 4:13:47 GMT
When both my husband and I retired, we started getting 80% of our salary for our pension. It goes up 2% each year. We also work part-time and easily make up for the 20% we lost due to retirement. Because of that, we don't have a giant 401K, but we put as much in every year as allowed. We have our house/vehicles/kids' colleges paid. Because of that, we can save about 1/2 of our income.
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Post by beaglemom on May 4, 2017 5:14:21 GMT
Dh wants to have a minimum of 10 million in the bank so that we can live off the interest. So it's going to be a bit....
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Post by anniefb on May 4, 2017 6:20:32 GMT
I had a financial planner do an assessment for me a couple of years ago and they estimated NZ$1.6 million for me as a single person, on the assumption I need to fund 25-30 years in retirement. That would mean drawing down all the capital as well which I wouldn't want to do as I want to make some bequests. So I'm assuming I'm going to need at least $2M.
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Post by tuesdaysgone on May 4, 2017 10:14:11 GMT
It's daunting isn't it? I retire in 7 years and it will be a bit longer for DH, assuming his health holds up. We didn't get serious about saving for retirement until we were in our mid-30s. I think we will be in a comfortable situation, just a tick above getting by. Our house will have been paid off for 5 years by the time I retire. I will have a comfortable pension, but DH will only have Roth savings and Social Sercurity.
I harrange my 20 something neices and nephews about this all the time. I tell them begin some sort of saving plan NOW, even if it's only $20-50 a month. You don't miss that money and it will add up nicely if you start young.
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Post by littlemama on May 4, 2017 11:09:42 GMT
Not nearly enough. Dh has never worked for a company that offered a 401k, and our income has mostly gone to living now. Neither of us has access to pensions, just like the vast majority of Americans.
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Post by bigbundt on May 4, 2017 11:16:23 GMT
I listen to a financial planner on the radio and she uses the guideline of twenty times your salary. So if you are making $100,000, you want $2,000,000.
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Post by scrapmomof2 on May 4, 2017 11:54:09 GMT
I used the online calculator and it looks like we will be drawing about 1 and a half more than we are making now, not including DH's pension or social security. I'm happy with that!!!
I started my 401K when I was 26 and I'm 57 now. SO glad I did!!! I didn't contribute to it for the last 20 years and it doubled in size!
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Post by lisacharlotte on May 4, 2017 12:10:57 GMT
DH wants $1M+ before retirement. He just turned 59 and wants to retire at 65. I plan to retire at the same time (58). We don't have elaborate plans for retirement but we do have home remodeling planned before then. Even so, we are on track to be fully funded and have our house paid off. 🤞🏻
ETA: It wasn't easy to get to this point. It takes a lot of monetary sacrifice and a willingness to live below your means. My husband makes good money, but that didn't start making that amount until he was a few years out of the military, so only the last 17 years. I didn't really ramp up my retirement until the last 11.
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Post by jassy on May 4, 2017 12:45:25 GMT
DH and I really need to meet with a financial advisor to get a a handle on things. I think we are ok, but I don't know -we're both 45, and would like to retire at 62.
Right now, my 401K estimates I will get a $2900 per month pay out at retirement - which seems Ok? DH has a smaller 401K than I do, but a very nice pension. Pensions make me nervous as I watched my father's disappear completely, but DH works for UPS and I think pension should be good.
Hoping social security is still kicking when we retire but who knows?
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Post by Merge on May 4, 2017 13:06:44 GMT
I think that's a question for a financial advisor. Your goals and current life situation will change the answer greatly.
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Post by myboysnme on May 4, 2017 13:12:05 GMT
I have consistently been told in retirement seminars that I will want to have 1 million, I currently have half that and want to retire in 2 years but using retirement calculators with social security and my pension I can replace 96% of my current income if I retire in 2 years and live to age 90.
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Post by annabella on May 4, 2017 13:35:47 GMT
I wouldn't count on social security being there. If it is, you probably can't draw on it until you're 90.
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Post by utmr on May 4, 2017 13:59:58 GMT
You need to talk to a financial planner, or at the very least look at an online planning tool. What you need depends on so many factors- region, healthcare, housing, age at retirement, pension, etc.
At the very least, assume you will live to 95. That many years, times your current income, escalated by 2.5% per year for inflation, discounted back to today's dollars would give you a ballpark idea.
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Post by anonrefugee on May 4, 2017 14:46:23 GMT
it's good to stop and reassess throughout the years. We weren't doing that, so I had a figure in my head from 20 years ago, and we were short. And me short of breath about it!
What I hadn't taken into account was how I'd scalled back my career to raise kids, we aren't living anywhere near the income we had when projection made. I also wasn't considering we wouldn't have a house payment.
There used to be a rule of thumb about savings doubling every 7-8 years. I don't know if that still applies, we took a big hit in 2008-2011.
Good luck! I'm trying to get my college student to start sticking a small amount in an IRA, even a small amount adds up over the decades.
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Post by papersilly on May 4, 2017 17:03:26 GMT
i think at least $1.5-$2 million in total, not just the 401K.
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Post by myboysnme on May 4, 2017 17:17:52 GMT
I wouldn't count on social security being there. If it is, you probably can't draw on it until you're 90. I probably will count on it even if something else is implemented in its place because I believe I will fall into the group of people who will continue to receive something. I think people younger than me will not have it but there is always a cut off point where the people who are already getting it will continue but those still in the work force will be transitioned to another program.
As a government worker who came in a few years after the government retirement plan transitioned from CSRS to FERS+SS I know the next retirement program may look very different but it is a large part of the retirement we have as a benefit.
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 4, 2017 17:27:55 GMT
I don't live on $100,000 now so I can't imagine trying to save enough to live on that in the future.
My 401k plan has a calculator that they use to try to figure out how much you need to save. I am currently saving the recommended amount. Each year when I get my minimal fiscal year increase, I increase my 401k contribution by 1%. In addition, hopefully we will have social security and DH's pension to live on, as well. I have a desk job and as long as I have my faculties about me, right now I plan to work until 70. If my lifestyle doesn't change and I'm actively trying to change it, I don't anticipate I'll live to 95 so I don't feel particularly motivated to save 30 years worth either. I am shooting for 80. I am trying to plan for 100% of our current income lasting ten years. I definitely think I'm on track to meet my goal.
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Post by jamielynn on May 4, 2017 17:58:07 GMT
I've always heard 20x current income as a ballpark figure.
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