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Post by melanell on Aug 23, 2014 21:48:18 GMT
As for the other comment. I count them as ignorant and move on. It's been my MO on how to avoid drama on this board for the past 11 years. Reminds me of a quote that showed up on my FB feed today. "Don't waste words on people who deserve your silence. Sometimes the most powerful thing you can say is nothing at all."
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Post by lucyg on Aug 23, 2014 22:00:03 GMT
Somehow I haven't learned that skill yet.
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Post by SabrinaM on Aug 23, 2014 23:01:52 GMT
<3 Lucy <3
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Post by hop2 on Aug 23, 2014 23:31:19 GMT
Ha I always thought the term was 'chew' you down?
If it's the other I do find it offensive, very offensive!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 1:10:44 GMT
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke Irish orator, philosopher, & politician (1729 - 1797)
Holds true for women also.
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Post by elaine on Aug 24, 2014 1:54:21 GMT
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke Irish orator, philosopher, & politician (1729 - 1797)
Holds true for women also. I'm all for holding your tongue and not arguing with fools who are just being jerks about THINGS, however, throwing out hate speech or slurs against groups of people is something else, and one I will never advocate for just ignoring. Because people ARE hurt by what they say. If you read and choose to respond, you help counter that hurt. If you say nothing, the person saying it feels fine. If you read mightyme and chose not to respond or comment on it for whatever reason, that is fine - I'm not going to judge you. However, I'm also really not going to endorse the idea that not saying anything is somehow virtuous. Because, in the Western world especially, in the face of racial and religious and sexual orientation slurs, silence is never what I would call the honorable response.
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Post by melanell on Aug 24, 2014 2:02:02 GMT
I think silence someplace like Peas is sometimes a good response. Because sometimes (and I don't necessarily think this is the case in this thread), a person says things purposely to upset & provoke, and we can all talk until we're purple and the person will either never respond at all, or they will just become more vicious with each response.
I wasn't posting the quote to say that one should never speak up, just that the previous poster's thread made it pop into my head, and yes, at Peas, when dealing with trollish behavior, I think ignoring can definitely be a wise choice.
The reason I didn't say anything in this thread really had nothing to do with the quote. The quote was a bit of a tangent, really. Sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 9:05:03 GMT
Since this is a thread with two topics, sorry Sabrina!, I just want to add that as someone who IS Jewish, it actually feels SUPPORTIVE/GOOD to hear from people who are NOT Jewish how offensive they find the term. Of course 99.999% of the people who are Jewish find it offensive. So, while it was certainly appropriate for me to respond to her claiming it was okay for her to use the term because she is Jewish, it is definitely alright for non-Jews to share that they are offended. The only reason why "Jew them down" is part of speech is because non-Jews originally coined it, and mightyme is the only person who claims to be a Jew that I've heard use it. I, personally, don't find anyone addressing the disgusting use of it here as beating a dead horse - again, it feels like people "get" the inherent anti-Semitic nature of it. All that said, I understand feeling torn because people don't want to highjack Sabrina's thread. But, if the reason some are holding back is because they aren't Jewish, you don't have to be Jewish to share disgust over this idiom, just like White people can be disgusted over the n-word. I like to think 99.9% of us feel that term is beyond offensive. The last person that I knew that used it was my grandma. She was in her 90's but even at that I had to tell her why it wasn't appropriate. I could understand because of her age but I still wanted to educate her on why it wasn't appropriate. I don't understand why people use words like that along with the N word or retarded or saying, "That's so gay." It's just beyond uncalled for. I would think if the original poster really was/is Jewish she would have more respect not less for the Jewish community. It's appalling.
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Post by purplebee on Aug 24, 2014 13:36:12 GMT
I think silence someplace like Peas is sometimes a good response. Because sometimes (and I don't necessarily think this is the case in this thread), a person says things purposely to upset & provoke, and we can all talk until we're purple and the person will either never respond at all, or they will just become more vicious with each response. I wasn't posting the quote to say that one should never speak up, just that the previous poster's thread made it pop into my head, and yes, at Peas, when dealing with trollish behavior, I think ignoring can definitely be a wise choice. The reason I didn't say anything in this thread really had nothing to do with the quote. The quote was a bit of a tangent, really. Sorry. I also couldn't believe what I was reading. But I also thought that if this person had even spent 10 minutes reading the old board, then they knew full well the reaction they would receive, and used the offensive term mainly for provocation and shock value. I wondered if a negative response would be exactly what she was looking for, so declined to comment. But back to the original op's intent - a fun thread, and the value that people put on pure, unadulterated crap is amazing!
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