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Post by transprntbutterfly on Aug 23, 2014 18:11:06 GMT
Of course you stand and sing and dance. That woman was an idiot. And who the hell takes 3 and 4 year Olds to a concert in the first place.
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Post by *leslie* on Aug 24, 2014 4:50:52 GMT
Yep, standing the whole time. Well, really dancing and singing.
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Post by AussieMeg on Aug 24, 2014 5:20:26 GMT
I was shocked that at the last 2 big arena concerts I went to, people were sitting. One was Meatloaf a number of years ago (I know, I know) and the group of girls I went with just wanted to have a fun night of dancing like maniacs to the songs we love. I was tapped on the shoulder by the woman behind me, asking me to please sit back in my seat and not lean forward. I wasn't even standing! We were all disappointed by the boring crowd so we asked the usher if we could stand to the side so we could dance without getting told off by the old fogeys. If you want to sit at a concert, just put a CD on in your lounge room!
The other one was about a year ago. Everyone was sitting, even in the mosh pit for crying out loud! And this was one of Australia's biggest rock bands from the 70s and 80s. When their best known song came on everyone stood up, but gradually one by one they sat down again, until I was the only one standing. Argh. BORING!
I much prefer to go see a band at a pub or music venue where you know that everyone is going to be standing, and if you want to sit you go to the back of the venue.
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Post by tincin on Aug 24, 2014 5:30:55 GMT
Wondering why they have chairs in venues if they expect everyone to stand? I hate it when people in front of me stand up at concerts. I don't mind a few minutes or once in a while but for the entire concert? That is just crazy. I don't say anything to them but it makes it difficult for me to see anything.
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Post by grinningcat on Aug 24, 2014 11:57:41 GMT
Of course you stand at a concert. That woman was totally out of line. Sheesh. Sorry your daughter's experience was ruined by some old curmudgeon.
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Post by purplebee on Aug 24, 2014 13:05:01 GMT
If everyone is standing, you stand if you want to see. If it is a more laid-back show, and folks are sitting, please don't stand and block their view, or make them ask you to sit. The woman asking you and dd to sit was nuts - did she think she would be able to see if you and dd sat? Duh.....
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Post by mallie on Aug 24, 2014 14:07:28 GMT
The lady was a butthead. You go to a concert and there is a huge chance people will be standing. If you don't want to take that risk, you get front row seats. That's the way it goes. Don't like it? Then don't go.
FTR -- we were at a concert once and some old farts behind us asked us to sit down. I said no. Security came and asked us to sit down. I asked to speak to the manager and pointed out that if we sat down, we then oculdn't see, so was she going to ask the next row to sit down, ad infinitum until every single person in the venue was forced to sit -- which would piss off the performer who had told everyone to stand? She said no and went back and told the farts that it was a rock concert and too bad so sad.
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Post by Judie in Oz on Aug 24, 2014 14:33:49 GMT
I was shocked that at the last 2 big arena concerts I went to, people were sitting. One was Meatloaf a number of years ago (I know, I know) and the group of girls I went with just wanted to have a fun night of dancing like maniacs to the songs we love. I was tapped on the shoulder by the woman behind me, asking me to please sit back in my seat and not lean forward. I wasn't even standing! We were all disappointed by the boring crowd so we asked the usher if we could stand to the side so we could dance without getting told off by the old fogeys. If you want to sit at a concert, just put a CD on in your lounge room! The other one was about a year ago. Everyone was sitting, even in the mosh pit for crying out loud! And this was one of Australia's biggest rock bands from the 70s and 80s. When their best known song came on everyone stood up, but gradually one by one they sat down again, until I was the only one standing. Argh. BORING! I much prefer to go see a band at a pub or music venue where you know that everyone is going to be standing, and if you want to sit you go to the back of the venue. Now you've got me wondering who the band was!
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Post by scrapsuzy on Aug 24, 2014 14:50:09 GMT
So I haven't been to many concerts, and had no idea that if I buy a ticket for a SEAT, I am not supposed to SIT in it. I also would not appreciate everyone singing, since I'm there to hear the person I paid big money for, not Joe-Blow-from-Kokomo.
In recent years I have been to concerts by Tim McGraw, Trace Atkins, and Brad Paisley, with two of them being at the same venue. The people down at the stage were standing (paid extra to do that), and the people back on the lawn were, but most everyone else was sitting, and not singing much.
I will definitely keep it in mind for future concerts, and choose my seats accordingly (no way could I stand through an entire concert)!
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Post by SockMonkey on Aug 24, 2014 15:01:57 GMT
I nearly always stand at concerts. Sitting is BORING. But, I go to the types of concerts where standing is the norm.
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Post by nyandnc on Aug 24, 2014 15:11:39 GMT
I would resent being thought of as a butt head because I don't want to stand at a concert. I am 68 years old and I love to go to concerts but I have a hard time with the thought that in order to see I would have to stand for the whole time. ...And the comment that anyone who doesn't want to stand should get front row tickets - I can't even imagine how hard is it to get front row seats at any concert! I buy my tickets to sit in the upper tiers so I can see without having people standing in front of me. There are many people who want to attend the concert and can't stand during it. The grandma mentioned that the four year old couldn't see but in reality neither could she. I think your daughter was very polite and considerate to think of others!
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Post by holly on Aug 24, 2014 15:31:13 GMT
I've been to concerts where some songs you stand for and some you sit (slow) ones. And have had girls stand in front of me the whole time, the whole concert. ( only ones standing anywhere around us) Just so the can get it on their phone. I grouse about it but have never asked anyone to sit down. Taylor Swift concert it was standup the whole time, slow song or now. No way would my DD sit at 1D! I'd expect that with that kind of band and demographic.
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Post by mallie on Aug 24, 2014 15:46:09 GMT
I would resent being thought of as a butt head because I don't want to stand at a concert. I am 68 years old and I love to go to concerts but I have a hard time with the thought that in order to see I would have to stand for the whole time. ...And the comment that anyone who doesn't want to stand should get front row tickets - I can't even imagine how hard is it to get front row seats at any concert! I buy my tickets to sit in the upper tiers so I can see without having people standing in front of me. There are many people who want to attend the concert and can't stand during it. The grandma mentioned that the four year old couldn't see but in reality neither could she. I think your daughter was very polite and considerate to think of others! You have to know the culture/expectations of the concert or event you're attending. You have to know that at a children's play, there are going to be a lots of squirming, crying, talking little kids with parents coming and leaving with kids needing the potty and so on. If you go to the symphony, you're expected to sit quietly, show up on time, not leave during the music, and clap politely. If you go to a Broadway play, people are going to really pissed if you talk during the performance. If you go to a club and there's a band on the stage, no one cares if you're talking. If you're going to a rock concert, odds are that people are going to stand and dance and wave their arms and sing along. In fact, many times the performer ASKS or even DEMANDS that the audience stand up, dance, sing along. You need to know those cultural norms and be prepared for it, just as you would learn the rules for going to live theater or the symphony. In the case of many rock-type concerts, if you want to sit, then you should prepare by buying a front row seat. Also keep in mind that you need to know the venue's rules on patrons leaving their seats -- some venues allow people from the back to come forward and fill in the space between the first row and the stage. So buying that front row seat gets you nothing more than the greatest opportunity to stand close to the stage for the concert. In such venues, the front row balcony is usually your best bet because I've never seen a venue that allows people to move forward on the balcony in front of the front row. If you can't get a front row seat, then you prepare yourself to see everyone's backs. And never buy floor seats because I've yet to go to a rock concert and not see everyone standing there (I'm sure it can happen, but I haven't seen it yet). It's about having appropriate expectations for the particular event. It's incumbent upon the attendee to learn what the event's culture is going to be like, especially to avoid your own disappointment because at a rock concert there is no way they are going to get the whole section to sit down just for you. People will view that expectation the same way they'd view someone who used a vuvuzela during the applause at the symphony.
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Post by Leone on Aug 24, 2014 15:54:55 GMT
I hate the standing trend and basically have stopped going to a lot of concerts because of it. I think it's rude. We actually walked out of one because of the people in front of us wouldn't sit down.
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Post by SockMonkey on Aug 24, 2014 15:55:31 GMT
Am I not supposed to use the vuvuzela at the symphony? Wow, that explains some dirty looks...
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Post by myshelly on Aug 24, 2014 15:56:19 GMT
I would resent being thought of as a butt head because I don't want to stand at a concert. I am 68 years old and I love to go to concerts but I have a hard time with the thought that in order to see I would have to stand for the whole time. ...And the comment that anyone who doesn't want to stand should get front row tickets - I can't even imagine how hard is it to get front row seats at any concert! I buy my tickets to sit in the upper tiers so I can see without having people standing in front of me. There are many people who want to attend the concert and can't stand during it. The grandma mentioned that the four year old couldn't see but in reality neither could she. I think your daughter was very polite and considerate to think of others! You have to know the culture/expectations of the concert or event you're attending. You have to know that at a children's play, there are going to be a lots of squirming, crying, talking little kids with parents coming and leaving with kids needing the potty and so on. If you go to the symphony, you're expected to sit quietly, show up on time, not leave during the music, and clap politely. If you go to a Broadway play, people are going to really pissed if you talk during the performance. If you go to a club and there's a band on the stage, no one cares if you're talking. If you're going to a rock concert, odds are that people are going to stand and dance and wave their arms and sing along. In fact, many times the performer ASKS or even DEMANDS that the audience stand up, dance, sing along. You need to know those cultural norms and be prepared for it, just as you would learn the rules for going to live theater or the symphony. In the case of many rock-type concerts, if you want to sit, then you should prepare by buying a front row seat. Also keep in mind that you need to know the venue's rules on patrons leaving their seats -- some venues allow people from the back to come forward and fill in the space between the first row and the stage. So buying that front row seat gets you nothing more than the greatest opportunity to stand close to the stage for the concert. In such venues, the front row balcony is usually your best bet because I've never seen a venue that allows people to move forward on the balcony in front of the front row. If you can't get a front row seat, then you prepare yourself to see everyone's backs. And never buy floor seats because I've yet to go to a rock concert and not see everyone standing there (I'm sure it can happen, but I haven't seen it yet). It's about having appropriate expectations for the particular event. It's incumbent upon the attendee to learn what the event's culture is going to be like, especially to avoid your own disappointment because at a rock concert there is no way they are going to get the whole section to sit down just for you. People will view that expectation the same way they'd view someone who used a vuvuzela during the applause at the symphony. I completely agree with Mallie. I have been to concerts where the band stops singing for a verse or two and expects the audience to keep the song going. I've been to concerts where the band refused to sing or continue playing until people were standing and dancing. When people just sit it's low energy/boring and the band doesn't like it. The band feeds off the energy of the crowd. You have to know the act you're going to see and act appropriately. The bands that *I* would pay to see in concert are definitely the high energy standing/dancing acts.
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Post by mcscrapper on Aug 24, 2014 15:57:34 GMT
I get very pissed off when people tap me on the back to ask me to sit down at a concert. It has happened several times. If I choose to sit, I know that I'll have to deal with not being able to have the best view because of others standing. We always sit if the band is telling a story or something like that, but when the music is going, I think it's completely part of the concert experience to stand. Don't like it? Watch the concert on video in your own home. That's pretty much how I feel too. I've been to well over 200 concerts and consider myself a professional concert goer! I go to several Dave Matthews Band and other shows every summer and it never fails that someone idiot behind me taps me on the back to sit down. It is usually the same azzhat that talks that whole time too. I politely tell him / her that I'm not here to sit. I'm at the show to enjoy the whole experience and to dance a little - nothing obnoxious but I'm not sitting. Now, if I'm at a little intimate concert setting and everyone is sitting, I will sit. But at a rocking, loud show....I'm UP with everyone else! meredith
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Post by MichyM on Aug 24, 2014 17:22:46 GMT
I saw Earth, Wind, and Fire last night at Chateau St Michelle (what a blast from the past)! Most everyone, myself included, stood and danced the entire time. I'm 5'3" and couldn't see anything even though our seats were close to the stage....but still had a great time! It would never even occur to me to ask folks to sit down on my behalf. All of the friends I was with were taller than me. My 6'1" friend posted some videos and stills from the show...I was like "wow, that's what it looked like!"
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Aug 24, 2014 18:15:11 GMT
We went to a Thin Lizzy concert few years back and ran into a couple that DH knows. The wife put ear plugs in and moved the chairs all side by side to make a makeshift bed and laid there and slept...or least laid there with eyes closed looking like she was sleeping..not sure which. I couldn't stop laughing it was so funny.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 24, 2014 18:20:22 GMT
Ugh, we have found that the further back you are, the more there are butt heads like that. We had that happen to us at a jimmy buffet concert b in vegas and it partially ruined our night. I hate when older people with older attitudes go not for that reason.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 18:43:29 GMT
So I haven't been to many concerts, and had no idea that if I buy a ticket for a SEAT, I am not supposed to SIT in it. I also would not appreciate everyone singing, since I'm there to hear the person I paid big money for, not Joe-Blow-from-Kokomo. In recent years I have been to concerts by Tim McGraw, Trace Atkins, and Brad Paisley, with two of them being at the same venue. The people down at the stage were standing (paid extra to do that), and the people back on the lawn were, but most everyone else was sitting, and not singing much. I will definitely keep it in mind for future concerts, and choose my seats accordingly (no way could I stand through an entire concert)! This is where "know what you are going to" comes into play. Audiences for country performers do tend to be mostly sitters. Who knows, perhaps how the audience behaves got started in the early days of the music's genre. How to behave at a country concert may well still be influenced by the Grand Ol' Opry that had a prim & proper vibe to it in an attempt to elevate country music to an art instead of a "hick" classless music type. Even before the GOO country music was something that happened at the end of a long work week and people were wanting to sit down and listen. Not dance around. Rock band concerts tend to be up and dancing-- even back in the 70s. Which with rock's roots as teen age dance bands and re-enforced with music videos of jumping dancing crowds that is what I'd expect to find at a live concert. Unless it is an older band from the 70 or even 80s. Their original teen audience, who are still likely to be a high percentage of ticket buyers, are getting older too. And more likely to have arthritic knees, hips and bad backs so they are ready to sit. But a newish, young band........ yeah, stand up and dance all the way except for the moms that brought their teens.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 18:49:20 GMT
Wondering why they have chairs in venues if they expect everyone to stand? I hate it when people in front of me stand up at concerts. I don't mind a few minutes or once in a while but for the entire concert? That is just crazy. I don't say anything to them but it makes it difficult for me to see anything. Most big concert venues can't remove the chairs. The place here that holds big name concerts has 15,000 theatre style seats. They are all bolted to the floor. Even if they could be moved it would take a lot of storage space to put them.
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Post by denda on Aug 24, 2014 22:32:52 GMT
I have not been to that many concerts, but at the ones i went to people sat. I wouldn't go if I had to stand.
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Post by huskergal on Aug 24, 2014 23:52:06 GMT
This happened to us at a Bon Jovi concert. My friend and I had pretty great seats and everyone around us was standing except for about 5 ladies behind us. They were mad because they couldn't see and asked us several times to sit down. I politely told them everyone was standing, and even if I sat they still wouldn't be able to see because the people in front of us were standing. So we stood. Ive never been to a rock/pop concert that people didn't stand. I think that lady was rude to ask your dd to sit. My daughters had this same experience at a Bon Jovi concert. I went to Queen in Chicago, and we were in the upper tier. My dd and I stood part of the time, but no one in our section stood except a few people a few rows in front of us. The guy behind me tapped my shoulder so we gave up and sat down.
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Post by tiffanytwisted on Aug 24, 2014 23:58:22 GMT
I get that no one wants to stand for 2 hours, but seriously - look around folks. If the people 2, 3, 4 rows in front of you are standing, you surely can't expect the people in the row in front of you to sit down so they can't see.
Like others said, know your venue and the type of concert you're attending so you can avoid this if it's going to be an issue.
Otherwise, if you tap me on the shoulder my answer will be, "Sure. Just get the people in front of me to sit down. And the people in front of them. And the people in front of them. And the people in front of them. And the people in front of them . . . ".
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Post by Really Red on Aug 24, 2014 23:58:30 GMT
It's a lot of money to pay for a kid who most likely won't appreciate it. Depending on where you sit, it's very loud for a younger kid's ears and finally, it's usually awfully late at night. All that aside, the 4yo couldn't stand up and wanted to sit.
You are right OP. Your daughter is adorable. Sorry she had some time that was ruined for her, but glad you got to go see the concert!!
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Post by julieb on Aug 25, 2014 0:05:49 GMT
Definitely stand if you want or sit if you want (and not see). Your seat, your choice. We have been going to a summer concert series at a small outside venue (Peter Frampton, Pat Benatar, 10,000 maniacs), so the crowd is older. Most sit and sometimes when someone is standing people will yell from behind them to "sit down". They don't listen and that is their prerogative.
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Post by wholarmor on Aug 25, 2014 0:21:55 GMT
I have done ushering for games and concerts, and it always amazes me when people complain that others are standing in front of them. It's a concert/game. It's what people do.
And in our venue, the chairs on the floor can come out, but they put them up- I guess for people who don't want to stand, but then I probably wouldn't pay tons of money for floor seating then.
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Post by theboydbunch on Aug 25, 2014 0:43:49 GMT
Standing during bit concerts is the norm. Your daughter did nothing wrong. The woman and her kids should have gotten front row seats if they wanted to sit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 0:55:59 GMT
The only concert that I sat down the whole time was The Oak Ridge Boys. I was probably the youngest one there and the first in line for the bathrooms when there was a break from their regular music to Christmas music.
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