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Post by cajeanne on Jul 12, 2017 17:40:06 GMT
Even my dh said her eyelashes looked really weird on that group date! I think Eric is a good guy but they are not a good couple together. He didn't even look all that happy when she gave him the rose! It looks like from the previews that a lot of the family situations are going to be unusual for hometown dates! |
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jul 13, 2017 6:45:10 GMT
I think it will be down to Brian and Peter, with Peter proposing. Their chemistry and body language together speaks volumes. I feel like they're both fighting falling hard though, which I guess I'd expect two educated, smart people to do. With Brian, all the right words, sex, and infatuation are what's driving their relationship.
Now Dean, dang. Is that staged!? Now I completely understand his distance during his date. I can't believe he didn't rent a normal house at a minimum; worst case he could say his whole family died in some tragic accident, don't ask. Lol
Eric, it's just not there. Something attracted her to him, obviously, but there's nothing more.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jul 13, 2017 6:53:34 GMT
Who do you think she'll take on overnights? My guess is Dean, Brian, and Peter.
Based on what Annabella wrote, regarding Eric's family and past, I feel like lack of chemistry and wanting to distance herself from negative stereotypes that she already fights hard against will keep her from continuing with Eric.
With Dean, I feel like she'll look bad and feel bad if she ditches him right after his fiasco family, so she may give him a sympathy date.
But I could see her only taking 1-2 guys on overnights, and cutting the chase, too.
I really want her to pick Peter, but on the other hand, I'd love watching him as the Bachelor.
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Post by pelirroja on Jul 13, 2017 10:19:26 GMT
The hometown dates are going to be interesting, no doubt. Dean's swami-fied Dad looked so hysterically funny (although I'm sure Dean doesn't find it amusing). There's something about Dean that makes him look like he could be a cousin to Chris Soules, he looks so familiar.
I was so surprised at Eric's disclosure: Baltimore is gritty and rough but to admit committing crimes to a lawyer? And he's never brought anyone home? At 29? Rachel has mentioned before to some of the dates that she grew up very privileged and attended private schools. Her social standing while growing up has been very far removed from the life that Eric has experienced. Her body language was pretty interesting during that date: although her demeanor was calm, her eyebrows were furrowed together (if you look beyond those fake eyelashes). It's hard to read her.
I'm thinking she ends up with Brian or Peter. Whenever they show Rachel and Peter together, she's physically aggressive towards him, but in a good way, like kissing him, leaning into him, etc. But then you overhear conversations with Brian getting asked what his family's reactions to her might be. The editing doesn't show whether or not she asks everyone about that or just Brian.
Whoever she chooses, I wish her the very best. I really like that she seems to take this seriously with a lot of thought and she eliminates guys who try to play her or don't seem like a good fit for her. She's way smarter and more intense than most of the other Bachelorettes. Rachel's season seems a lot like Trista's so I'm hoping this is one of the more successful matches.
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Post by annabella on Jul 13, 2017 13:32:47 GMT
Based on what Annabella wrote, regarding Eric's family and past, I feel like lack of chemistry and wanting to distance herself from negative stereotypes that she already fights hard against will keep her from continuing with Eric. I don't think so, this is pretty far fetched. He is his own person and has lived a standup life. When I see Eric touching her affectionately to me it just doesn't feel right. Like it's phony as they barely know each other. I was so surprised at Eric's disclosure: Baltimore is gritty and rough but to admit committing crimes to a lawyer? And he's never brought anyone home? At 29? Rachel has mentioned before to some of the dates that she grew up very privileged and attended private schools. Her social standing while growing up has been very far removed from the life that Eric has experienced. Her body language was pretty interesting during that date: although her demeanor was calm, her eyebrows were furrowed together (if you look beyond those fake eyelashes). It's hard to read her. I didn't hear him admit to committing any crimes. I think him not bringing a woman home is due to his dysfunctional family and perhaps him never being in a serious relationship. She probably thought the later, but I think it's the former. I can't believe he didn't rent a normal house at a minimum; I wonder if anyone has done that? Has anyone shared secrets from being on the Bachelor? |
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Post by Katie on Jul 13, 2017 14:29:42 GMT
It's tough to make assumptions what's going to happen with the at-home dates, because they notoriously edit the previews in a way to make you think things are going to go a certain way . Can you send point, making it look like Lee punched Kenny a few episodes ago, when in truth he got hurt playing a Nordic game.
I agree with many others who are saying it will come down to Peter and Bryan. If she picks Bryan, there's no WAY that relationship would last. There is something about him I do not like, and I think he is a player. Hopefully she picks Peter and he proposes.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jul 13, 2017 15:11:16 GMT
annabella I feel like someone has mentioned it happens often. You'll notice the house is just generic with no family photos or the kitchen is bare.
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Post by annabella on Jul 13, 2017 15:33:14 GMT
annabella I feel like someone has mentioned it happens often. You'll notice the house is just generic with no family photos or the kitchen is bare. Really?! I always assumed everyone lived in perfect upper class homes, interesting to know. |
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jul 13, 2017 17:54:39 GMT
Another "secret," and I say that loosely because it's sorta well-known, but the producers get to pick a certain number of people to get chosen during rose ceremonies in the beginning. So they make it seem like ahe gets 20 roses, but realistically, she may only get 18 for example.
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Post by annabella on Jul 13, 2017 17:56:20 GMT
Another "secret," and I say that loosely because it's sorta well-known, but the producers get to pick a certain number of people to get chosen during rose ceremonies in the beginning. So they make it seem like ahe gets 20 roses, but realistically, she may only get 18 for example. I figured that. I think the producers also arrange her order for the most drama. |
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jul 19, 2017 15:54:15 GMT
Not surprised she sent Dean home. He seems like he needs to work on himself a little more. His dad went off the deep end and there's unresolved issues.
Brian's mom is nuts. Unhealthy-boundaries nuts. A relationship with him would be utter hell. Rachel didn't see the mother wasn't joking when she said "I'd kill you." Lol
I think Eric and Rachel are developing a better relationship, but something still seems off with him. Msybe lack of prior relationships.
Even though Peter is reserved, I still think she picks him. We get caught up in this silly show where relationships are developed on short dates over only a matter of a few short weeks, and then Peter actually says "give me more time" and at first he seems uncommitted; but when you think about it, it's actually the opposite. His mindset is everything you would actually want out of a partner. You should be terrified at the thought of engagement after only a few dates in a few weeks. I still think she picks him.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 19, 2017 16:00:24 GMT
Not surprised she sent Dean home. He seems like he needs to work on himself a little more. His dad went off the deep end and there's unresolved issues. Brian's mom is nuts. Unhealthy-boundaries nuts. A relationship with him would be utter hell. Rachel didn't see the mother wasn't joking when she said "I'd kill you." Lol I think Eric and Rachel are developing a better relationship, but something still seems off with him. Msybe lack of prior relationships. Even though Peter is reserved, I still think she picks him. We get caught up in this silly show where relationships are developed on short dates over only a matter of a few short weeks, and then Peter actually says "give me more time" and at first he seems uncommitted; but when you think about it, it's actually the opposite. His mindset is everything you would actually want out of a partner. You should be terrified at the thought of engagement after only a few dates in a few weeks. I still think she picks him. I think she's gonna pick Peter, too. From day 1 he was in the top. You can just tell. I am sad for Dean. He seems so nice. I wonder if they're setting up Brian or Eric for next Bachelor? |
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Post by holly on Jul 19, 2017 16:45:35 GMT
Oh my, Bryan's mom is too much and his sister is going to be just like her. Blaming the ex-girlfriend for not wanting to be part of the family. Who would want to be around THAT all of time?? No thanks. If I was Rachel, I would run far away! The dad is a bit creepy too. I really like Peter.
I haven't liked Eric from the beginning. I think their social classes don't mesh. I would get tired of Eric's street talk all the time and I sense she does. She's well educated and Eric doesn't come across that way. Not that there's anything wrong with that, just may not be the right fit.
I felt bad for Dean but I think he still has a lot of things to work out and he's really young. He'll bounce back. I feel for him he's got some dysfunction going on and that has to be hard.
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jul 19, 2017 16:54:16 GMT
Well the hometown with Dean's dad made me feel a little at home  But it seemed to me like he was forcing his beliefs on himself. And it was as if he was using his beliefs as an escape from facing reality. And I've heard that having a Kundalini experience is naturally supposed to happen. There are ways to deliberately make it happen but I've been cautioned that this is not a good idea, especially if one isn't ready. And I think this may be what happened with Dean's dad. It's just a guess though since I don't know the fundamentals of his practice. And Bryan's mom is worrying me because she doesn't seem to be showing much self love to herself. I didn't recall anything about Eric committing crimes, but he said that his dad and uncle did. |
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jul 19, 2017 17:09:50 GMT
My husband laughed when Brian's sister said "not accepting us as equals was her demise" or something to that effect. Um, your future spouse/partner should eventually come before your parents and sister! Whoever Brian ends up with is in for a wild ride. Did anyone else notice his mom taking a shot in a cordial glass lmao.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 19, 2017 17:12:27 GMT
My husband laughed when Brian's sister said "not accepting us as equals was her demise" or something to that effect. Um, your future spouse/partner should eventually come before your parents and sister! Whoever Brian ends up with is in for a wild ride. Did anyone else notice his mom taking a shot in a cordial glass lmao. Can you imagine her as a mother in law? And then if you had kids?  |
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jul 19, 2017 17:25:16 GMT
Lmao! Yes, kids, oh man. What a nightmare.
Side note, when Eric's aunt asked about race, I thought her answer was perfect. Something to the effect of I am choosing who's the best for me, no different than the 12 before me.
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Post by tommygirl on Jul 19, 2017 17:53:22 GMT
I loved Eric on this episode. I still don’t think he is a match for Rachel, but he seems like a really good guy. He still has a little more growing up to do, but it is nice to see a guy trying to be a honorable man despite bad circumstances. I live near Baltimore and really respect him for his accomplishments.
Bryan I have no love for at all. I think his mother should be a huge red flag for Rachel. The fact that she has interfered with his love life before is concerning. She is fine with Rachel now, but the first time she disagrees with her I think she will turn on her #mamaisfierce
Peter, Peter, Peter! I have loved Peter the most throughout this season but he did seem like he is putting on the brakes. I think he is smart and realizes the seriousness of the situation. I think he will be the next bachelor if Rachel does not snatch him up first.
Dean. ABC crossed a line. The viewing audience is not comfortable with that raw level of reality. I don’t think there was 1 viewer who did not want to give Dean a hug after his home town. Then to be sent home after that! I really hope Dean is not the next Bachelor. Don’t get me wrong, I think he would be a good Bachelor. I just think his situation was exploited by ABC. If I were him I would be walking far, far away from the Bachelor franchise. I think future contestants should be leery of the Bachelor franchise as well.
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I agree!
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Post by alexa11 on Jul 19, 2017 17:54:41 GMT
I hope it's Peter- he is the most realistic. Eric is just not "polished" enough, (for lack of a better word), for her. And Brian, even w/o the crazy mama, is too good to be true. I hope they don't reveal the Bachelor before the show is over!!!
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 19, 2017 18:44:24 GMT
I haven't watched regularly this season but did see most of the hometown visit episode. Dean's visit was a horror show and I really can't believe they showed it. I was also annoyed at Rachel's line of questioning and asking why Dean hadn't made more of an effort to reach out to his dad.  The poor kid lost his mom at 15 and the family fell apart. Are Dean's brothers older? We assumed they are and his sister younger. I didn't think Dean is the right guy for Rachel anyway, mostly because of his age, but especially after realizing the emotional crap that still needs to be dealt with but I thought it was incredibly cruel that she sent him home last night. I was sure it would be Peter, Eric and Dean getting the roses. I haven't been checking Reality Steve - are there rumors about the next Bachelor? ETA I removed the spoiler about the next Bachelor. It was just DD's speculation but indirectly could spoil the winner of this season. |
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jul 19, 2017 19:01:20 GMT
What's under the spolier? The next bachelor? Or who she picks? I want to click so bad...
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 19, 2017 19:05:31 GMT
What's under the spolier? The next bachelor? Or who she picks? I want to click so bad… Hahaha, sorry, I edited my post to say it was who DD thinks is the next Bachelor. She may have read spoiler information and is at work right now so I can't confirm if it is a spoiler or just her speculation. |
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jul 19, 2017 19:08:10 GMT
I'll wait then |
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Post by annabella on Jul 19, 2017 19:50:47 GMT
Dean. ABC crossed a line. The viewing audience is not comfortable with that raw level of reality. I don’t think there was 1 viewer who did not want to give Dean a hug after his home town. Then to be sent home after that! I really hope Dean is not the next Bachelor. Don’t get me wrong, I think he would be a good Bachelor. I just think his situation was exploited by ABC. If I were him I would be walking far, far away from the Bachelor franchise. I think future contestants should be leery of the Bachelor franchise as well. I haven't watched regularly this season but did see most of the hometown visit episode. Dean's visit was a horror show and I really can't believe they showed it. I was also annoyed at Rachel's line of questioning and asking why Dean hadn't made more of an effort to reach out to his dad. Dean on was TV the next day saying the hometown visit was 4 hours long and they cut out the bad parts. lol He said he had the option of her meeting his 10 best friends but he thought in full disclosure she should know about him. On instagram he asked his fans a favor, to not think his dad is a weirdo for being in that religion because it would be offensive to all the other people in it. Look you know everyone has a hometown visit, so if you're embarrassed by your family, don't go on the show. It was his choice and now he has 24K fans on instagram, so he will fair just fine. Perhaps its a relief to have this all in the open, not some family secret. Rachel had no business advising him to reach out to his father, she comes from a 2 parent home and doesn't understand where he's coming from, it's not that simple when you're dealing with a man that can barely communicate. This was a good moment for everyone to see how Rachel's worded the diary room interview after the visit, with complete class and grace to respect his family. Why do you think Dean refused to eat the food? |
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jul 19, 2017 22:17:40 GMT
My heart broke for Dean. I think he is so dang cute, I just wanted to give him a big hug.
All season when Rachel said that Brian is too good to be true, she found out why that isn't a true statement any longer: his freaking mother. OMG RUN RACHEL RUN!!!
As much as there is to admire about Eric, I don't think she will pick him.
I hope she picks Peter. His friends were great with Rachel, as well as his family.
As we said last week, someone needs to speak to her about the flash eyelashes. They are SO distracting when she's talking.
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Post by cajeanne on Jul 20, 2017 0:44:46 GMT
I, too, felt bad for Dean. But I also think that Peter is the one. Brian's mother was unbelievable.  |
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Post by annabella on Jul 20, 2017 1:04:02 GMT
I bet Eric's parents aren't married and neither lived in that condo they were in, shoot they didn't even sit next to each other so maybe they are not even speaking to each other. The point is he was able to pull together a normal family visit as he knows that is expected of any participant on that show. So I don't think ABC is responsible for anything negative.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jul 20, 2017 1:27:53 GMT
I bet Eric's parents aren't married and neither lived in that condo they were in, shoot they didn't even sit next to each other so maybe they are not even speaking to each other. The point is he was able to pull together a normal family visit as he knows that is expected of any participant on that show. So I don't think ABC is responsible for anything negative. So do you think he got the condo and all or do you think ABC took care of that? I think Dean could have spent a year and his family visit still wouldn't be called normal. He had thought about getting together with friends ~ in hindsight it might have been better. Some family relationships just can't be fixed. |
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 20, 2017 1:29:35 GMT
I, too, felt bad for Dean. But I also think that Peter is the one. Brian's mother was unbelievable. Don't count Bryan out. Rachel REALLY likes him. They have a lot of physical chemistry. I think he's a snake, but whatever. She likes him! |
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jul 20, 2017 1:32:51 GMT
I, too, felt bad for Dean. But I also think that Peter is the one. Brian's mother was unbelievable. Don't count Bryan out. Rachel REALLY likes him. They have a lot of physical chemistry. I think he's a snake, but whatever. She likes him! Yeah, she pretty much melted when he said he loved her. The ONLY positive to Peter not being picked is he's pretty much guaranteed to be The Bachelor. |
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But it seemed to me like he was forcing his beliefs on himself. And it was as if he was using his beliefs as an escape from facing reality. And I've heard that having a Kundalini experience is naturally supposed to happen. There are ways to deliberately make it happen but I've been cautioned that this is not a good idea, especially if one isn't ready. And I think this may be what happened with Dean's dad. It's just a guess though since I don't know the fundamentals of his practice. 
