PrettyInPeank
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Post by PrettyInPeank on May 28, 2017 4:18:02 GMT
Thoughts?
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Post by myboysnme on May 28, 2017 4:30:51 GMT
I would far prefer that people have earbuds than subject me to their speaker phone conversations with their husbands and kids, play music that sounds like tin coming out of a little phone, and play their you tube videos so I have to listen to it.
I expect conversation, some raucous laughter, some loud talkers, but the above definately indicates a need for ear buds.
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Post by Chinagirl828 on May 28, 2017 4:33:00 GMT
I would far prefer that people have earbuds than subject me to their speaker phone conversations with their husbands and kids, play music that sounds like tin coming out of a little phone, and play their you tube videos so I have to listen to it. I don't attend crops but basing it on my current open plan work office I second the above. Just because you enjoy it doesn't mean I will. |
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Post by cbscrapper on May 28, 2017 6:45:19 GMT
For someone wanting to listen to music, yes they absolutely should wear earbuds. But, I selected Depends becasue I think if you are at a crop with friends, it's rude to put in earbuds - I'm there for the social aspect and while it shouldn't be nonstop chatter, we are there to socialize and talk. Otherwise, I'd just crop at home and not have to lug all my stuff somewhere.
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Post by Delta Dawn on May 28, 2017 7:10:36 GMT
If I am at a crop with BFF alone I wouldn't wear earbuds because we discuss and share all supplies. If I am at a crop and I am getting frustrated with the noise, I would wear them, yes. Sometimes noise bothers me a lot and I can't think properly. Things are a lot better as people don't use eyelets any longer. I hate the screeching noises of Cricuts and Silhouettes so if that were bothering me I would also wear earbuds.
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Post by mikklynn on May 28, 2017 12:15:14 GMT
I think crops are supposed to be fun, so people should wear earbuds if they choose.
I'd like to wear them once in a while, because my sweet, dear friend will talk nonstop throughout a 12 hour or 3 day crop. NONSTOP.
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Post by myboysnme on May 28, 2017 13:44:49 GMT
If I am at a crop with BFF alone I wouldn't wear earbuds because we discuss and share all supplies. If I am at a crop and I am getting frustrated with the noise, I would wear them, yes. Sometimes noise bothers me a lot and I can't think properly. Things are a lot better as people don't use eyelets any longer. I hate the screeching noises of Cricuts and Silhouettes so if that were bothering me I would also wear earbuds. I also have a very low tolerance for the sound of die cut machines. I bought some ear plugs and they work to dim it but not obliterate it. |
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Post by lisacharlotte on May 28, 2017 14:18:28 GMT
On my phone so can't vote. No, it's not rude. I go to a crop to crop. Sometimes i'm listening and participating in conversation with others near me. And sometimes people are loud AF and i can't stand listening to so many voices at once and the earbuds go in. Sometimes the people i go with talk nonstop. They can talk to each other while i have earbuds in.
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Post by GiantsFan on May 28, 2017 14:24:20 GMT
Absolutely not rude. Unless the "crop" is just one or two friends I invite over to my house to for the weekend!  At an organized crop with 20, 50 or 200 strangers? Earbuds are a must. |
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Post by lisacharlotte on May 28, 2017 14:59:31 GMT
I'll clarify that i crop at big crops with 50-100 people. If i'm cropping at a friend's house i don't use earbuds except one acquaintance that hosts a paid charity crop with a lot of people i don't know. And again, people talking nonstop. I can only take so much.
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Post by 950nancy on May 28, 2017 17:04:05 GMT
Hmmmm. I have mixed feelings. I go to crops to talk to other people, shop and enjoy the environment. I wouldn't do those things if I had earbuds in. On the other hand, I guess some people just aren't like me (shudder) and go for different reasons. If my neighbor wore earbuds and was sitting so that it blocked me from enjoying the conversation around me, I'd be irritated, but otherwise not so much. Perhaps there should be and earbud section.  |
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Post by PrettyInPeank on May 28, 2017 17:31:09 GMT
I'm asking because I'm considering bringing earbuds so I can just focus on my project and not feel obligated to socialize. I like crops for the kid-free open space and access to an entire store of supplies as needed, not necessarily to chat with strangers the entire time. I don't mind people around me as it creates a fun atmosphere, but I don't necessarily want to try and make lots of new friends... Crops coat money, and I feel like I wasted 1-2 hours small talking of my 5 hours last time. :/
I feel rude if I don't periodically engage in nearby conversation, and feel like earbuds may give a little pass? Just didn't want to pop them in and be seen as rude...
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on May 28, 2017 17:39:11 GMT
Not rude at all.
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Post by cbscrapper on May 28, 2017 18:15:11 GMT
I'm asking because I'm considering bringing earbuds so I can just focus on my project and not feel obligated to socialize. I like crops for the kid-free open space and access to an entire store of supplies as needed, not necessarily to chat with strangers the entire time. I don't mind people around me as it creates a fun atmosphere, but I don't necessarily want to try and make lots of new friends... Crops coat money, and I feel like I wasted 1-2 hours talking of my 5 hours last time. :/ I feel rude if I don't periodically engage in nearby conversation, and feel like earbuds may give a little pass? Just didn't want to pop them in and be seen as rude... Not rude in this situation, especially if you don't really know those around you. It's not like you're blatantly ignoring friends - you're focusing on the scrapping. |
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Post by destined2bmom on May 28, 2017 20:30:12 GMT
I don't think it's rude. My girlfriend always takes a pair, so she can tune out the noise and listen to music.
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Post by infochick on May 28, 2017 22:09:24 GMT
I'm extremely introverted so I just can't handle a full weekend of making small talk with strangers. To me that's energy that I would rather be channelling into my creativity. I usually go to crops with my mom and we're both pretty quiet...if I'm with her or if we're with acquaintances then I don't wear earbuds, otherwise they're a must for me. My music isn't up so loud that if someone makes a comment to me that I don't hear so if need be I pop one out for a quick conversation.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on May 29, 2017 1:54:18 GMT
This is my first time to sit and write a book (because, that's what I do) to explain my reasoning. I don't think it's rude at all. I am very anti-social but I also feel the buzz of excitement when surrounded by people at an event like this (I have attended a couple of expos to shop and it was exciting hearing all the activity around me even though I wasn't cropping) and I think that buzz could be a great motivator for me. I can do the 'hi, my name is...I'm from...' type of chit chat, but when it comes to in depth conversation with people I've just met, I either struggle to interject at appropriate times or I say something that could potentially make a situation uncomfortable without meaning to. So rather than feeling left out, I can just retreat to something I enjoy listening to and put myself in my own little bubble instead of trying to fit in where I clearly don't. It can take all of my energy just to try and socialize with people whom socializing just comes naturally for.
I also become anxious at the drop of a hat with no way of predicting when it will happen or what might cause it (I have certain reliable triggers, but I can still be caught off guard) and then I just have days where I wake up feeling like crap and just functioning like a sane person is difficult. Sometimes I can go to bed feeling great and wake up feeling on edge all day long...it won't go away until I've started a new day...these particular days can make it hard to socialize no matter the topic of conversation. When that happens, noise around me can send me over the edge (chaotic sound is a fairly reliable trigger when I'm having a bad day). Music, being rhythmic instead of 100 conversations in 100 different directions around me, helps to keep me from feeling overwhelmed and calms my mind...I will retreat to listen to music on full blast at home to drown out whatever is causing me anguish so I wouldn't hesitate to apply the same solution(just using headphones or earbuds) when not a home.
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Post by don on May 29, 2017 3:59:05 GMT
If you don't want to mingle with the other croppers, stay home. Crops are meant to be social events, be sociable.
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Post by gmcwife1 on May 29, 2017 4:53:17 GMT
You are paying for your space and the time for your craft. You are not paying to be obligated to socialize.
I'll be at a 12 hour crop Saturday. I will bring my earbuds and I will at times wear them if necessary. I can't stand listening to whistling or loud chewing, so if needed, I will put them in. I'm paying to enjoy my dedicated crop time, so I should be able to do what makes me happy as long as it doesn't infringe on others.
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Post by 50offscrapper on May 29, 2017 4:59:19 GMT
Not rude. I think if you go to a crop to socialize that is fine, but sometimes people go to get stuff done and a crop is the only time someone has uninterrupted time. You pay money to go, so in my opinion do whatever you want in terms of socializing or not.
I don't agree that if you don't want to socialize that you should stay home.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on May 29, 2017 5:05:48 GMT
Is it rude? Absolutely not. It's a far greater transgression, in my view, to be the person who won't. stop. talking. no matter how many people are throwing dirty looks your way.
Crops are supposed to be fun. And even though I am an introvert (and I do indeed put my headphone on to cancel out other people's conversations), I can usually hear people talking to me-- and people do like to walk around and look at each other's projects, so I'll share, and I will offer up supplies if people need something I have.
But people also go to crops to work. You just want to chit chat, there's a bar down the street. No one should be put-out by you making the best workspace for you (as long as it's not distracting other croppers, obviously).
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Post by anniefb on May 29, 2017 6:18:38 GMT
I agree that sometimes big crops can be loud and overwhelming - one reason I don't attend them anymore. I don't think it's rude at all to have earbuds in and be concentrating on your own projects, listening to music or whatever. I'd much rather have that than someone who won't stop talking the entire time!
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Post by PrettyInPeank on May 29, 2017 18:46:24 GMT
If you don't want to mingle with the other croppers, stay home. Crops are meant to be social events, be sociable. Do you also believe people who cannot socialize due to disability should stay home as well? |
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Post by peasapie on May 29, 2017 21:50:30 GMT
I didn't vote because I have never gone to a crop. But this topic brings up a question in my mind. I thought people went to a crop so they could chat with others while they scrapbook. But if you are wearing earbuds, you can't carry on a conversation, so why not just do your scrapbooking at home? I must be missing something.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on May 29, 2017 23:31:25 GMT
I didn't vote because I have never gone to a crop. But this topic brings up a question in my mind. I thought people went to a crop so they could chat with others while they scrapbook. But if you are wearing earbuds, you can't carry on a conversation, so why not just do your scrapbooking at home? I must be missing something. I agree it is a social gathering generally speaking. That said, if you go alone and don't know anyone, you're at the mercy of the person next to you. Imagine settling in at your table, starting to mentally design a page, and your table-neighbor will not stop commenting and showing you every.single.picture as they go. "Omg we had SO much fun here! See his face? He was terrified of the crabs! (Shows more pictures and names individuals) Are you going anywhere fun this summer!??" And proceeds to show you every single picture, and layout, too. Think interuptions every 10 minutes. Or the lady who will not stop trash talking her dumb husband and friends... just really uncomfortable gossip. Or sitting in a group of 6 women where they are all twice your age and different stage of life and know each other, and don't engage you at all. I tried organizing a crop with 4-5 ladies through Facebook who were strangers. I am not kidding you when I say one of the 4 talked THE entire time and dominated every conversation. She brought an entire tote and only used her time to show us all her purchases. "Walmart! $1!!! Cute isn't it! Let me show you how I used it on a page. (Digs in bags and albums until she finds the page) See how cute! See that paper, I got it at Joann's clearance for only $2! (Digs in tote to find some other bargain item that she bought to coordinate...) The entire time she was like this. Just thought we'd want to see everything she ever bought. She got nothing done because of it. I got nothing done either, because I was either being polite listening to Ms. Talkative or I was spending the rest of my time helping two friends who came together who were new to scrapbooking. Which is fine, I don't mind introding the hobby to new people, but Ms. Talkative would cut me off and talk over me when I'd give advice or an opinion to a question. The 4th girl brought her baby and husband. And scrapping at home isn't always easy or possible at home. Right now, the only place is my kitchen table, and I have small kids. I don't want to even attempt to scrap when they're around, so that leaves evenings when my energy and creative mind are spent. There's also something so cool about being able to shop and scrap at the sametime which is unique to an in-store crop. Can you say tab!? How cool! Anyway, thanks for the responses. Thanks for the question trying to gain understanding without judging first. I'm happy to see so many don't think it's rude, and I will be buying glittery ridiculous earbuds exclusively for my scrap tote for if (when) I need them. |
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Post by Mama Nerd on May 29, 2017 23:56:30 GMT
No, absolutely not rude. It could be a sanity saver for many. I, for one, suffer from misophonia and if someone at my table were to start snapping gum or eating or drinking noisily I would be very uncomfortable. The earbuds would allow me to block the trigger noise and allow me to continue to scrap productively.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on May 30, 2017 0:12:04 GMT
I didn't vote because I have never gone to a crop. But this topic brings up a question in my mind. I thought people went to a crop so they could chat with others while they scrapbook. But if you are wearing earbuds, you can't carry on a conversation, so why not just do your scrapbooking at home? I must be missing something. I am fortunate that I have my own craft space, but sometimes I like the change of scenery. If I try to craft at home, there's laundry to do, food to eat, internet to surf... if I go to a crop, I really just have my crafting to work on, so I am more focused. And there is something affirming about finishing a project and having someone come around later and say "ooh, that's neat." I mean, SO will say that too if I show him what I finished but you know how guys are-- they think it's a trap so of course he's gonna say it's nice.  No one at the crop has to say anything about my project if they don't want to. Also, I sometimes get more done if I just pack up enough for my projects and head out. If I try to craft at home, I sometimes get bogged down with just the sheer vastness of crap that I have at my disposal. When I went to crops at Archiver's, it was nice to be able to get up and browse the store if I really needed something. My CTMH rep hosts crops now, and she has a little bit of shopping. But she also has BINGO and door prizes, which I don't have at home. |
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Post by melanell on May 30, 2017 0:33:45 GMT
I think it depends. If it is a larger crop, with a sizeable group of people and no one is teaching anything, then I think it would fine. Those who want to chit-chat will have other to chat with, and you're not ignoring an instructor or anything like that. I think I'd just say "hi" to those around me, and let them know that I scrap best to music so I have brought my earbuds along to keep myself bopping along and feeling creative. Something I do at home sometimes, is to leave in just one earbud, so that I don't seem completely closed off to those around me, but that's just a personal choice, and again, it's different as it's at home, where my kids may call for me, or my DH may walk in talking to me at any point. |
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Post by lisacharlotte on May 30, 2017 0:34:54 GMT
I can crop at home, but there are other obligations and distractions. I like to go to 3 day crops where i have uninterrupted time to only crop. As others have said, at a crop there's no pull to do some housework or expectation to stop except when I want to. I get a ton done and see what others are doing and yes I socialize. But again, it's on my terms based on what i'm doing at the moment. If I'm on a roll my earbuds are in and i'm getting stuff done.
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Post by tampascrapper on May 30, 2017 0:42:16 GMT
No I don't think it's rude at all.
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No one at the crop has to say anything about my project if they don't want to.
