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Post by Olan on Jun 2, 2017 22:33:36 GMT
Hi I want to provide a little known black history fact. Black Wall Street SmithsonianI think this is the only time in history where the US military bombed on US soil. I may be wrong though. "It’s never been fully settled exactly what happened between a black man named Dick Rowland, a shoe shine, and Sarah Page, an elevator operator at the Drexel Building in downtown Tulsa, but some of the few people working on May 30, 1921—Memorial Day–heard a scream and then saw Rowland rushing away from the building. There is speculation that the two were lovers, something that would have gotten both into serious trouble, but nothing was ever confirmed. What is clear is that her scream was interpreted as a sign that Rowland “assaulted” her. It was a claim which she denied to the police upon being questioned." Would anyone like tickets (6) to the Smithsonian Fathers Day weekend? My niece is graduating that weekend and I won't be able to use them.
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Post by casii on Jun 2, 2017 22:41:51 GMT
I'd never heard of that Tulsa story. I was born in Stillwater.
Are the tickets for the new African American museum? I'd be interested! Congratulations to your niece. We're just celebrating our daughter's college graduation. Busy month for a lot of us, eh?
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Post by ntsf on Jun 3, 2017 0:34:47 GMT
I've heard the story, but it needs more highlighting.. ...
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Post by peano on Jun 3, 2017 1:58:15 GMT
I lived in Tulsa for several years and I was aware of the Greenwood massacre, but not exactly sure how I became aware of it--perhaps reporting from the Tulsa World. At the time, I remember being shocked that such a major horrible and violent incident had previously received no coverage in the press.
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 3, 2017 2:01:39 GMT
Thank you for sharing. I had never read about this.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2017 2:02:29 GMT
I lived in Tulsa for several years and I was aware of the Greenwood massacre, but not exactly sure how I became aware of it--perhaps reporting from the Tulsa World. At the time, I remember being shocked that such a major horrible and violent incident had previously received no coverage in the press.Unlike the "Bowling Green massacre" which got a lot of play. Fake massacres get big play. Real massacres get little play. I want my country to grow up and stop being the land of unthinking, uncaring masses.
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Post by inkedup on Jun 3, 2017 2:07:54 GMT
I have never heard of the Tulsa Riots. This pretty significant event was never mentioned in any of the US history texts I read in high school or college.
And people wonder why there is a need for African American studies.
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Post by supersoda on Jun 3, 2017 2:43:32 GMT
I heard about Tulsa a year or so ago from an acquaintance who lived in Tulsa. I was surprised I hadn't heard of it before.
I was lucky enough to get to visit the African American Museum a couple of months ago. It was very well done and a beautiful museum. Apparently, tickets are very hard to come by. An event I attended held a private reception there, and everyone who was local was bringing tons of guests because it is so hard to get in.
I also visited the National Civil Rights museum in Memphis a few months ago. It also associated with the Smithsonian, and an excellent museum. Definitely a must-see in Memphis. It is in the Lorraine Motel (where Martin Luther King Jr. was killed). We stumbled upon it when passing through Memphis last summer, and DH and I made a road trip back to Memphis, in part, to see this museum.
The African American museum has a broader focus, an the National Civil Rights Museum is more focused on the modern Civil Rights era. Both were very moving and thought-provoking.
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Post by conchita on Jun 3, 2017 2:48:15 GMT
I homeschool my kids. Several years back when we lived in Oklahoma we did some research as part of Black History Month & State History course and learned of this event. We now live in Texas and have researched some incidents that have occurred in Waco. This kind of history never seems to stay entirely in the past no matter how much it is hidden.
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Jun 3, 2017 5:30:24 GMT
Born and raised Tulsan here. I live very close to the area this happened. In the area that was referred to as Black Wall Street, the stone steps to homes that were burned still exist. And it's correct that the Tulsa race riots are not in any texts. I've known about that awful night since I was young, as my Gramma told me. My great grandfather owned a business downtown and helped hide a few young boys in the back of his store. They burned down his business because of it. That area is now called Greenwood Ave and has been thriving lately with local black businesses. It's much more known now, a friend who is a teacher in the area has it in her 4th grade history curriculum.
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Post by Olan on Jun 4, 2017 17:01:54 GMT
I'd never heard of that Tulsa story. I was born in Stillwater. Are the tickets for the new African American museum? I'd be interested! Congratulations to your niece. We're just celebrating our daughter's college graduation. Busy month for a lot of us, eh? Yes the tickets are to the African American Museum of History and Culture. I will send you a peamail! Also thank you! She will be giving the commencement speech so our family is super excited to attend.
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Post by pierogi on Jun 4, 2017 17:27:39 GMT
I've heard of the Tulsa Riots. It was an appalling event that almost nobody learns about in school. And I know exactly what conchita is talking about when she references Waco. It was very much like an event that happened here in Colorado back around the turn of last century. Our history is loaded with such events, all brushed away and forgotten. I was lucky enough to attend schools that took history very seriously, and sought to include *all* history. It kind of bugs me that Black History is shuttled off as a niche subject, because it's not. Black History is our history too.
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Post by pinkgreen on Jun 4, 2017 20:25:30 GMT
Born and raised Tulsan here. I live very close to the area this happened. In the area that was referred to as Black Wall Street, the stone steps to homes that were burned still exist. And it's correct that the Tulsa race riots are not in any texts. I've known about that awful night since I was young, as my Gramma told me. My great grandfather owned a business downtown and helped hide a few young boys in the back of his store. They burned down his business because of it. That area is now called Greenwood Ave and has been thriving lately with local black businesses. It's much more known now, a friend who is a teacher in the area has it in her 4th grade history curriculum. Also from Tulsa, I learned about it at a young age. Last week, the Tulsa World reprinted an article from the time of the riots. It was quite sobering to read the article from today's perspective. It's a great example of how history texts are really just surveys and should not be the sole resource used to teach history topics at an in depth level. The internet is such a great tool to access necessary supplemental material for social studies, especially primary sources. It is part of the Oklahoma Social Studies standards now, but I honestly don't remember if/how much I learned about it in school. It never really occurred to me that others may not have heard of it. Here's a link to more info about the Tulsa Race Riots.
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Post by Olan on Oct 23, 2019 0:32:30 GMT
For posterity when someone undoubtedly complains about the bumping threads Whatever floats your boat....
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Post by christine58 on Oct 23, 2019 0:36:09 GMT
Olan You are a piece of work....
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Post by pierkiss on Oct 23, 2019 0:39:19 GMT
Interesting! I didn’t see this thread first time around. We watched the first episode of The Watchmen last night, and the first scene of the show depicts this event. I had no idea this even took place. It was horrible! I can’t believe this happened here. I thought it was a really fucked up story line, but my husband googled and told me that it was a real thing. 😢
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Post by dizzycheermom on Oct 23, 2019 0:42:53 GMT
Actually just heard about this for the first time recently and did some research. Definitely need to educate our children on all of this, not just the white-washed version of American history.
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Post by Olan on Oct 23, 2019 0:57:25 GMT
Actually just heard about this for the first time recently and did some research. Definitely need to educate our children on all of this, not just the white-washed version of American history. It would be awesome but I can understand the resistance. It’s hard to reconcile ones ancestors were POS who were capable of such things. Pride is a big part of the fabric of American society, so not being able to celebrate is hard for some to swallow.
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Post by Olan on Oct 23, 2019 1:01:53 GMT
Olan You are a piece of work.... A lot of people who know me would agree! I’m the fifth and final female child in my family so they all joke my life’s path was pretty set in stone. I thank God for it.
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Post by hennybutton on Oct 23, 2019 2:47:25 GMT
I first heard of this horrific event last week on a podcast that was talking about the KKK as part of a series on terrorism in the US. Then, the opening of the new Watchmen series on HBO took place in Tulsa 1921. Yesterday, someone I follow on Twitter shared a link to the Smithsonian story. Now, I see it here.
I wonder why it's come to my attention 4 times in less than a week.
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Post by dewryce on Oct 23, 2019 4:20:41 GMT
I first heard of this horrific event last week on a podcast that was talking about the KKK as part of a series on terrorism in the US. Then, the opening of the new Watchmen series on HBO took place in Tulsa 1921. Yesterday, someone I follow on Twitter shared a link to the Smithsonian story. Now, I see it here. I wonder why it's come to my attention 4 times in less than a week. Because of a scene in The Watchmen and because one of the last survivors of The Tulsa Race Riots died. AP Article.
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Post by Olan on Dec 19, 2019 11:47:32 GMT
I first heard of this horrific event last week on a podcast that was talking about the KKK as part of a series on terrorism in the US. Then, the opening of the new Watchmen series on HBO took place in Tulsa 1921. Yesterday, someone I follow on Twitter shared a link to the Smithsonian story. Now, I see it here. I wonder why it's come to my attention 4 times in less than a week. It is my hope that the racial terror my ancestors experienced continue to be at the forefront of everyone’s mind. A reckoning. So folks can stop denying what really happened. A new development: www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/12/16/tulsa-moves-closer-learning-if-there-are-mass-graves-race-massacre/
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Post by hennybutton on Dec 20, 2019 1:39:10 GMT
I first heard of this horrific event last week on a podcast that was talking about the KKK as part of a series on terrorism in the US. Then, the opening of the new Watchmen series on HBO took place in Tulsa 1921. Yesterday, someone I follow on Twitter shared a link to the Smithsonian story. Now, I see it here. I wonder why it's come to my attention 4 times in less than a week. It is my hope that the racial terror my ancestors experienced continue to be at the forefront of everyone’s mind. A reckoning. So folks can stop denying what really happened. A new development: www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/12/16/tulsa-moves-closer-learning-if-there-are-mass-graves-race-massacre/As a nation, we have always had a holier-than-thou attitude towards the atrocities committed by other nations. We bury the horrific things our goverment, whether national or local, has done. Then, we tell ourselves we are about peace and brotherhood. When I was in Europe this summer, I saw and heard reminders of the Holocaust. Germany and the rest of Europe teach about Nazi Germany and WWII to prevent a recurrence. Those who forget their history are doomed to repeat it.
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Post by Olan on Jun 11, 2020 1:04:48 GMT
45’s next rally is in Tulsa on Juneteenth. Pretty sick.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2020 1:53:30 GMT
I’ve heard of this event but I don’t know if knew the extent. I like the inisistenxe that it be called a massacre, not a riot.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2020 1:54:03 GMT
45’s next rally is in Tulsa on Juneteenth. Pretty sick. Gross. I hate him
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Post by hop2 on Jun 11, 2020 2:06:04 GMT
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Jun 11, 2020 2:19:47 GMT
I’m pretty sure one of the largest ever Black Lives Matter protests will take place here that day too.
Don’t worry, we will show him just what we think of him.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 11, 2020 2:31:37 GMT
I’m pretty sure one of the largest ever Black Lives Matter protests will take place here that day too. Don’t worry, we will show him just what we think of him. ✊🏿✊🏾✊🏽✊🏼✊🏻 Be careful, he’s apparently not opposed to using the military against his own citizens. You ever know when he will decide he needs a bigger perimeter for safety and opens fire on citizens peacefully protesting. You can’t trust the man.
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 11, 2020 2:33:55 GMT
45’s next rally is in Tulsa on Juneteenth. Pretty sick. I'm not sure we can credit 45 with knowing anything about either the Tulsa Race Riots or Juneteenth, but he'd be all in on the date & location when someone on his team suggested it. My money's on Miller. And, yes, it's pretty sick. I’m pretty sure one of the largest ever Black Lives Matter protests will take place here that day too. Please make it happen.
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