zztop11
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Post by zztop11 on Jun 11, 2017 20:35:17 GMT
Was at a family party this weekend. My cousin's daughter does not drive on the highway. She is 28 and is afraid. She lives in Wash. D.C. The party was in Harrisburg which is about 110 miles away. So in order to get to the party she took a train from D.C. to New Jersey where her brother picked her up and they drove to the party. Now here is the kicker . . . she has to get home. To get home, she is going from Harrisburg to the Northern New Jersey shore with her brother and then her father is going to drive her from the Jersey shore back to Wash. D.C. So she's going about 180 north and then turning around and going about 200 miles south.
Why can't she take a train from Harrisburg to D.C.? Why can't she go back to drivers ed. and learn to drive on the highway? Do you think her father is enabling her? (Parents divorced when she was about 4. It is one messed up family but all that is for another post.) What do you think? Would you do this for your adult child?
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Post by chaosisapony on Jun 11, 2017 20:37:50 GMT
I'm 33 and have severe highway driving anxiety. There are certain places I will not drive to because of it. It sucks but I recognize that with my driving anxiety in these places it's not safe for me or the other drivers around me. Every year I push myself a little bit more and a little bit farther just because sometimes there are things I have to do for work and such. In a situation where it's just a party I likely just wouldn't go. If I had other options like trains or relatives I would absolutely take advantage of those offers.
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Jun 11, 2017 20:38:06 GMT
It sounds like it may be safer for other drivers if she doesn't drive on the highways since she has such a fear. She'd be more apt to take a bad judgment or mistake.
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Post by katlady on Jun 11, 2017 20:39:57 GMT
My mom will not drive on the freeways. She has been driving for years. And I had a co-worker who also did not drive on the freeway. She once got a ticket for going 40 in a 55 zone. So, some people just are not comfortable driving on fast roads. I'd rather they get rides then go out there and become a traffic hazard.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 11, 2017 20:43:30 GMT
Was at a family party this weekend. My cousin's daughter does not drive on the highway. She is 28 and is afraid. She lives in Wash. D.C. The party was in Harrisburg which is about 110 miles away. So in order to get to the party she took a train from D.C. to New Jersey where her brother picked her up and they drove to the party. Now here is the kicker . . . she has to get home. To get home, she is going from Harrisburg to the Northern New Jersey shore with her brother and then her father is going to drive her from the Jersey shore back to Wash. D.C. So she's going about 180 north and then turning around and going about 200 miles south. Why can't she take a train from Harrisburg to D.C.? Why can't she go back to drivers ed. and learn to drive on the highway? Do you think her father is enabling her? (Parents divorced when she was about 4. It is one messed up family but all that is for another post.) What do you think? Would you do this for your adult child? Not to mention once out of D.C. You can get to Harrisburg without highways. It's longish but a nice drive. My niece lives in Virginia and one one trip home there was a major highway shutdown so we did back roads from Virginia to just south of Harrisburg. Nice scenic route. Amtrak from PA to NJ is a fortune and a fortune from NJ to D.C. ( which I'm pretty sure goes back thru Pa boy she's spending a fortune to avoid that
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 20:47:38 GMT
I think you're being horribly judgey, would it be better to have an anxiety attack once she's on the highway if her fear overcomes her? I'm 47 and don't drive at all, I know my limitations.
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PrettyInPeank
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jun 11, 2017 20:50:55 GMT
This is one of those times where I'll reserve judgement because it could be mental illness. Crippling anxiety or OCD for example. We all say we need to be more understanding of mental illness, remove the stigma, encourage treatment, but then judge the hell out of people when they face challenges.
So, I'll give her a pass because her transportation alternative isn't glamorous, quick, or convenient to anyone, so clearly something is up.
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Post by marianne on Jun 11, 2017 20:53:00 GMT
I understand her fear. Driving on the highway, specifically the Capital Beltway, in and around Washington, DC is traumatizing. I learned to drive on the Beltway years ago, and you couldn't pay me to drive it anymore. I'm not real crazy about riding on it anymore. It's beyond nerve wracking, especially if you're a nervous driver. Better that she not get behind the wheel of a car with that kind of anxiety. Not everyone is cut out to drive.
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Post by nellej on Jun 11, 2017 20:53:05 GMT
Not everyone is comfortable driving. She made the effort to be there, that's all that matters.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 11, 2017 20:55:45 GMT
I think you're being horribly judgey, would it be better to have an anxiety attack once she's on the highway if her fear overcomes her? I'm 47 and don't drive at all, I know my limitations. I get the highway thing and yes it is best if a person does know their limitations But she's really going A LOT out of her way and spending probably double for the little jaunt to NJ. NJ transit is costly and Amtrak is insanely expensive. I wonder if it's all to see her father? DD has several friends who can't drive. It irks the crap out of me because DD ends up driving them places and I end up subsidizing other parents stupid parenting choices. Just a pet peeve of mine. Where we live there is NO mass transit. Maybe a train to NYC but that's over priced and under reliable. You just have to drive here unless you bike a lot.
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Post by zztop11 on Jun 11, 2017 21:00:00 GMT
Of course she has anxiety about it. She's never done it. I guess that I don't have sympathy for her because as a 28 year old, I would never have let that happen to me. I would have worked to overcome it.
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 11, 2017 21:03:05 GMT
I dont know why she coulsnt take the train other than cost.
As for highway driving, my mother won't do it. My cousin, who is the same age as me, won't drive on the interstate or in big city traffic. She barley wants yo drive in town.
Me? I'll drive anywhere that isn't sheer drop off cliff.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 21:03:17 GMT
Of course she has anxiety about it. She's never done it. I guess that I don't have sympathy for her because as a 28 year old, I would never have let that happen to me. I would have worked to overcome it. Well bully for you! Save
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Post by Zee on Jun 11, 2017 21:17:50 GMT
I understand, I was like this until I was about 24. I finally overcame my fear by taking a trip to see my sister by myself playing CDs of music I really liked and found empowering. Then I drove up to see my dad in Chicago. From there it all got much easier.
I think a large part of it was not knowing exactly where I was going, which caused me a lot of anxiety compounded by the fast speeds. Now I can drive across the country alone, all around Chicago, Philly, other urban areas without being scared. I just got more confident by making myself do it. I actually am a lot less scared if I'm the driver, because I'm in control. But I understand the fear.
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Post by theroadlesstraveledp on Jun 11, 2017 21:29:30 GMT
I think a large part of it was not knowing exactly where I was going, which caused me a lot of anxiety compounded by the fast speeds. Now I can drive across the country alone, all around Chicago, Philly, other urban areas without being scared. I just got more confident by making myself do it. I actually am a lot less scared if I'm the driver, because I'm in control. But I understand the fear. I understand that fear too, and for a while I wouldn't drive the freeway either due to the anxiety of not knowing where I was going. My uncle bought me a Magellen GPS system (this was before the phone map technology was both popular and helpful) and that helped me immensely with directions. Maybe if she had someone drive with her she wouldn't be so afraid? I hated freeway driving for a long time. I went driving on the freeway with my best friend a couple of times, and then with my significant other, who does lots of driving. Now it doesn't bother me, and the 91 is a horrid freeway to drive. SaveSave
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Post by Zee on Jun 11, 2017 21:33:49 GMT
I think a large part of it was not knowing exactly where I was going, which caused me a lot of anxiety compounded by the fast speeds. Now I can drive across the country alone, all around Chicago, Philly, other urban areas without being scared. I just got more confident by making myself do it. I actually am a lot less scared if I'm the driver, because I'm in control. But I understand the fear. I understand that fear too, and for a while I wouldn't drive the freeway either due to the anxiety of not knowing where I was going. My uncle bought me a Magellen GPS system (this was before the phone map technology was popular) and that helped me immensely with directions. Maybe if she had someone drive with her she wouldn't be so afraid? I hated freeway driving for a long time. I went driving on the freeway with my best friend a couple of time, and then with my significant other, who does lots of driving. Now it doesn't bother me, and the 91 is a horrid freeway to drive. GPS changed my life! I have a horrible sense of direction, and it was so frustrating to try and find places while driving with a map. Mapquest helped my first independent big journey but GPS on my phone is even better. It takes the fear out of things so I can focus on the road.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jun 11, 2017 21:36:41 GMT
It sounds like it may be safer for other drivers if she doesn't drive on the highways since she has such a fear. She'd be more apt to take a bad judgment or mistake. ITA. I don't love driving. And I really dislike driving on certain highways, the one closest to me being one of them. But I do it because I'm not super afraid. More frustrated than anything.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 21:44:55 GMT
I don't care if someone else drives, doesn't drive or only drives in specific conditions such as not on the highway as long as they aren't involving me in their transportation issues in ways that makes it an issue for me.
I had a co-worker in her late 50s who did not drive and she was a terrified passenger to boot. She would clutch the chest strap of the seatbelt so hard she was literally white knuckled even though traffic was light and only moving 35 mph. I would occasionally offer to take her home if the weather was bad or if work caused her to miss her bus (it was an hour between buses) I offered at my convenience. Otherwise, her life choices were just that, hers. Not saying anxiety is a choice (although refusing treatment is a choice) but choosing to live where public transportation is sparse is a choice, choosing to accept a party invitation outside your available transportation routes is also a choice.
As long as she has family/friends who accept her limitations I don't see it my business to comment or have an opinion about it.
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Post by pondrunner on Jun 11, 2017 22:03:23 GMT
I know people who won't drive on the highway. I wouldn't drive that far out of my way to accommodate it unless I had to such as for a funeral. But I see why someone would be afraid of the highway and be unwilling to do it and don't judge one way or the other. Some people have driving anxiety and that's okay.
I didn't have a choice. I had to learn to drive on the freeway in Northern California and if I didn't I wasn't going to get my job, I had to drive from San Jose to Stanford and there is pretty much one reasonable way to do that. So I sucked it up and drive on the freeway. We are moving to D.C. and will have to drive on the beltway. I guess I will figure that out too.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 11, 2017 22:06:54 GMT
In my 20's, I was in a terrible car accident while on the highway, I avoid it wherever possible and I get very anxious if I'm on the highway even as a passenger. My hubby says I'm always looking in the side rear view mirror! So it could be a very valid fear.
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Post by breetheflea on Jun 11, 2017 22:08:56 GMT
I didn't get my license until I was 23. Driving freaked me out and was not fun. I still don't like narrow, windy roads where you have to go into the oncoming lane to pass, I'd actually rather drive on the freeway... except the freeway in the Bay Area where the slow lane is 20 mph over the speed limit. I can only imagine what the freeway in Washington DC is like.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 22:29:19 GMT
I stopped driving highways when I was 30. I had panic attacks. I tried driving expressways but I was terrified. I HATED feeling this way! I tried several times to drive on expressways but the fear was overwhelming.
At age 56 I had to drive into town every day for radiation treatments. I challenged myself to take baby steps and I was driving the expressway by my third radiation treatment. There are areas of the expressway I still avoid. One area is called malfunction junction - no other explanation necessary.
We all have fears, it costs nothing to be kind and respectful.
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Post by Really Red on Jun 11, 2017 22:30:17 GMT
Hmm. Did you ask her? Are you not more impressed that she was so determined to get to that family party and be with people who loved her that she went unbelievably out of her way to get to it?
While I agree that in NORMAL circumstances, it's unusual that someone won't drive on a highway, it's not unheard of. Maybe she likes the time with her dad and vice versa as well?
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jun 11, 2017 22:38:28 GMT
Of course she has anxiety about it. She's never done it. I guess that I don't have sympathy for her because as a 28 year old, I would never have let that happen to me. I would have worked to overcome it. You knowledge about anxiety is about a sound as my knowledge about what runny, green shit taste like so if I were you I would just be quiet at this point...
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Post by momto4kiddos on Jun 11, 2017 22:48:59 GMT
Considering all the extra hours of travel that she did in order to avoid driving there herself on the highway, don't you think she'd have driven the highway if she could? I'd cut her some slack, seems her fear is real to her.
I have an irrational fear of mice, I know it's irrational....but they still scare me. And I feel ridiculous saying that i'm scared of them, but even though I know they're more afraid of me and all the rational things, i'm still fearful of them.
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Post by berty on Jun 11, 2017 22:52:46 GMT
Of course she has anxiety about it. She's never done it. I guess that I don't have sympathy for her because as a 28 year old, I would never have let that happen to me. I would have worked to overcome it. I tend to be someone who can be quick to judge others sometimes. I'm trying to work on it, and remind myself that "there but for the grace of God go I."
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Post by lucyg on Jun 11, 2017 22:56:56 GMT
Of course she has anxiety about it. She's never done it. I guess that I don't have sympathy for her because as a 28 year old, I would never have let that happen to me. I would have worked to overcome it.  How do you know she hasn't worked to overcome it and has been unsuccessful so far? I like being independent and able to drive myself wherever I need to go. But I'm not going to get all up in arms over someone else's phobias. Who cares if her dad is enabling her, if he's happy and she's happy and people outside her family aren't being inconvenienced?
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jun 11, 2017 23:01:33 GMT
"Of course she has anxiety about it. She's never done it. I guess that I don't have sympathy for her because as a 28 year old, I would never have let that happen to me. I would have worked to overcome it."
See, here's the deal. Some people can NOT work to overcome it. It's crippling. It's a mental illness. Everyone has a story. Did you ask about hers?
Ps. tried to fix the quotes, but think I just F'd it up more..sorry Lainey
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 23:02:23 GMT
Just because it's not a fear you have doesn't mean it's not a valid one. I would be giving her credit for finding a way to the party despite not driving and not having someone give her a ride there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 23:13:05 GMT
Of course she has anxiety about it. She's never done it. I guess that I don't have sympathy for her because as a 28 year old, I would never have let that happen to me. I would have worked to overcome it. See, here's the deal. Some people can NOT work to overcome it. It's crippling. It's a mental illness. Everyone has a story. Did you ask about hers? That's not my quote, please amend it so it isn't me that looks like a big old bitch.
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