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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 11, 2017 23:22:03 GMT
DSO's 42yo cousin won't highway drive either, due to anxiety. The difference is she wouldn't expect her family to go so far out of their way to accommodate her. she usually catches a taxi if she has to go anywhere that involves highway driving. Not the long long distances you're talking about though - that trip sounds insane.
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Post by eleezybeth on Jun 11, 2017 23:23:37 GMT
My colleague is a superstar in many areas but doesn't drive on the highway well. She explained that her parents were immigrants and the Capital Beltway scared the bejesus out of them. She learned to drive on all the side roads and never really had to drive above 45 MPH her entire life. She then went to grad school down the road and the trip was about 2 hours. She was petrified. She had to get over it and she is the kind of person who could - but it was a huge challenge for her. It was simply not something she was even slightly accustomed to.
On the other hand, I grew up in the middle of nowhere. Got my license at 14 and was always on a highway. Driving in traffic doesn't bother me even though I did not experience that. We're just different and when we go afar from the office, I drive. She is also horrible at directions though so we are often very lost. LOL!
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Post by craftmepink on Jun 11, 2017 23:29:02 GMT
I live in the DC area, live in Northern Virginia and I understand! The drivers are crazy around here. Since it's mostly a transit area, we get all sorts of bad drivers from around the world, not to mention our own bad drivers from the area. I try not to drive at all driving rush hour, luckily I have to take public transportation for my job.
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Post by craftykitten on Jun 11, 2017 23:33:37 GMT
I live on an island and there are people here who refuse to drive on the mainland. I get it; it's scary and can be overwhelming. I don't think her family are "enabling" her I think they're supporting her so she can attend something that's important to her. I'm pretty sure she'd rather not have all the extra hassle.
It sounds like you have issues with her anyway.. What does her father leaving when she was 4 have to do with this at all?
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Post by scrapaddie on Jun 11, 2017 23:34:58 GMT
If she is not comfortable on the highways, I would prefer that she not drive on them! Heck, I wouldn't drive in Washington DC!!
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Post by inkedup on Jun 11, 2017 23:38:15 GMT
I would much rather a driver with that much anxiety stay off the road than to put herself and others in danger by forcing herself onto the road. I see so many awful, unsafe drivers on the road that probably have no idea of the danger they pose to the rest of us.
It's nice that her family accommodates her.
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 11, 2017 23:42:42 GMT
DH's sister won't drive on the highway. She rarely drives anyway, but after FIL died she would use his car to drive her mom (who doesn't drive) places as long as there was no highway or bridge involved. Not driving really has very little impact on her life as she lives within walking distance to work and in an area with great public transit. It sounds like your cousin may be in a similar situation. If SIL needed a ride she always took responsibility to get herself to the driver's house or a good meeting point and never expected people to go out of their way to get her.
In the last few years I've had terrible anxiety going over certain bridges. Bridges that I used to drive 2-3 times a week without a second thought.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 11, 2017 23:44:04 GMT
Of course she has anxiety about it. She's never done it. I guess that I don't have sympathy for her because as a 28 year old, I would never have let that happen to me. I would have worked to overcome it. ^^^ I guess I don't understand being in that situation because I grew up in a small town with NO public transportation at all. You either learned to drive, or you didn't go anywhere. And I don't know the area, but it sure sounds like she could have gotten to / from the event by easier means than going a couple hundred miles the wrong direction.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Jun 11, 2017 23:49:00 GMT
Of course she has anxiety about it. She's never done it. I guess that I don't have sympathy for her because as a 28 year old, I would never have let that happen to me. I would have worked to overcome it. Mental illness is exactly that--an illness. A schizophrenic cannot work to overcome the voices in their head just like a epileptic can't talk themselves out of a seizure or diabetic can't talk themselves out of needing insulin. There could be chemical imbalances or faulty brain wiring causing her to feel like she's literally going to die if she merges onto a highway. If she's a special snowflake who wants VIP treatment and daddy to be her chauffer, come back and share and we'll grab our pitch forks. But since we don't know her situation, I'd try to be sympathetic.
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Post by basketdiva on Jun 11, 2017 23:54:23 GMT
Of course she has anxiety about it. She's never done it. I guess that I don't have sympathy for her because as a 28 year old, I would never have let that happen to me. I would have worked to overcome it. Glad to see you are an understanding person I have tried to overcome my freeway anxiety and to no avail. I moved back to an area I tad lived 10 years ago and there are roundabouts all over the area- some double. It took me a long time to feel comfortable using them but if I have a choice, I'll go another way. Not everyone is cut out to be a driver. BTW- I'm in my 60's.
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Post by candygurl on Jun 12, 2017 0:06:31 GMT
I was like that for many years before i took a highway. For me I had no reason to drive on a highway. I finally did it and tried it at when it wasn't busy and I survived lol. I still don't like it and only stay in the far 2 right lanes on the highway.
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Post by Mystie on Jun 12, 2017 0:59:14 GMT
I can see all the sides of this. I wasn't truly comfortable driving on freeways till I was almost 40. I did it and I was fine, but I wasn't comfortable. I'm still not comfortable in huge cities...in fact, my husband and I are driving to PA from VA this coming weekend and you can bet I'll be making him do the Beltway part around DC. But I had to learn, and eventually get comfortable, because I had no choice. I haven't lived close to my family in my entire adult life, and my parents in particular live in an area with no train and no close airport. If I couldn't drive the freeways, I would have only seen my family when my husband had vacation time and could take me. And I had to learn how to get around in all the places I've lived, and that meant learning the freeways, even when I could do most of my stuff on back streets and roads. Eventually the freeway is unavoidable! Now my mom and my sister have lived in the same place their whole lives and they do not drive on the freeway (it's a rural area, you don't have to) and they have no sense of direction whatsoever. My sister has improved slightly because of having to drive for her current job, but Mom can get around about a 30-mile radius of home, and that's it. I don't recommend this lifestyle. My dad was very ill about 6 years ago, and in a larger hospital about an hour from their home. I was at home and every day I would drive Mom out to the hospital to see Dad and coach her on how to do it, because I was going to have to go home sooner or later and we didn't know when Dad would get out or how often he would have to go back. The drive was literally this: Pull out of the driveway onto the road. Stay on that road for about 45 minutes. Hop on a freeway for about 5 minutes. Hop off the freeway and park at the hospital. And I had to coach her repeatedly through the drive: see this landmark, see this landmark, now this is the number of the highway you want, etc. (She did learn it, which was good because Dad got very sick again in 2015 and she had to drive him out to that hospital a LOT.) I just posted in another thread about maybe having to drive from VA to Ohio and then drive my parents out west for a memorial service. Mom can't do it, and Dad can't either because of his illness. They're both in their late 60s, not old. But you go out of your way for the people you love. So I can see it from your relative's dad's and brother's point of view, too. Man, that was a long boring post, sorry. Bottom line is, I think people (esp. women) need to be able to get around. Most of the time, still, in the U.S., that means needing to be able to drive, and drive on highways. And the corollary is, you need to know where you are and where you want to go and how to get there, whether that's reading a paper map or a map app. And it's inconvenient at best and crippling at worst when you can't. No matter how accommodating your family is.  (This is apart from a mental illness issue, of course.)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 1:05:44 GMT
I lived in DC for four years. I completely understand why she wouldn't want to drive on the highways in that part of the country. I'm from Texas where we have wide open roads, people pull over on the shoulder to let you pass on a two lane highway (or used to when I was growing up), we waved at each other, and speed limits were still fast but we didn't drive crazy. When I arriving in the melting pot of Washington DC I had to make myself have a mental shift to drive on the offensive, not the defensive because the drivers were crazy! And BTW - I also learned in DC that easterners cannot drive on ice any better than drivers from the south. 
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Post by melanell on Jun 12, 2017 1:12:33 GMT
I know a few people who will not highway drive. And, while, at this point, all 3 of them are older than 28, they wouldn't highway drive when they were 28, either.
They all find ways around it.
I think that as long as she is not expecting or badgering people to change their plans to work around her fears, then it's fine if she wants to find rides, take public transportation, or drive alternate routes. The extra time it takes is her time, and obviously she prioritizes not driving the highway over traveling a shorter amount of time. And in this situation her family obviously puts her attendance at a higher priority than a shorter travel time.
I have always disliked driving in high traffic areas. I will drive highways in general, but I will absolutely take alternate routes if I can avoid really busy areas---like big cities or the beltways around big cities. And now that I have vision issues that have placed limitations on my driving, I find I am even more likely to seek out slower, quieter routes to get from place to another. And while this may not be my fear, heights are, so I do get being just petrified by something to the point that you will not do it. So I can sympathize and empathize with her.
Plus, I really feel that if she is that terrified to drive on the highway, then it's possibly or even probably safer for everyone if she avoids it unless she reaches a point where she can handle the fear a bit more easily.
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Post by rickmer on Jun 12, 2017 1:12:48 GMT
didn't read all the replies and i totally understand driving anxiety. i have had mine, my brother's GF has issues with some highway stuff so i have empathy.
although i have a friend and her sister drives her 25 year old daughter to work each day. she lives 50mins away from her workplace...mainly highway driving. the mom often hangs out at a local mall and then drives her home. yes, some public transit is available (ie. mom could drive her to train station and pick her up - 15 mins from their house) but the daughter prefers just being driven. btw, the daughter owns not one... but two cars!!!
i am a believer that if you life doesn't suit your life, then you need to make some adjustments, it at all possible. in OPs case, if she wants to do all that, go out of her way and people have agreed to help her, then have at it.
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Post by melanell on Jun 12, 2017 1:16:33 GMT
I understand her fear. Driving on the highway, specifically the Capital Beltway, in and around Washington, DC is traumatizing. I learned to drive on the Beltway years ago, and you couldn't pay me to drive it anymore. I'm not real crazy about riding on it anymore. It's beyond nerve wracking, especially if you're a nervous driver. Better that she not get behind the wheel of a car with that kind of anxiety. Not everyone is cut out to drive. I hate riding on it, too. Hate it with a passion. I totally understand how you feel. Save
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Post by monklady123 on Jun 12, 2017 1:18:22 GMT
I lived in DC for four years. I completely understand why she wouldn't want to drive on the highways in that part of the country. I'm from Texas where we have wide open roads, people pull over on the shoulder to let you pass on a two lane highway (or used to when I was growing up), we waved at each other, and speed limits were still fast but we didn't drive crazy. When I arriving in the melting pot of Washington DC I had to make myself have a mental shift to drive on the offensive, not the defensive because the drivers were crazy! And BTW - I also learned in DC that easterners cannot drive on ice any better than drivers from the south. Lol. That's because half the people here aren't really "easterners", they're from somewhere else where there's no snow or ice. Often from other countries even so they're learning "winter" plus learning how to drive here. Or they're coming from some country where driving is wild, like Nigeria or Russia. I figure that our kids who learn to drive here are going to be either very good drivers or they'll be scarred for life. lol
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Post by scrappinmama on Jun 12, 2017 1:23:39 GMT
If someone is scared to get on the freeway then they shouldn't. I've seen nervous drivers on a freeway before. They hesitate when trying to merge. They press their brakes rather than go faster to meet the speed of the cars on the freeway. They can cause an accident driving like that.
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Post by melanell on Jun 12, 2017 1:26:42 GMT
I understand, I was like this until I was about 24. I finally overcame my fear by taking a trip to see my sister by myself playing CDs of music I really liked and found empowering. Then I drove up to see my dad in Chicago. From there it all got much easier. I think a large part of it was not knowing exactly where I was going, which caused me a lot of anxiety compounded by the fast speeds. Now I can drive across the country alone, all around Chicago, Philly, other urban areas without being scared. I just got more confident by making myself do it. I actually am a lot less scared if I'm the driver, because I'm in control. But I understand the fear. Congrats on figuring out exactly what part was the most frightening to you and trying to find a way to make it easier for yourself!  That's really great.  For me, it's not the unknown areas, but the other drivers. I simply am afraid of the other drivers. I have always been a defensive driver, but as the years go by, I feel like I see worse and worse driving. And of course, since cell phones and later texting came to be, I see so many distracted drivers everyday due to cell phones alone. (Unfortunately we do not have laws about hand free phone usage here yet.) So, of course, the busier the traffic, the more "other drivers". Which is why I try to avoid certain areas at rush-hour times and why I hate to drive near big cities. Save
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Post by melanell on Jun 12, 2017 1:32:08 GMT
See, here's the deal. Some people can NOT work to overcome it. It's crippling. It's a mental illness. Everyone has a story. Did you ask about hers? That's not my quote, please amend it so it isn't me that looks like a big old bitch. This happens sometimes and I don't know why. But when it happened to me it was the same type of situation...someone said something I disagreed with, I posted to disagree, and then alter the board twisted everything up and when someone else tried to quote me it credited the original post that I totally disagreed with to me! I was so upset, because it was something I NEVER would have said! I'm sorry it's happened to you, now. Save
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Post by M~ on Jun 12, 2017 1:37:22 GMT
Hi my name is M~ and I've never driven on highways. I'm blind in one eye. Well. Legally blind anyway. I have problems with gauging depth due to the eye injury and resulting lack of sight. I hate driving. I break out in a cold sweat even thinking of driving in a highway. My peripheral vision is shit. I have enough money to hire someone to teach me to drive in highways but I would feel terrible if I hurt someone. That is my real concern. Well. Hurting myself wouldn't be fun but hurting someone else would be unfair.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 12, 2017 1:37:36 GMT
I hate driving on the beltway! With regard to the OP, some people are just frightened of driving, or driving in certain places. I will drive around Cleveland; I will NOT drive in Pittsburgh. I will happily drive on freeways, curvy, steep roads; I do not like city traffic. Just accept it. Some people are afraid of heights, some are afraid of spiders, etc.
My mom was fearless, except for driving. She had a fender bender once, and after that resisted driving. If we did get her behind the wheel, she was white-knuckled. No talking, no music,nothing. She never got over it.
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Post by darkchami on Jun 12, 2017 1:41:00 GMT
Of course she has anxiety about it. She's never done it. I guess that I don't have sympathy for her because as a 28 year old, I would never have let that happen to me. I would have worked to overcome it. Glad to see you are an understanding person I have tried to overcome my freeway anxiety and to no avail. I moved back to an area I tad lived 10 years ago and there are roundabouts all over the area- some double. It took me a long time to feel comfortable using them but if I have a choice, I'll go another way. Not everyone is cut out to be a driver. BTW- I'm in my 60's. I am right there with you. I have tried to get over my driving anxiety for well over a decade. I have made progress, but there are still some things I just cannot do. Roundabouts are now manageable. However, I won't drive in big cities. I think some people believe all anxiety is the same. Public speaking gives me anxiety. Still, I have spoken to the state congress and presented at national conferences. It's a low level anxiety that I can push through. Driving can give me all out panic attacks. Not all anxiety is equal.
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Post by stingfan on Jun 12, 2017 1:44:40 GMT
Fine, she doesn't want to drive. I get that. I don't get why she didn't just take a bus/train directly to and from Harrisburg. Did you actually speak to her about this?
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Post by melanell on Jun 12, 2017 1:50:55 GMT
Hi my name is M~ and I've never driven on highways. I'm blind in one eye. Well. Legally blind anyway. I have problems with gauging depth due to the eye injury and resulting lack of sight. I hate driving. I break out in a cold sweat even thinking of driving in a highway. My peripheral vision is shit. I have enough money to hire someone to teach me to drive in highways but I would feel terrible if I hurt someone. That is my real concern. Well. Hurting myself wouldn't be fun but hurting someone else would be unfair. I injured my right eye a few years back and it has made a tremendous difference in my ability to drive and my feelings about driving. I'm extremely light sensitive in that eye now, the vision is very poor and cannot be corrected, and reflections at night or off of snow or rain are brutal. So I went from driving in most conditions to no longer being able to drive in anything other than dry, daytime conditions with gigantic sunglasses on, even on overcast days. And that change has definitely made me a much more nervous driver. I was already distrustful of other drivers, but now, it's worse, because I don't trust them, and I am now afraid that I won't notice them doing something stupid as quickly as I might have before my injury. It's definitely taken the joy of driving from me. Before, at least on less busy roads I really enjoyed a road trip. Now I never drive just to drive. I only drive if I have to. And even when other people are driving, I find that because I can't see things approaching on my right side, when I do see them they're right there and it startles me. So now in any sort of merging or multi-lane situation, even if I'm just a passenger I'm nervous. Save
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Post by katlady on Jun 12, 2017 1:51:19 GMT
Fine, she doesn't want to drive. I get that. I don't get why she didn't just take a bus/train directly to and from Harrisburg. Did you actually speak to her about this? Maybe it was a way to spend some extra time with her brother and dad. It does seem like a roundabout way, but it seems like all parties involved were ok with the arrangements.
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Post by M~ on Jun 12, 2017 2:18:08 GMT
Hi my name is M~ and I've never driven on highways. I'm blind in one eye. Well. Legally blind anyway. I have problems with gauging depth due to the eye injury and resulting lack of sight. I hate driving. I break out in a cold sweat even thinking of driving in a highway. My peripheral vision is shit. I have enough money to hire someone to teach me to drive in highways but I would feel terrible if I hurt someone. That is my real concern. Well. Hurting myself wouldn't be fun but hurting someone else would be unfair. I injured my right eye a few years back and it has made a tremendous difference in my ability to drive and my feelings about driving. I'm extremely light sensitive in that eye now, the vision is very poor and cannot be corrected, and reflections at night or off of snow or rain are brutal. So I went from driving in most conditions to no longer being able to drive in anything other than dry, daytime conditions with gigantic sunglasses on, even on overcast days. And that change has definitely made me a much more nervous driver. I was already distrustful of other drivers, but now, it's worse, because I don't trust them, and I am now afraid that I won't notice them doing something stupid as quickly as I might have before my injury. It's definitely taken the joy of driving from me. Before, at least on less busy roads I really enjoyed a road trip. Now I never drive just to drive. I only drive if I have to. And even when other people are driving, I find that because I can't see things approaching on my right side, when I do see them they're right there and it startles me. So now in any sort of merging or multi-lane situation, even if I'm just a passenger I'm nervous. SaveI've neve driven just to drive. I avoid turns on my right side because that's my injured side. I avoid driving at night or inclement weather. Merging sucks lemons I avoid changing to the right lane if at all possible so I've memorized traffic patterns in various roads- i.e. When are there buses etc. I always either drive to slow or too fast. My pupil doesn't contract so the summer here in Miami is a nightmare for me. I wear glasses because contacts make me see double, so my glasses are those that automatically turn dark. But they're never dark enough. I also park on my seeing side-I have chronic pain in my neck from turning at such a sharp angle to be able to see with my left eye. I'm so sorry. I get it.
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Post by melanell on Jun 12, 2017 3:00:49 GMT
I injured my right eye a few years back and it has made a tremendous difference in my ability to drive and my feelings about driving. I'm extremely light sensitive in that eye now, the vision is very poor and cannot be corrected, and reflections at night or off of snow or rain are brutal. So I went from driving in most conditions to no longer being able to drive in anything other than dry, daytime conditions with gigantic sunglasses on, even on overcast days. And that change has definitely made me a much more nervous driver. I was already distrustful of other drivers, but now, it's worse, because I don't trust them, and I am now afraid that I won't notice them doing something stupid as quickly as I might have before my injury. It's definitely taken the joy of driving from me. Before, at least on less busy roads I really enjoyed a road trip. Now I never drive just to drive. I only drive if I have to. And even when other people are driving, I find that because I can't see things approaching on my right side, when I do see them they're right there and it startles me. So now in any sort of merging or multi-lane situation, even if I'm just a passenger I'm nervous. SaveI've neve driven just to drive. I avoid turns on my right side because that's my injured side. I avoid driving at night or inclement weather. Merging sucks lemons I avoid changing to the right lane if at all possible so I've memorized traffic patterns in various roads- i.e. When are there buses etc. I always either drive to slow or too fast. My pupil doesn't contract so the summer here in Miami is a nightmare for me. I wear glasses because contacts make me see double, so my glasses are those that automatically turn dark. But they're never dark enough. I also park on my seeing side-I have chronic pain in my neck from turning at such a sharp angle to be able to see with my left eye. I'm so sorry. I get it. I'm so sorry, too. I never even thought about how it could lead to other issues such as your neck pain. That's awful.  I can't wear a contact in the injured eye, either. So I get how frustrating that is.  I can't even imagine how difficult it must be to have your pupil always dilated. Hugs! Save
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Post by maryland on Jun 12, 2017 3:07:36 GMT
It sounds like it may be safer for other drivers if she doesn't drive on the highways since she has such a fear. She'd be more apt to take a bad judgment or mistake. That makes sense. If someone is too nervous to drive on the highway (but wants to be able to), he or she could maybe take some driving courses with a driver to help.
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Post by maryland on Jun 12, 2017 3:13:21 GMT
I understand her fear. Driving on the highway, specifically the Capital Beltway, in and around Washington, DC is traumatizing. I learned to drive on the Beltway years ago, and you couldn't pay me to drive it anymore. I'm not real crazy about riding on it anymore. It's beyond nerve wracking, especially if you're a nervous driver. Better that she not get behind the wheel of a car with that kind of anxiety. Not everyone is cut out to drive. I travel home to DC a lot from Pittsburgh and we take another way to avoid the beltway. There always seems to be so much traffic and many drivers drive like it's their first time in a car. My daughters best friend from home also goes to college in the DC area and has her car there. She drives the beltway all the time. I told her that even though she is just 19, I trust her to drive my kids around when she is back in Pgh. because she has a lot of defensive driving experience!
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