JustTricia
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Post by JustTricia on Apr 13, 2018 16:10:17 GMT
I haven’t watched the vlog, but vlogs are extremely popular.most of the time they have a specific angle, but they are just a person talking about their day to a screen.
If I remember correctly, she sold her own supplies, not the leftovers. But people felt she could have taken those on the trip with her instead of soliciting free donations.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 13, 2018 18:50:34 GMT
So she got people to donate scrappy items so she could take them on a mission then sold the leftovers?!! Should've been clearer, my mistake! She begged and begged and begged (seriously, a +20 if not +30 minute video) for scrap supplies for those poor women. She pleaded her case, used every weapon in the pathos arsenal to make it sound like we would be helping to save their livelihoods, asked for specific and expensive stuff too (like stamps and stamping tools if my memory serves me well). It was of the "anything you can spare!" type. She went on about how she was trying to bring over stuff from her own stash but that wouldn't be enough and so on. Cue a few months later and now that her couple of weeks of mission abroad are well and truly over, the whole narrative had disappeared. Suddenly, she had a lot of stuff to get rid of in her stash and auctioning it off to her subscribers, promoting the auction left and right on social media and YouTube. It was major "Guuuuuuurl!" moment. I have a soft spot protectiveness for girls who have self-esteem issues. Women, like Tori & Tracie it is clear as writing on the wall they are the girls you try to befriend and find out they are manipulative as all get out and ego monsters. Oh, dear @amayalylac, how true your words ring. How many times have I not felt sorry and protective over someone who I thought was left out and done everything to include only to realise a few weeks later I'd made a grave mistake. And this tendency goes back to my childhood. Been there and done that so many times. I'm more discerning these days and definitely try to spot the "orange" flags before it's too late and the red ones get hoisted. Fragile egos often lead to the worst manipulators, you're so right! Fortunately, I've also made some great friends this way. Definitely needles in the self-esteem haystack though. I can’t watch Tori. She needs therapy and a real job. But but but... she works at her mother's business and she has an assistant! And her assistant once left her a card on her desk and it was so sweet (there's 10 minutes dedicated to retelling that crazy tale in some video on her channel but you couldn't pay me enough money to go fish for it). And no therapy! God is the answer. Yep, I totally zoomed in on her Paperwhite in the vlog and randomly picked a sentence, typed it out in Google only to see it was one of those self-help books that tells women to hand over their worries and issues to God and trust him to take care of them. Le sigh.
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scrappyesq
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Post by scrappyesq on Apr 13, 2018 19:36:38 GMT
So she got people to donate scrappy items so she could take them on a mission then sold the leftovers?!! Should've been clearer, my mistake! She begged and begged and begged (seriously, a +20 if not +30 minute video) for scrap supplies for those poor women. She pleaded her case, used every weapon in the pathos arsenal to make it sound like we would be helping to save their livelihoods, asked for specific and expensive stuff too (like stamps and stamping tools if my memory serves me well). It was of the "anything you can spare!" type. She went on about how she was trying to bring over stuff from her own stash but that wouldn't be enough and so on. Cue a few months later and now that her couple of weeks of mission abroad are well and truly over, the whole narrative had disappeared. Suddenly, she had a lot of stuff to get rid of in her stash and auctioning it off to her subscribers, promoting the auction left and right on social media and YouTube. It was major "Guuuuuuurl!" moment. I have a soft spot protectiveness for girls who have self-esteem issues. Women, like Tori & Tracie it is clear as writing on the wall they are the girls you try to befriend and find out they are manipulative as all get out and ego monsters. Oh, dear @amayalylac, how true your words ring. How many times have I not felt sorry and protective over someone who I thought was left out and done everything to include only to realise a few weeks later I'd made a grave mistake. And this tendency goes back to my childhood. Been there and done that so many times. I'm more discerning these days and definitely try to spot the "orange" flags before it's too late and the red ones get hoisted. Fragile egos often lead to the worst manipulators, you're so right! Fortunately, I've also made some great friends this way. Definitely needles in the self-esteem haystack though. I can’t watch Tori. She needs therapy and a real job. But but but... she works at her mother's business and she has an assistant! And her assistant once left her a card on her desk and it was so sweet (there's 10 minutes dedicated to retelling that crazy tale in some video on her channel but you couldn't pay me enough money to go fish for it). And no therapy! God is the answer. Yep, I totally zoomed in on her Paperwhite in the vlog and randomly picked a sentence, typed it out in Google only to see it was one of those self-help books that tells women to hand over their worries and issues to God and trust him to take care of them. Le sigh. I wonder if tori still comes here.
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Post by scrappysue222 on Apr 14, 2018 4:10:42 GMT
I watched a little bit of the vlog where I could tell they were in the classroom (with Tracie teaching). It doesn't look like there are very many people in attendance. Like maybe 12? What do you all think?
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dawnnikol
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Post by dawnnikol on Apr 14, 2018 11:27:13 GMT
I wonder if tori still comes here. I'm pretty sure she said she would never be back, but left her personal phone number in case we wanted to talk to her IRL.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 14, 2018 12:35:12 GMT
I wonder if tori still comes here. I'm pretty sure she said she would never be back, but left her personal phone number in case we wanted to talk to her IRL. Maybe she lurks every once in a while... Hi Tori! And hi Tracie! Wouldn't want you to feel left out and like your thread's been taken over by another wannabe scrap celebrity.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 14:52:22 GMT
I watched a little bit of the vlog where I could tell they were in the classroom (with Tracie teaching). It doesn't look like there are very many people in attendance. Like maybe 12? What do you all think? That was the most interesting part to me. I've always wanted to see what these cruises looked like, how many people, what the rooms were like, etc. It looks terribly poorly lit, empty and sad. I pictured a room w/windows to look out onto the view and MANY MANY more crafters and energy. I'm so glad I never got serious about spending my time and money on something like that. But that's me. I'm sure there were many who enjoyed it very much. It was just good to finally see what it all looked like.
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Post by mom on Apr 14, 2018 15:23:25 GMT
so, re: the Scrap Gals Seattle Retreat. They've sold 60 spots @ $350 (with 25 seats left). Thats a whopping (as of right now) $21,000 for a two day crop. 2 classes - one with Tiff and one with Paige Evans. Lunch and Dinner are provided both days. You can read more HERE.
Thoughts??
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 14, 2018 15:25:32 GMT
I watched a little bit of the vlog where I could tell they were in the classroom (with Tracie teaching). It doesn't look like there are very many people in attendance. Like maybe 12? What do you all think? That was the most interesting part to me. I've always wanted to see what these cruises looked like, how many people, what the rooms were like, etc. It looks terribly poorly lit, empty and sad. I pictured a room w/windows to look out onto the view and MANY MANY more crafters and energy. I'm so glad I never got serious about spending my time and money on something like that. But that's me. I'm sure there were many who enjoyed it very much. It was just good to finally see what it all looked like. I counted 15 participants in that class. How is that enough to justify a cruise? Anyone else wondering why Tracie's husband + daughter were with her on the cruise? Could their trip be written (partially) off through tax deduction if they're hired as her assistants for the cruise?
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Post by mom on Apr 14, 2018 15:26:51 GMT
That was the most interesting part to me. I've always wanted to see what these cruises looked like, how many people, what the rooms were like, etc. It looks terribly poorly lit, empty and sad. I pictured a room w/windows to look out onto the view and MANY MANY more crafters and energy. I'm so glad I never got serious about spending my time and money on something like that. But that's me. I'm sure there were many who enjoyed it very much. It was just good to finally see what it all looked like. I counted 15 participants in that class. How is that enough to justify a cruise? Anyone else wondering why Tracie's husband + daughter were with her on the cruise? Could their trip be written (partially) off through tax deduction if they're hired as her assistants for the cruise? I was actually just thinking about taxes and the Scrap Gals. I wonder if they are claiming all this on taxes? I say no.
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Post by QueSeraSera on Apr 14, 2018 15:34:46 GMT
I'd bet she writes it all off. She posted something on Instagram about gathering receipts for tax prep. Yes I bet she wrote she off her family as assistants. At least her daughter, maybe not the hubby.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 14, 2018 15:38:26 GMT
so, re: the Scrap Gals Seattle Retreat. They've sold 60 spots @ $350 (with 25 seats left). Thats a whopping (as of right now) $21,000 for a two day crop. 2 classes - one with Tiff and one with Paige Evans. Lunch and Dinner are provided both days. What the scrap? Paige Evans has got to be the main pull, right? Also, kind of surprised they didn't sell out yet with such a big name attached to the event. I know her style is a little OTT and samesy but Paige is one heck of a crafter with great attention to detail.
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oaksong
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Post by oaksong on Apr 14, 2018 15:57:00 GMT
so, re: the Scrap Gals Seattle Retreat. They've sold 60 spots @ $350 (with 25 seats left). Thats a whopping (as of right now) $21,000 for a two day crop. 2 classes - one with Tiff and one with Paige Evans. Lunch and Dinner are provided both days. You can read more HERE.
Thoughts?? Too bad Tracie is such a tool. The retreats look fun. If someone else was organizing/presenting, I would love to go sometime.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 14, 2018 16:02:09 GMT
Ya know, this is very much like the 9x12 album situation right now: there's a major disconnect with the market and one party alone is benefiting from being the sole provider.
Seriously, we need to start a podcast and do international retreats or something. *punk mode ON*
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Post by oaksong on Apr 14, 2018 16:06:17 GMT
Ya know, this is very much like the 9x12 album situation right now: there's a major disconnect with the market and one party alone is benefiting from being the sole provider. Seriously, we need to start a podcast and do international retreats or something. *punk mode ON* Yes! In the south of France!
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 14, 2018 16:10:33 GMT
Seriously, we need to start a podcast and do international retreats or something. *punk mode ON* Yes! In the south of France! Oh Dog, we'll never make any money à la Tracie! I'll spend every euro cent left on food and wine for the attendees. "Tipsy Mini Album with La Booty from 9PM until way past midnight: proper rosé from Provence and gossip provided free of charge"
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Post by refugeepea on Apr 14, 2018 17:26:10 GMT
I'm so glad I never got serious about spending my time and money on something like that. so, re: the Scrap Gals Seattle Retreat. They've sold 60 spots @ $350 (with 25 seats left). Thats a whopping (as of right now) $21,000 for a two day crop. 2 classes - one with Tiff and one with Paige Evans. Lunch and Dinner are provided both days. You can read more HERE.
Thoughts?? $350.00 will buy a LOT of scrappy supplies! I've never taken a class or been to a crop because I think of all the paper I could buy instead. It helps that I'm a simple scrapper. If I ever had the chance to go on a cruise, I'd be by the pool reading a book, stuffing myself full of food, and just about anything else but scrapping.
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Post by mom on Apr 14, 2018 17:47:41 GMT
I'm so glad I never got serious about spending my time and money on something like that. so, re: the Scrap Gals Seattle Retreat. They've sold 60 spots @ $350 (with 25 seats left). Thats a whopping (as of right now) $21,000 for a two day crop. 2 classes - one with Tiff and one with Paige Evans. Lunch and Dinner are provided both days. You can read more HERE.
Thoughts?? $350.00 will buy a LOT of scrappy supplies! I've never taken a class or been to a crop because I think of all the paper I could buy instead. It helps that I'm a simple scrapper. If I ever had the chance to go on a cruise, I'd be by the pool reading a book, stuffing myself full of food, and just about anything else but scrapping. What kills me is that it doesn't even cover their rooms. That's another $300-ish on top of what the crop costs. And if I remember correctly, the hotel is a Holiday Inn Express so not even a nicer hotel with snazzy bar, pool, etc. I dunno. I am pretty loose with my money and don't mind paying for nice things. But this just feels over priced.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 14, 2018 18:04:06 GMT
If I were to host fellow scrappers in my home region, I'd turn into several days of travel to get to know the actual place and then 1 1/2-2 days of relax & retreat to make a mini album/TN documenting the travel itself. If I knew people would be spending travel + hotel cash for a scrappy retreat, I'd make it worth their while. I'd be a terrible money maker in this venture but I'd make sure that anyone trusting me with some of their vacation time + leisure budget would be getting the max out of their investment.
This is a shrinking community with shrinking budgets but the community's lovely, the crafters passionate and the worthwhile opportunities not that many.
You are all welcome in my region if you ever want to actually travel + document. I might be a crappy scrapper, but I'm madly in love with the craft, storytelling, bringing people together and Provence. You bet I'd turn this into several days of travel + 2 days of relax & retreat to document the actual travel in a mini album/TN. This is about memory-keeping, so if people are going to travel to see you, you ought to go the extra mile to return the favour, I say.
One day, one day, ladies, we'll have our Pea retreat.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Apr 14, 2018 18:13:07 GMT
so, re: the Scrap Gals Seattle Retreat. They've sold 60 spots @ $350 (with 25 seats left). Thats a whopping (as of right now) $21,000 for a two day crop. 2 classes - one with Tiff and one with Paige Evans. Lunch and Dinner are provided both days. You can read more HERE.
Thoughts?? Most definitely not my cuppa. Too much time wasted "getting to know each other." I'd be curious to know exactly what you get for $350 considering you have to pay for the flights and hotel. I find it hard to believe that Tracie (who admits she no longer scrapbooks) is offering anything worth that amount. As much as I enjoy Paige's lines and watching her videos, I wouldn't pay any scrap celeb $350 for a class.
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Post by mom on Apr 14, 2018 18:35:37 GMT
so, re: the Scrap Gals Seattle Retreat. They've sold 60 spots @ $350 (with 25 seats left). Thats a whopping (as of right now) $21,000 for a two day crop. 2 classes - one with Tiff and one with Paige Evans. Lunch and Dinner are provided both days. You can read more HERE.
Thoughts?? Most definitely not my cuppa. Too much time wasted "getting to know each other." I'd be curious to know exactly what you get for $350 considering you have to pay for the flights and hotel. I find it hard to believe that Tracie (who admits she no longer scrapbooks) is offering anything worth that amount. As much as I enjoy Paige's lines and watching her videos, I wouldn't pay any scrap celeb $350 for a class. Well since you asked, you get: Friday, 7/27: Friday evening we'll have a fun pizza party, do a craft and play a get-to-know-you game. We'll give out some goodies, pick a spot and get our supplies in order for the weekend. Saturday, 7/28: Our guest instructor, the amazing Paige Evans, will start our day off with a two hour class. She'll guide us through two single page layouts using yummy goodies from one of her collections with American Crafts. After lunch, Tracie will teach a class called "Crafty Girl." We'll make a multi-page layout celebrating our love for crafting. We'll have giveaways and goodies for all and lots of crop time. Lunch and dinner will be provided. Sunday, 7/29: We'll kick off the morning with a group photo in our Scrap Gals t-shirts. After lunch, Tiffany will teach a three hour workshop called "The Care and Keeping of You." We'll craft in a custom Traveler's Notebook insert AND make a layout. Tiffany will give us lots of instruction on telling our own stories and how to write effectively. We'll play " Who Knows the Scrap Gals Best?" and the winner gets a special prize. Following a lovely dinner, we'll have more crop time and fun crafting. Lunch and dinner will be provided.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 14, 2018 18:46:21 GMT
So Sunday morning is essentially just group photo time?
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Post by mom on Apr 14, 2018 18:52:18 GMT
So Sunday morning is essentially just group photo time? buuuuuuuuttttt.....matching tshirts! #duh
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Post by Charwee on Apr 14, 2018 19:28:54 GMT
If I were to host fellow scrappers in my home region, I'd turn into several days of travel to get to know the actual place and then 1 1/2-2 days of relax & retreat to make a mini album/TN documenting the travel itself. If I knew people would be spending travel + hotel cash for a scrappy retreat, I'd make it worth their while. I'd be a terrible money maker in this venture but I'd make sure that anyone trusting me with some of their vacation time + leisure budget would be getting the max out of their investment. This is a shrinking community with shrinking budgets but the community's lovely, the crafters passionate and the worthwhile opportunities not that many. You are all welcome in my region if you ever want to actually travel + document. I might be a crappy scrapper, but I'm madly in love with the craft, storytelling, bringing people together and Provence. You bet I'd turn this into several days of travel + 2 days of relax & retreat to document the actual travel in a mini album/TN. This is about memory-keeping, so if people are going to travel to see you, you ought to go the extra mile to return the favour, I say. One day, one day, ladies, we'll have our Pea retreat. I would totally go to a retreat like that! It sounds like heaven. And the concept is solid gold.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Apr 14, 2018 21:26:08 GMT
So Sunday morning is essentially just group photo time? Tracie probably has to approve the photos before they are published. It might be worth $350 just to take unflattering photos and posting them everywhere. But I can be petty like that.
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Post by mom on Apr 14, 2018 21:29:10 GMT
So Sunday morning is essentially just group photo time? Tracie probably has to approve the photos before they are published. It might be worth $350 just to take unflattering photos and posting them everywhere. But I can be petty like that. I'd chip in for that.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 14, 2018 21:36:56 GMT
Tracie probably has to approve the photos before they are published. It might be worth $350 just to take unflattering photos and posting them everywhere. But I can be petty like that. I'd chip in for that. Paypal donations for a noble cause.
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Post by artisticscrapper on Apr 14, 2018 22:47:18 GMT
According to the link the Scrap Gals are hosting Creative Escape. Wasn’t that the name of Heidi Swapp’s retreat? How I wish there were a retreat like the one sleepingbooty described. I’d totally start saving up for that.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Apr 14, 2018 22:50:01 GMT
Paypal donations for a noble cause. And I can “just happen to mention” the donate button with every post. Then I let y’all know that I was gifted the registration fee. But I’ll use the money to pay off other debt. Cool?! 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 14, 2018 23:03:59 GMT
Paypal donations for a noble cause. And I can “just happen to mention” the donate button with every post. Then I let y’all know that I was gifted the registration fee. But I’ll use the money to pay off other debt. Cool?! 🤷🏻♀️ Don't forget to send pics from Disney World with your new iPad Pro!
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