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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 8:31:39 GMT
Her whole description of this retreat is based around food. Pizza Party. Paige Evans quickly will show you something and then we will eat. Tiffany & I will talk and then we will eat. Every single retreat Tracie puts out is so food centered. I am not being snarky. Tracie, why are you not doing something food centric? Like a food retreat. You seem to really enjoy being a foodie. You don't scrap anymore. You get beyond hurt we think your a grifter in this industry. Why just not leave an industry that is really not warm to you any more and go into an industry that you have a passion for and truly like? Really Tracie you only have yourself to blame for looking like you are trying to take advantage of and steal from women in this industry. It looks predatory like you go around and hunt for these kind of things. You don't really like the industry and seem to scoff at it. I really think you need to pray on this. I am not being snarky. Take some time for reflection on the kind of woman you want to be. Do you really want to go to heaven someday and face your King. He knows the kind of reputation you made for yourself? Do you want to face your King and be proud of the path he gave you? You could be respected and talked well about in the food world. Or, you could have this and the this I mean is a going on 30 plus page thread on the horrible person you want to show us. I can't imagine anyone would be proud of something like that. This is not the kind of attention getting you want. Tracie, I will be forward about something too. This thread could come back to haunt your beautiful daughter too. Somebody could ask her someday about it. I know you love your baby very much. I know it would pain you for her to answer. I remember how proud you were of her on the old 2Peas board. This is the only nice thing I will say in this thread for you. Nobody pick on me either about this. Really super bad week. I want to vent so bad on NSBR and I can't because my stalking case reared it's ugly head again and that's the minor issue for this week. I am one step away from my breaking point. This whole Tracie thing just gets me. Every single friggin day I have to fight to survive in my life. I see people like her who just want to throw it away. I never ever will get it.
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 15, 2018 16:07:50 GMT
Ya know, this is very much like the 9x12 album situation right now: there's a major disconnect with the market and one party alone is benefiting from being the sole provider. Seriously, we need to start a podcast and do international retreats or something. *punk mode ON* Yes! In the south of France! I like France.
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Post by oaksong on Apr 15, 2018 19:35:55 GMT
Yes! In the south of France! I like France. Well then, that settles it! Scrapbooking retreat/party in Provence. Seriously, wouldn’t that be fun? I say we take a month.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 20:12:09 GMT
Her whole description of this retreat is based around food. Pizza Party. Paige Evans quickly will show you something and then we will eat. Tiffany & I will talk and then we will eat. Every single retreat Tracie puts out is so food centered. I am not being snarky. Tracie, why are you not doing something food centric? Like a food retreat. You seem to really enjoy being a foodie. You don't scrap anymore. You get beyond hurt we think your a grifter in this industry. Why just not leave an industry that is really not warm to you any more and go into an industry that you have a passion for and truly like? Really Tracie you only have yourself to blame for looking like you are trying to take advantage of and steal from women in this industry. It looks predatory like you go around and hunt for these kind of things. You don't really like the industry and seem to scoff at it. I really think you need to pray on this. I am not being snarky. Take some time for reflection on the kind of woman you want to be. Do you really want to go to heaven someday and face your King. He knows the kind of reputation you made for yourself? Do you want to face your King and be proud of the path he gave you? You could be respected and talked well about in the food world. Or, you could have this and the this I mean is a going on 30 plus page thread on the horrible person you want to show us. I can't imagine anyone would be proud of something like that. This is not the kind of attention getting you want. Tracie, I will be forward about something too. This thread could come back to haunt your beautiful daughter too. Somebody could ask her someday about it. I know you love your baby very much. I know it would pain you for her to answer. I remember how proud you were of her on the old 2Peas board. This is the only nice thing I will say in this thread for you. Nobody pick on me either about this. Really super bad week. I want to vent so bad on NSBR and I can't because my stalking case reared it's ugly head again and that's the minor issue for this week. I am one step away from my breaking point. This whole Tracie thing just gets me. Every single friggin day I have to fight to survive in my life. I see people like her who just want to throw it away. I never ever will get it. She speaks so often about being authentic and open but only actually scrapbooks when required to do so by people paying her for a class at a retreat or a cruise. Dance with the ones who bring ya sister...she aught to be scrapping her ass off instead of turning her nose up at the notion of free content. She could learn a lot from Paige Evans.
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Apr 16, 2018 4:24:38 GMT
The retreat that I do costs less, has 6 classes with industry-recognized leaders (company owners, designers) and sells out its approx 200 spots generally the day of registration. It is very well-organized and totally worth the spend. Much nicer hotel too.
And, yes, Heidi's event was called Creative Escape and ran upwards of $600 for a ticket at her event.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 7:01:10 GMT
She speaks so often about being authentic and open but only actually scrapbooks when required to do so by people paying her for a class at a retreat or a cruise. Dance with the ones who bring ya sister...she aught to be scrapping her ass off instead of turning her nose up at the notion of free content. She could learn a lot from Paige Evans. Sadly, I noticed a lot of stars in this industry only scrap when they receive something free- Tracie, Amy Tangerine & even Dear Lizzy is doing it now. I could go on and on. I will let you girls add to the list because I am so tired and upset I am in tears. They play the "I am so authentic game but the only authenticity about me is that I am all about money!!!!!!" A relative of mine got hit by a car this weekend. She's a lot like Tracie, I am afraid. I am her only family so a lot of you know how that goes. I was feeding her ice chips tonight. My husband told me later that last night she was thrashing all over the bed to hold my hand and his. Tonight, when she is much improved, she can't even move her arms and was demanding to me and the nurses. He was like "Last night she was all over the place, tonight she is "FEED ME ICE CHIPS!" Her injuries, even though severe, are not life threatening. Oh yeah, they don't effect her arms, lol. I am the type that feeds you ice chips when you are in the trauma care unit. Get out on regular floor and ice chip game is over I know "Girl, don't be doing that!" My DH said about this ice chip thing "She uses everyone and plays the helpless card." I almost forgot all she cares about right now is she might get an insurance payout too. I keep thinking that poor girl that hit her is probably falling apart right now and feels horrendous. I wish I could give her a hug and tell her it's ok. When DH & I left from visiting my relative we saw the Chaplain and Minister with a family comforting them because their loved one was not going to make it. That made me cry for them. I can't even imagine what they are going through. Life is so precious. People like Tracie and Tori throw it all away with hair flipping and food pictures. Why I am writing all of this is because Tracie is "FEED ME ICE CHIPS" She proved this with her pacemaker scam. She goes on these retreats and she doesn't care about the fifteen women she is reading too in that sad little cruise room. She cares about ice chips. Everyone that feeds her ice chips is shame on you. It has gone past shame on Tracie. Seriously, Tracie you need to go to a different niche. You could get free food. Maybe, just maybe, you can rebuild your reputation and have something you are proud of.
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Post by kiwigirl on Apr 16, 2018 7:24:08 GMT
Dance with the ones who bring ya sister...she aught to be scrapping her ass off instead of turning her nose up at the notion of free content. She could learn a lot from Paige Evans. What, how to plagiarize?
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Post by jennyap on Apr 16, 2018 9:13:41 GMT
Oh Dog, we'll never make any money à la Tracie! I'll spend every euro cent left on food and wine for the attendees. "Tipsy Mini Album with La Booty from 9PM until way past midnight: proper rosé from Provence and gossip provided free of charge" If I were to host fellow scrappers in my home region, I'd turn into several days of travel to get to know the actual place and then 1 1/2-2 days of relax & retreat to make a mini album/TN documenting the travel itself. If I knew people would be spending travel + hotel cash for a scrappy retreat, I'd make it worth their while. I'd be a terrible money maker in this venture but I'd make sure that anyone trusting me with some of their vacation time + leisure budget would be getting the max out of their investment. This is a shrinking community with shrinking budgets but the community's lovely, the crafters passionate and the worthwhile opportunities not that many. You are all welcome in my region if you ever want to actually travel + document. I might be a crappy scrapper, but I'm madly in love with the craft, storytelling, bringing people together and Provence. You bet I'd turn this into several days of travel + 2 days of relax & retreat to document the actual travel in a mini album/TN. This is about memory-keeping, so if people are going to travel to see you, you ought to go the extra mile to return the favour, I say. One day, one day, ladies, we'll have our Pea retreat. I'm so, so there! I love France, but haven't been as far south as Provence yet. One day
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Post by Chinagirl828 on Apr 16, 2018 10:21:19 GMT
I'd totally be in for the Peas retreat. I'd probably end up with my DH. Although he'd probably be quite happy to send me off without him I would feel guilty travelling so far and not making a proper holiday out of it. I'll just need some recommendations for where I can leave him while we're all pea-ing.
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Post by dawnnikol on Apr 16, 2018 10:40:45 GMT
@amayalylac I'm so sorry that's how your weekend went. kiwigirl I'm not defending the plagiarism, but you can't deny the girl scrapbooks ALL the time. She's not selling you t shirts and donuts, she's being creative and sticking to it.
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Post by myboysnme on Apr 16, 2018 11:41:51 GMT
Every single friggin day I have to fight to survive in my life. Thank you for coming here and sharing with us. I hope that some good comes your way soon to outweigh the bad. I have had lots of struggles this year so far and I know how overwhelming it gets. I also hope you will be safe.
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Post by myboysnme on Apr 16, 2018 11:52:41 GMT
I might be a crappy scrapper I know you are totally kidding! Because the mere fact that I, for the first time in 20 years of scrapping feel like I can freely post my layouts, means that there is no concept of crappy scrapping here! Is there anyway you can get us a Macron siting during our retreat?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 12:59:20 GMT
.... A relative of mine got hit by a car this weekend. She's a lot like Tracie, I am afraid. ... When DH & I left from visiting my relative we saw the Chaplain and Minister with a family comforting them because their loved one was not going to make it. That made me cry for them. I can't even imagine what they are going through. Life is so precious. People like Tracie and Tori throw it all away with hair flipping and food pictures. I'm really sorry @amayalylac
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Post by all5ofme on Apr 16, 2018 13:23:27 GMT
Looking at the pictures from the Texas retreat, did you notice how the tables were set up? All facing forward in in rows? Not condusive at all to chatting.... guess they wanted all eyes and attention on them with no chit chat. After all, it is a RETREAT and not a CROP.... lol.
The Cruise and Crop site offers crafty cruises throughout the year. The next one is in May and features Vicki Boutin.
It is very obvious (to me) that Tracie doesn't scrap anymore and when she did it seemed to be a burden. You can tell by the topics and conversations from recent podcasts. They have been rather dull lately. I think Tracie needs to go back and re-listen to her own podcast with BH about scrapbook fakers.
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Post by cbet on Apr 16, 2018 13:58:44 GMT
Oh, @amayalylac , I am so sorry that's how you spent your weekend! However, I have a relative who is somewhat similar and from now on, "feed me ice chips" is going to be my code word that helps me deal with her when she gets on a "pity me" roll.
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Post by christinec68 on Apr 16, 2018 14:58:35 GMT
@amayalylac I am very sorry about how your weekend went.
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Post by nicolep on Apr 16, 2018 16:32:16 GMT
so, re: the Scrap Gals Seattle Retreat. They've sold 60 spots @ $350 (with 25 seats left). Thats a whopping (as of right now) $21,000 for a two day crop. 2 classes - one with Tiff and one with Paige Evans. Lunch and Dinner are provided both days. You can read more HERE.
Thoughts?? Trying to catch up on this thread lol. I read this and about fell over. It really put it into perspective! SHE DOESN'T EVEN SCRAP ANYMORE! What is wrong with these people who are following her? Are they the snowflakes? I dont' get it. For real.
Seriously...when you look at this retreat (sounds more like exhausting to me) in comparison to Ali's Story Camp...it's embarrassing. Ali's is a class act from what I've seen and heard from those who have attended.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 16:42:53 GMT
The thing I find interesting is that they mandate you must join their FB group to attend a retreat.
Um. No. Even if I were interested, I"m not going to get on a particular social media platform in order to attend an event. Esp. not facebook after having been off of it for over 4 years.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Apr 16, 2018 18:25:15 GMT
I'm so, so there! I love France, but haven't been as far south as Provence yet. One day Come. Come. Come. *Provençal siren song* *throws lavender in the air* *gets rosé out of the fridge* Um. No. Even if I were interested, I"m not going to get on a particular social media platform in order to attend an event. Esp. not facebook after having been off of it for over 4 years. Me, a millenial: "There are still people on Facebook?" @amayalylac Hugs. That's not an easy weekend. I can see you're such a kind soul, always trying to see the good in people, give them the benefit of the doubt (and probably quite a few chances), encourage them to change for the better. I appreciate that quality very much. But keep that energy and hope for other people. It breaks my heart a little to see you hold out for someone like her, try to talk some sense. Tracie's behaviour suggests her superiority issues run deep (and paired with a fragile ego, that's a dangerous combination) and are consistent. She won't drop the act because it feeds her narcissism. She's got people paying to see her, adoring her, justifying her actions through their presence. She doesn't want or need to change in her eyes. And, frankly, there's no future in being an online foodie for her either. She eats crap, alas (which is something that irritated quite a few us after she hustled for donations for a donated pacemaker - if you're going to cash in on a health problem, at least try to improve your health a bit!). I admire your optimism so very much but Tracie doesn't deserve it. Save it for those who might actually change one day... Don't waste it on a lost cause. (I hope you won't take this the wrong way. I only meant it kindly and sincerely.)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 19:09:20 GMT
Re: the scrapgals retreat....350 PLUS the hotel...wow
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Post by jennyap on Apr 16, 2018 20:09:52 GMT
I'm so, so there! I love France, but haven't been as far south as Provence yet. One day Come. Come. Come. *Provençal siren song* *throws lavender in the air* *gets rosé out of the fridge* Temptress. How did you know I can't resist wine? So when's the best time of year to come for someone who doesn't like it too hot? Low to mid 20s is good...
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Post by Elsabelle on Apr 16, 2018 20:59:54 GMT
We're going to have to start another thread to talk about Provence with sleepingbooty. I've always dreamed of going there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 6:15:37 GMT
My beautiful Pea girls, Thank you so much. I can't even express in words how touched I am. It has been a bad time lately. I know I am so much more snappy than usual. I feel so bad about it. Oh, people like Tracie, Dear Lizzy's husband and then Tori just make me so ragey! To top everything off I had a brick thrown through my window because "I talk to black people!" I am not joking. The President of the KKK lives in my area. I guess him and his minions are watching and harassing. Now, I am scared to live in my home. My nerves are shot. Thank you for the beautiful circle. You are more than the best. My relative got moved to general tonight. Her legs is shattered but she is doing well. Except she won't improve herself because she is getting tons of attention. Now, the nurses and doctors are getting mad at her. I wouldn't feed her ice chips. I handed her the cup and made her eat them herself. I was able to finally contact her friends. I was so surprised everyone just surrounded my DH & me with love and support. I guess we just didn't expect that. Everyone knows how she is. They are really super worried about us. I broke down. They are not going to feed her ice chips either. They think she walked in the front of the car to get attention. sleepingbooty I could never be mad at you. I think about the Tracie's & Tori's of the world and what they do their family and friends over their whole behavior. They talk about loving their family. Their family doesn't feel loved and cherished. They feel pushed, and pushed and pushed beyond their brink until they don't feel loved. I always suspect these women are the ones who write "Families are everything" motto's that dominate the scrapbook industry, lol. nicolep I know, I know I am like "SHE DOESN'T SCRAP ANYMORE!" I don't get it either why people would want to go see her. She has a podcast not a product line. Why would anyone want to listen to her podcast that is about scrapping when she doesn't "SCRAP ANYMORE!" She has her new religious based podcast on Spotify. I have no clue why her followers don't follow her there if they are fans. Tiffany needs to form her own podcast and drop Tracie. Somebody is going to wonder why Tiffany is making a podcast with somebody that is not even in the industry. Tiffany is going to start looking reallllly bad in this if she doesn't drop Tracie.
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Post by Chinagirl828 on Apr 17, 2018 9:14:44 GMT
@amayalylac I'm sorry to hear of everything you are currently dealing with but I'm happy to hear you have people looking out for you. I hope things get back to normal for you soon.
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Post by caspad on Apr 17, 2018 14:05:56 GMT
Sign me up for Peas in Provence please!!
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Post by nicolep on Apr 17, 2018 14:20:34 GMT
Btw...Tiffany recorded a short message saying that they would not be recording a podcast this week because Tracie has Laryngitis.
She also said they are extending the sign - up deadline for their Seattle retreat to this Friday because they have 10 spots left.
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Post by stinkerbelle on Apr 17, 2018 19:50:22 GMT
hugs @amayalylac
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Post by riversong1963 on Apr 18, 2018 14:16:14 GMT
Btw...Tiffany recorded a short message saying that they would not be recording a podcast this week because Tracie has Laryngitis. She also said they are extending the sign - up deadline for their Seattle retreat to this Friday because they have 10 spots left. Tiffany should just do the podcast by herself. I know that I would enjoy it more. It would be nice to listen to a podcast in which no one was made fun of or put down because they do things differently or have different ideas. (I don't like to hear that anyone is sick, so I won't comment on the Laryngitis.)
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Post by lisacharlotte on Apr 18, 2018 17:28:06 GMT
I will not listen to the podcast because of Tracie. The longer Tiffany keeps the connection the less I follow her as well. Tracie is one of those shitty people that will actually cause me to stop supporting people who work with her. I don’t want to support her in any way even through association with others. This is a very rare position for me, but I feel she has earned it. I think she’s a horrible bully and hypocrite.
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Post by mom on Apr 18, 2018 17:59:08 GMT
I will not listen to the podcast because of Tracie. The longer Tiffany keeps the connection the less I follow her as well. Tracie is one of those shitty people that will actually cause me to stop supporting people who work with her. I don’t want to support her in any way even through association with others. This is a very rare position for me, but I feel she has earned it. I think she’s a horrible bully and hypocrite. I agree. She is in a class of her own.
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