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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 18:03:58 GMT
My employer may be splitting with his partner. I work in a large law firm with offices across the country. I was approached by a head hunter for a position doing tax compliance. (I am an accountant). I <3 taxes.
In my current position I am simply a glorified check writer. The $ is ok, but I pay 13XX/ month for my health insurance. New position would be 7k more a year and 70% contribution to the health insurance which is basically almost a 20k increase in overall compensation.
Problem is, current position management have given me carte blanche to take my mother for cancer treatments (don't have to use PTO) and appointments which are also in the downtown area where I work. The other position is about 20-25 minutes from the cancer hospital. I was honest about my mother's health situation and my role in the interview.
Also, while I am often bored to tears and under utilized in the current org, there is a possibility that I could expand my role and possibly increase my comp if there is a new firm/I go with one of the partners. One of the partners has personally asked me to not to look for a new position. Which I have not - they found me.
So, I am going to a second interview for the tax compliance position this week. It's down to myself and one other candidate. If offered, how would I approach current employer to indicate I would like to stay for more responsibility and increased comp to help offset the insurance costs? I have never negotiated a counter offer and do not know what this firm does in the situation.
Do I stay in a low stress boring job, that is conducive to medical appts or go for the money and do something I love and work it out with the medical appts? WWYD?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 19:27:19 GMT
My husband never countered, he said when an employee is considering a new, they are already out the door. When they gave their notice, they were given 2 weeks pay and told to leave. Their desk was cleaned out for them and personal contents dropped off at their home. This was to prevent documents from going with the employee.
I would say take the new job,
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Post by basketdiva on Jun 27, 2017 19:34:06 GMT
I would discuss exactly what the partner has in mind since has asked you not to look for another job. Ask him his time frame also. Don't tell him that you are interviewing-just that you have your future to consider and it would be helpful to know what's going on. Then you can make an informed decision.
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Post by mikklynn on Jun 27, 2017 19:44:50 GMT
I would discuss exactly what the partner has in mind since has asked you not to look for another job. Ask him his time frame also. Don't tell him that you are interviewing-just that you have your future to consider and it would be helpful to know what's going on. Then you can make an informed decision. I agree with this. The problem with a new position, is if you need time off to take care of your mother, you won't have FMLA protection for the first year. I have stayed in my current position for the reasons you have stated - they are flexible about dealing with my absences and I have FMLA protection. |
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Post by blue tulip on Jun 27, 2017 19:57:16 GMT
It seems like the only thing your current job has going for it is the flexibility for your mom's treatments, right? Which you told the potential job about, and they offered. You don't know that the new job wouldn't also allow you the flexibility, so I'd find that out first. If they are at all willing to work with you on that, I'd take that job in a second over a bunch of "might happen"s and "hopefully"s at your old job.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jun 27, 2017 19:57:50 GMT
I would discuss exactly what the partner has in mind since has asked you not to look for another job. Ask him his time frame also. Don't tell him that you are interviewing-just that you have your future to consider and it would be helpful to know what's going on. Then you can make an informed decision. I agree with this. The problem with a new position, is if you need time off to take care of your mother, you won't have FMLA protection for the first year. I have stayed in my current position for the reasons you have stated - they are flexible about dealing with my absences and I have FMLA protection. This. Unless you can agree upon flexibility up front to care for your mother (get it in writing).
I currently HATE my job. H-A-T-E it. But I stay because (a) I am the sole bread winner (b) I need the health insurance and (c) they give me the flexibility I need to care for my husband (ie: I work from the hospital every 2 weeks when I take him to chemo and when he almost died last summer, they let me work from home for 2 months so I could care for him).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 20:24:19 GMT
Thanks everyone. I appreciate the input so far.
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Post by julieinsweden on Jun 27, 2017 20:46:17 GMT
Take the tax job, if offered and don't look back.
I see it that you are actually looking at 3 scenario.
1) stay with the original organization. But they may not have enough work if your boss leaves, so may fired you anyway. Or change role and not give you the time off to follow your mum.
2) go with your boss. But there is no guarantee that they will have enough for you to do. It will be a new start up so money will be right do probably offer even less than you have now. Including not being able to afford to let you follow your mum.
3) tax job. Presumably an existing company with stable ecconomy. Offering a more interesting job for a lot more money....without you negotiating so far(?). The only unknown is time off for your mum. Unless you ask you don't know,but they might surprise you.
Good luck with the second interview.
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Post by buddysmom on Jun 27, 2017 21:04:17 GMT
I worked in the insurance industry and dealt with attorneys all of the time.
I realize that you are an accountant, not a paralegal, etc but MANY times when an attorney left or broke up with their partner(s), etc, their paralegals especially (that's who I mainly dealt with) would go with them. It seems that if an attorney works well/likes his/her support staff, they will do A LOT to keep them.
It's probably like that in many industries but I saw it very often first hand--it would be the same group of people with just a different firm.
So they may offer you more $ if they want to keep you (and from what you indicated, they really do). It sounds like you have a good relationship with your attorney so I would just discuss with him and see where it goes.
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Post by christine58 on Jun 27, 2017 21:05:59 GMT
Do I stay in a low stress boring job, that is conducive to medical appts or go for the money and do something I love and work it out with the medical I say go for the job you love! I bet you'll be able to work out the medical appointments. How is your mom? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 1:01:10 GMT
Go for the job you love and that has an opportunity to grow. If you don't you will regret it later. You can find help and support with getting your mother to her treatments if needed.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jun 28, 2017 3:25:16 GMT
A big concern is your stress level while supporting your mother during her cancer battle. A new job will require a heavy learning curve and the added stress of new co-workers, location, unfamiliarity, etc. I know your current job is boring, but right now you have so much on your plate w/your mom's illness that boring might not be a terrible thing, because you are able to take all the time you need to help your mom. ITA, that you should talk to the atty that wants you to go w/him and get him to divulge his plan and if you weren't taking care of your mom I would tell you to seriously consider the new job.
On another note, who's pampering you? Are you taking time to do things that are loving for yourself? First rule of being a caretaker is to take care of the caretaker. My thoughts are w/you.
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Post by PaperAngel on Jun 28, 2017 3:58:56 GMT
As a (former) accountant/auditor/consultant, I cannot get past your declaration of "I <3 taxes."  |
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Post by originalvanillabean on Jun 28, 2017 13:11:21 GMT
So they may offer you more $ if they want to keep you (and from what you indicated, they really do). It sounds like you have a good relationship with your attorney so I would just discuss with him and see where it goes. This. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 13:56:15 GMT
I work for a firm well known for it's jingle and phone number. If you are in NYS or CA you may know who it is. Their breakup has made the news and court docs related to the dissolution were released yesterday. Peas local to me will know who I am talking about - I don't want to use their name in case it comes up in searches.
I am not formally attached to one partner over another, but only one has approached me and asked me to stay. I think it's likely he will start his own firm. The other partner has made moves to indicate that direction as well - incorporating under a new name, opening bank accounts, etc.
Just wanted to clarify that I do not work directly for one attorney akin to the the paralegal/attorney relationship.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 13:59:01 GMT
A big concern is your stress level while supporting your mother during her cancer battle. A new job will require a heavy learning curve and the added stress of new co-workers, location, unfamiliarity, etc. I know your current job is boring, but right now you have so much on your plate w/your mom's illness that boring might not be a terrible thing, because you are able to take all the time you need to help your mom. ITA, that you should talk to the atty that wants you to go w/him and get him to divulge his plan and if you weren't taking care of your mom I would tell you to seriously consider the new job. On another note, who's pampering you? Are you taking time to do things that are loving for yourself? First rule of being a caretaker is to take care of the caretaker. My thoughts are w/you. Thank you! That is my concern as well - learning curve, new office politics, time off.... My sisters and I share the caregiving and 2 of us live on the same street as my mom. Regular massages and naps are my thang when stressed. Maybe some pinot grigio.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 14:00:44 GMT
Stage 4 angiosarcoma and then she broke her pelvis in a fall on 6/1. Got her out of the horrid rehab facility in time for her 75th birthday last week. Spirits are down but we try and keep her positive. |
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