MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 27, 2017 20:21:06 GMT
DenverPost: "Colorado mom angry at United after infant overheats while airplane sits on tarmac at DIA"Here is the crux of the article: The mom estimates the plane spent longer than 2 hours on a very hot tarmac, which is against regulations. It was also 90 degrees or over, with hot air blowing from the vents. The fourth-month-old baby struggled in the heat and finally became unconsciousness: It shouldn't take 30 minutes to get someone help for a medical emergency when a plane is on the ground. Period. The poor mom. Interestingly, if the mom locked her baby in a hot car she'd be arrested, yet United can lock the baby in a hot plane? 
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Post by myshelly on Jun 27, 2017 20:27:33 GMT
I don't understand how airlines can continue to treat people like this and be completely immune from any type of consequence.
You are right. If a parent left a child in a hot car or delayed so long in calling medical help for a child in an emergency the parent would be charged.
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Post by nlwilkins on Jun 27, 2017 20:32:37 GMT
How helpless that mother must have felt. She was at their mercy and they had none.
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Post by prapea on Jun 27, 2017 20:37:41 GMT
I think the headline should be,
"United Fucks up....again" , in any and every newspaper/outlet it is posted
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jun 27, 2017 20:42:30 GMT
It shouldn't take 30 minutes to get someone help for a medical emergency when a plane is on the ground. Period. The poor mom. That's horrendous. I would have felt helpless and so upset. |
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Jun 27, 2017 20:43:08 GMT
United Airlines needs to go out of business - they are a true danger to the public. What happened to that poor baby is inexcusable!
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Post by not2peased on Jun 27, 2017 20:56:42 GMT
it's my understanding it took 16 minutes, not half an hour, but still, that is wayyyyy too long for an unconscious 4 month old-I would have become completely unhinged if that was my grandson (who is 8 weeks old)
Honestly, I would have been arrested. it takes a lot to push me over the edge but that would do it, for sure
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Post by christine58 on Jun 27, 2017 20:58:07 GMT
Hope that little one is ok. I hate that the airlines treat us so crappy at times.
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 27, 2017 21:13:56 GMT
it's my understanding it took 16 minutes, not half an hour, That's kinda interesting. Every report I've seen is saying 30 minutes. Where did you see 16 minutes? |
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Post by beachbum on Jun 27, 2017 21:21:20 GMT
I would love to be on the jury if that ever went to trial. Hope the mom has a great lawyer - United deserves to be raked over the coals for this one. What assholes. (and I'm one who thinks there are too many people suing for everything, but this is a case that needs to be taken to court)
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jun 27, 2017 21:21:41 GMT
She showed great restraint - I would have thrown the doors open and jumped down a inflatable raft to get that baby out of there! (i know that is unlikely, but damn! attempt to look like you are doing something United!)
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Post by maryland on Jun 27, 2017 21:47:29 GMT
That poor child!
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Post by not2peased on Jun 27, 2017 21:56:22 GMT
it's my understanding it took 16 minutes, not half an hour, That's kinda interesting. Every report I've seen is saying 30 minutes. Where did you see 16 minutes? GMA reported it this morning |
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 27, 2017 21:59:06 GMT
Waiting for someone to blame the woman for taking an infant on a plane.
That is so incredibly terrifying. I can't imagine what that mom went through. Shame on United, and I hope they get the pants sued off of them, which isn't something I say often.
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Post by elaine on Jun 27, 2017 22:05:03 GMT
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Post by zella on Jun 27, 2017 22:06:53 GMT
I haven't flown United in about 15 years because of their atrocious customer service. PLEASE, everyone STOP FLYING UNITED! This airline needs to go out of business. This isn't a recent problem, it has been going on for many years. It is a company that is rotten, through and through. Just don't use this airline. If enough people do so, they will be gone.
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 27, 2017 22:19:48 GMT
That's kinda interesting. Every report I've seen is saying 30 minutes. Where did you see 16 minutes? GMA reported it this morning Ah...just found the clip. "United Airlines says from the time they called for the paramedics until the paramedics were on board back at the gate was just 16 minutes, not a half hour" (1:56) Honestly, I'm taking the mom's version over United given United's uncanny talent for under-emphasizing the seriousness of actual situations. After all, they are the ones who rephrased the violent and damaging forcible removal of Dr. David Dao as a "re-accommodation".  |
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Post by Zee on Jun 27, 2017 22:23:17 GMT
Why didn't anyone grab some ice to make an ice bag to cool the baby...good lord. Poor baby.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 22:24:39 GMT
I haven't flown United in about 15 years because of their atrocious customer service. PLEASE, everyone STOP FLYING UNITED! This airline needs to go out of business. This isn't a recent problem, it has been going on for many years. It is a company that is rotten, through and through. Just don't use this airline. If enough people do so, they will be gone. If they keep this up they'll make sure everyone stops flying United. |
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Post by SockMonkey on Jun 27, 2017 22:26:31 GMT
I would have called 911 from my phone and really fucked up United's day. First call to 911. If that did not motivate them, my next call would be to CNN.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 22:32:20 GMT
Why didn't anyone grab some ice to make an ice bag to cool the baby...good lord. Poor baby. The article I read, said they did. There were 2 infants on the plane. The other mother had ice bags on her child's chest. I think united is done for now. There is no way to explain their way out of this. |
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jun 27, 2017 22:33:14 GMT
It's barbaric that someone in a position to make a decision did not opt to get that baby off that plane immediately once he lost consciousness. Surely some attendant or pilot on that plane should have been willing to risk their job in a case like that. I would have.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 27, 2017 22:43:31 GMT
I sure hope that baby is ok. OMG how awful.
In that situation (Sitting not taxiing ) I'd take out my cel and call 911. And yes I know i 'could' get arrested. But I also know that if my kid is passed out without help for a half an hour I would be beyond batshit crazy. I just know i would NOT last past 5 minutes. Maybe 10 if i thought they were doing something. But I'm NOT patient when i comes to my kids health. If the plane is taxiing or airborne there is nothing you can do but alert the flight crew and wait. But SITTING THERE? i could not do it.
So I'd have gotten back to the gate to be arrested from either using my phone or going batshit crazy. Not on purpose, but I just know i couldn't just sit there. I just couldn't. I know my limitations and my kid passed out is beyond my limitations. That mom has my sincere admiration that she held it together, she's a better, more patient, woman than I am.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jun 27, 2017 22:47:39 GMT
I sure hope that baby is ok. OMG how awful. In that situation (Sitting not taxiing ) I'd take out my cel and call 911. And yes I know i 'could' get arrested. But I also know that if my kid is passed out without help for a half an hour I would be beyond batshit crazy. I just know i would NOT last past 5 minutes. Maybe 10 if i thought they were doing something. But I'm NOT patient when i comes to my kids health. If the plane is taxiing or airborne there is nothing you can do but alert the flight crew and wait. But SITTING THERE? i could not do it. So I'd have gotten back to the gate to be arrested from either using my phone or going batshit crazy. Not on purpose, but I just know i couldn't just sit there. I just couldn't. I know my limitations and my kid passed out is beyond my limitations. That mom has my sincere admiration that she held it together, she's a better, more patient, woman than I am. SAME. There would have been a scene made that would have made that man getting dragged off look like a playground scuffle. I'd have fucked some shit UP if my kid lost consciousness and I was trapped in that metal tube because someone didn't want to make a judgement call. |
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Post by myshelly on Jun 27, 2017 23:09:48 GMT
GMA reported it this morning Ah...just found the clip. "United Airlines says from the time they called for the paramedics until the paramedics were on board back at the gate was just 16 minutes, not a half hour" (1:56) Honestly, I'm taking the mom's version over United given United's uncanny talent for under-emphasizing the seriousness of actual situations. After all, they are the ones who rephrased the violent and damaging forcible removal of Dr. David Dao as a "re-accommodation". That's not taking into account the time the mom spent trying to convince the flight crew to call paramedics and the time the flight crew debated. I think the half an hour from the time the *mom asked* for paramedics is more accurate. |
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Post by elaine on Jun 27, 2017 23:10:32 GMT
Ah...just found the clip. "United Airlines says from the time they called for the paramedics until the paramedics were on board back at the gate was just 16 minutes, not a half hour" (1:56) Honestly, I'm taking the mom's version over United given United's uncanny talent for under-emphasizing the seriousness of actual situations. After all, they are the ones who rephrased the violent and damaging forcible removal of Dr. David Dao as a "re-accommodation". That's not taking into account the time the mom spent trying to convince the flight crew to call paramedics and the time the flight crew debated. I think the half an hour from the time the *mom asked* for paramedics is more accurate. I was just about to say the same thing. |
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 27, 2017 23:27:22 GMT
If someone called 911, though, what would have happened? Would they permit an emergency vehicle or staff out on the tarmac without coordinating with the airplane staff? Honest question.
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Post by Belle on Jun 27, 2017 23:29:05 GMT
If the temperature controls weren't working on the plane, why would they risk flying without it being operational?
About 3 years ago we were flying to Kauai and the temp in the front of the plane could not be regulated. The cockpit was in the 90's and the 1st class was in the 40's. The flight attendants were giving the pilots bags of ice and the passengers in 1st class were given bottles of hot water. We were about 2 hours into the flight so the decision was made to keep going and not turn back to Seattle. Our flight was given the go ahead to cut through some military air space so our flight time was shortened a bit. Once we landed, the pilots were the first ones off the plane and they did not look good.
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Post by myshelly on Jun 27, 2017 23:32:50 GMT
If someone called 911, though, what would have happened? Would they permit an emergency vehicle or staff out on the tarmac without coordinating with the airplane staff? Honest question. I was also wondering this. I'm wondering if the call has to come from the plane. Airports have their own EMS/fire departments. So I wonder if you call 911 on a cell phone, you would get a regular city dispatcher and they don't have the ability to dispatch airport services? I don't know, I am also wondering the same thing and just trying to think of an answer. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 23:32:57 GMT
I am pretty sure that Denver airport has its own fire dept. I am not sure if they have an emt crew. Why weren't they called?
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