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Post by frenchie on Jun 28, 2017 4:50:26 GMT
She is a good person because I would've inflated the emergency slide and been halfway across the tarmac while they were picking up their mouths. Fuck that. That was my other thought...I'd have pulled that exit door and been out of there like that flight attendant a few years ago (who remains one of my personal heroes). I'm not familiar with ice storage on a plane but why does anyone think it would melt? They have electricity and refrigeration, right? Ice doesn't disappear during long international flights. Not that that's really important here, but yes, ice placed on the pulse points of a naked 4 month old would bring the temp down considerably if the plane was only in the 90s. I wonder if anything else was going on with this poor baby. The ice is packed with dry ice. There is no refrigeration, at least not during my career. I retired several years ago.
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Post by Zee on Jun 28, 2017 12:36:28 GMT
That was my other thought...I'd have pulled that exit door and been out of there like that flight attendant a few years ago (who remains one of my personal heroes). I'm not familiar with ice storage on a plane but why does anyone think it would melt? They have electricity and refrigeration, right? Ice doesn't disappear during long international flights. Not that that's really important here, but yes, ice placed on the pulse points of a naked 4 month old would bring the temp down considerably if the plane was only in the 90s. I wonder if anything else was going on with this poor baby. The ice is packed with dry ice. There is no refrigeration, at least not during my career. I retired several years ago. Thanks for answering that!
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Post by mikklynn on Jun 28, 2017 12:37:11 GMT
Why didn't anyone grab some ice to make an ice bag to cool the baby...good lord. Poor baby. That was my thought, too.
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Post by teddyw on Jun 28, 2017 12:50:25 GMT
So if you call 911 from a plane you can be charged? Does someone know the answer?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 14:06:29 GMT
So if you call 911 from a plane you can be charged? Does someone know the answer? I'd be charged rather than fear my infant is suffering brain damage. I doubt charges would be brought in the case of a mother and sick child.
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Post by likescarrots on Jun 28, 2017 16:12:15 GMT
Not taking United's side or anything, but I am curious as to how with ice bags supplied for cooling down the small ones, that they still overheated? Just wondering if there isn't more to the story. On the flip side, I detest most airlines and how they treat people. Well a 4 month old would be dealing with the 90 degrees, the hot air or whatever is blowing, the parent's body heat, because they are being held. The contrast of the ice bag would be on a small part of their body, I don't think the ice would counteract the additional body heat of the parent. I am so disturbed by this story. Seriously disturbed. I thought they 'fixed' this with a new law back in like 2009 when there were all those people stranded on runways. I guess not. not to mention, who cares if there was something else going on, if a baby (or anybody, for that matter) goes unconscious you call a goddamn ambulance. You don't sit around wondering why it happened or who is to blame. I can't even comprehend how this could be a 'is there more to this story' situation.
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Post by Zee on Jun 28, 2017 16:22:43 GMT
Well a 4 month old would be dealing with the 90 degrees, the hot air or whatever is blowing, the parent's body heat, because they are being held. The contrast of the ice bag would be on a small part of their body, I don't think the ice would counteract the additional body heat of the parent. I am so disturbed by this story. Seriously disturbed. I thought they 'fixed' this with a new law back in like 2009 when there were all those people stranded on runways. I guess not. not to mention, who cares if there was something else going on, if a baby (or anybody, for that matter) goes unconscious you call a goddamn ambulance. You don't sit around wondering why it happened or who is to blame. I can't even comprehend how this could be a 'is there more to this story' situation. I think everyone here made it pretty clear that they agree an ambulance should have been called immediately. It's ok to wonder if there was something else going on with the baby, though. No one here is suggesting mom is at fault, merely curious. It's normal to have questions and have a discussion about it, this is the internet. And the Peas.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 28, 2017 17:58:22 GMT
She is a good person because I would've inflated the emergency slide and been halfway across the tarmac while they were picking up their mouths. Fuck that. I had the same thought. I was on the ground in Texas? Arizona? Hell I have no recollection, it was several years ago. We were stuck on the ground for an hour or more. Holy hell those planes get hot. I honestly thought I was going to have a panic attack. If my baby lost consciousness, I wouldn't have hesitated to pull the emergency slide. I guarantee you there would have been emergency personnel on site in less than 2 minutes.
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Post by moodyblue on Jun 28, 2017 18:31:37 GMT
Has there been any statement from United about this? I'm really curious what they have to say, since they botched the last incident so badly.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Jun 28, 2017 18:45:07 GMT
The baby losing consciousness and the time it too paramedics to arrive is a horror story, and I would have been arrested because I would have either strangled someone or lost my shit so badly they would have had to let me off a plane. But setting that aside for a moment - how the fuck did the flight crew allow the situation to escalate to this point in the first place? They had to resort to icing down babies because of the heat? Are you fucking KIDDING me? No, no, and hell no. I hope she sues them into bankruptcy. These are my thoughts too. The response time of the crew and emergency medical team is a moot point - it never should've gotten to that point. The mother must've been terrified - what a scary situation.
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 28, 2017 18:54:53 GMT
Has there been any statement from United about this? I'm really curious what they have to say, since they botched the last incident so badly. Oh sure, their response time to the media has improved dramatically! Here's their statement from the article referenced in the OP: And from this NBC article: They're "profoundly sorry". That should make everyone feel better, right?
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Post by my3freaks on Jun 29, 2017 19:20:17 GMT
They're "profoundly sorry". That should make everyone feel better, right? Oh, well since they're PROFOUNDLY sorry, all should be forgiven & forgotten! I almost always fly Southwest, but with an apology like that, maybe I should look into United next time!
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Post by megop on Jun 29, 2017 22:50:41 GMT
not to mention, who cares if there was something else going on, if a baby (or anybody, for that matter) goes unconscious you call a goddamn ambulance. You don't sit around wondering why it happened or who is to blame. I can't even comprehend how this could be a 'is there more to this story' situation. I think everyone here made it pretty clear that they agree an ambulance should have been called immediately. It's ok to wonder if there was something else going on with the baby, though. No one here is suggesting mom is at fault, merely curious. It's normal to have questions and have a discussion about it, this is the internet. And the Peas. Thank you. My thoughts were purely from a curiosity standpoint. I work in healthcare and was just wondering if there wasn't some underlying health issue for the poor wee one like maybe just got over a bout of loose stool and was perhaps dehydrated limiting cool down response. Absolutely agree it doesn't matter. No mom blaming here. Clearly United should have acted much quicker.
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