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Post by flanz on Jun 27, 2017 23:57:29 GMT
This senate Bill is terrible. Lives matter more than money. "The nation’s 400 richest families alone would receive tax cuts equal to maintaining Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion in Nevada, West Virginia, Arkansas, and Alaska combined." www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/ken-norton-donald-trump
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Post by ntsf on Jun 27, 2017 23:59:44 GMT
warren buffet at least is pushing to keep the corporate tax rate the same, increase the inheritance tax and raising rates on the super rich (like a minimum paid if you make over $10 million)
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Post by lucyg on Jun 28, 2017 0:03:16 GMT
So not surprised.
To you, lives matter more than money. Not to many of those 400 richest families and/or the big donors breathing down the necks of Republican lawmakers.
There is such a very basic philosophical difference between those of us who see the country as a community, where we all do what we can to make sure everyone is safe, healthy, fed, educated, etc., and those who feel it's every man (woman) for himself (herself).
As long as the richest, most powerful people don't see how they themselves benefit from lifting everyone up, it's not going to happen.
Sorry.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 28, 2017 0:14:41 GMT
Monday 26 June 2017 07.49 EDT Last modified on Tuesday 27 June 2017 17.10 EDT
At a weekend donor retreat attended by at least 18 elected officials, the Koch brothers warned that time is running out to push their agenda, most notably healthcare and tax reform, through Congress.
Trump wants 'heart' as Republicans seek to deliver Senate healthcare bill Read more One Texas-based donor warned Republican lawmakers that his “Dallas piggy bank” was now closed, until he saw legislative progress.
“Get Obamacare repealed and replaced, get tax reform passed,” said Doug Deason. “Get it done and we’ll open it back up.”
Nonetheless, Koch officials said that the network’s midterm budget for policy and politics is between $300m and $400m.
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The Senate will this week seek to pass its version of healthcare reform – at present it does not have enough Republican support to overcome blanket Democratic opposition.
“There is urgency,” said Tim Phillips, who leads Koch network’s political arm, Americans for Prosperity, at the industrialist brothers’ retreat in Colorado Springs. “We believe we have a window of about 12 months to get as much of it accomplished as possible before the 2018 elections grind policy to a halt.”
What are you doing to protest the Republican health bill? Read more The window for action may be even smaller, some Koch allies warned at the weekend retreat that drew roughly 400 participants to the heart of the Rocky Mountains. The price for admission for most was a pledge to give at least $100,000 this year to the Kochs’ broad policy and political network.
There were also at least 18 elected officials on hand. Some hosted private policy discussions with donors while others simply mingled.
In between meetings, Dave Brat, a Virginia Republican representative, predicted dire consequences in next year’s midterm elections should his party fail to deliver on its repeated promises.
“If we don’t get healthcare, none of us are coming back,” he said in a brief interview. “We said for seven years you’re gonna repeal Obamacare. It’s nowhere near repealed.”
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It’s the same for tax reform, Brat said: “We don’t get taxes through, we’re all going home. Pack the bags.”
There was a sense of deep frustration from conservative officials and donors alike, decrying the pace of progress in Washington with Republicans controlling both chambers of Congress and the White House for the first time in a decade.
Deason has already informed a handful of congressional Republicans that the “Dallas piggy bank” is closed until he sees more action. He said he was recently approached by congressmen Mark Meadows of North Carolina and Jim Jordan of Ohio about hosting a fundraiser.
“I said, ‘No I’m not going to because we’re closing the checkbook until you get some things done,’” Deason said, noting he’s encouraged nearly two dozen major Texas donors to follow his lead.
While some donors threatened to withhold campaign cash, Koch’s team outlined a broader strategy to help shape the debate. Already, Americans For Prosperity claims a paid staff of more than 400 full-time activists in 36 states.
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The group is actively lobbying Senate Republicans to change their current healthcare proposal, which it views as insufficiently conservative.
“We are not committed to the Senate bill in its current form, but there is still time to make changes and we’re actively working to improve it,” Phillips said.
At the same time, Koch’s allies are aggressively pushing forward on the taxes. The network is running what it describes as “a first wave” of digital ads calling on more than 50 House and Senate Republicans in both parties to overhaul the nation’s tax code.
Later in the summer, Philips said, Americans for Prosperity will begin hosting rallies and other events to generate momentum for a tax overhaul in all 36 states where they have full-time operations.
Analysis ‘They’re sentencing me to death’: Medicaid recipients on the Republican healthcare plan Read more Sean Lansing, AFP’s chief operating officer, warned that the Republican party’s House majority could be in jeopardy if the Republican-led Congress doesn’t follow through.
“If they don’t make good on these promises … there are going to be consequences, and quite frankly there should be,” Lansing said.
Republicans would have to lose 24 seats to lose the House majority. In a handful of recent special elections, the GOP has prevailed, despite Donald Trump’s low approval ratings.
Another Koch donor, Chris Wright, of Colorado, says Republicans likely have a 10-month window before any chance of major policy action is suffocated by next year’s midterms.
“If we don’t get anything done by then, the elections probably don’t go very well,” Wright said. “They may not go well anyway.”
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Post by megop on Jun 28, 2017 0:15:40 GMT
Well I don't know who the 400 are so I'm not that quick to judge their view on health care. I'm pretty sure Mr. Buffet would be included and he already has demonstrated a different view than this characterization.
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Post by annabella on Jun 28, 2017 0:18:07 GMT
Wow
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Post by valleyview on Jun 28, 2017 0:18:19 GMT
It seems like we have elected the Manchurian Candidate. Let's serve only those on top!
I really don't know too many people who chose their pre-existing conditions, and I know that life can turn on a dime.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 28, 2017 1:11:11 GMT
I am so not able to stomach that. I swear they are going to shove me right on over to be a full on socialist if they keep this shit up.
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Post by jayfab on Jun 28, 2017 1:31:06 GMT
I am so not able to stomach that. I swear they are going to shove me right on over to be a full on socialist if they keep this shit up. This. It seems that each day that goes by with this administration the more left I get. SaveSave
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 28, 2017 1:34:27 GMT
We need people who are Republicans to say no. Please. Call your senators and reps.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 28, 2017 1:56:37 GMT
Well I don't know who the 400 are so I'm not that quick to judge their view on health care. I'm pretty sure Mr. Buffet would be included and he already has demonstrated a different view than this characterization. Well, that's why I said "many" of the richest. I don't know what any given individual thinks. But I do know that if most of the richest, most powerful people in this country thought the way Buffett, Gates, and Zuckerberg think, we would not have this constant push-pull going on between, say, real access to health care for everyone vs. massive tax cuts for the wealthiest members of society. Good to see you posting. 
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jun 28, 2017 10:44:05 GMT
So not surprised. To you, lives matter more than money. Not to many of those 400 richest families and/or the big donors breathing down the necks of Republican lawmakers. There is such a very basic philosophical difference between those of us who see the country as a community, where we all do what we can to make sure everyone is safe, healthy, fed, educated, etc., and those who feel it's every man (woman) for himself (herself). As long as the richest, most powerful people don't see how they themselves benefit from lifting everyone up, it's not going to happen. Sorry. So very well said.
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