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Post by Karene on Jun 30, 2017 20:52:18 GMT
When I read the article about the Pence-Kobach Voting Commission and all the info that they want, I wondered if the government has info on how people in the U.S. vote? Do they know which candidates you cast your ballot for and which party? Also, do you have to be registered as a member of a party or independent?
Here in Canada, we go to the polling station, they check off our name to show that we came to vote. Then we are given a small piece of paper with the names of the candidates. There is a space next to the name to put your x in. Then we fold up the paper and put it in a box with everyone's else's paper. No one can tell which piece of paper is mine. We also do not have to be registered as being part of any party at any time. We only have to be a citizen or resident. In fact, I've only known two people in my life that actual belonged to a party.
Thanks in advance for answering.
Karen
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Post by Montannie on Jun 30, 2017 20:56:07 GMT
I don't think they know HOW I voted, but they definitely know if I voted.
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Post by katybee on Jun 30, 2017 21:02:42 GMT
They can also know demographic information about you and whether you're registered with a particular political party. With all that info, there's a good chance they can figure out HOW you're likely to vote...
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Post by Merge on Jun 30, 2017 21:03:22 GMT
Voting is mostly done on specialized computers here - that's why Russia is potentially able to hack our system. Whether or not you must register with a party varies from state to state.
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Post by craftykitten on Jun 30, 2017 21:03:26 GMT
Sounds very similar to how it works here in the U.K. You have to get your name checked off the list, but no one knows how I voted.
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Post by craftykitten on Jun 30, 2017 21:04:35 GMT
Voting is mostly done on specialized computers here - that's why Russia is potentially able to hack our system. Whether or not you must register with a party varies from state to state. Do you press a button? It sounds intriguing. I should probably just google.
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Post by Zee on Jun 30, 2017 21:06:36 GMT
Voting is mostly done on specialized computers here - that's why Russia is potentially able to hack our system. Whether or not you must register with a party varies from state to state. Do you press a button? It sounds intriguing. I should probably just google. That depends on your state, it's not standardized.
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Post by mrssmith on Jun 30, 2017 21:09:45 GMT
Do you press a button? It sounds intriguing. I should probably just google. That depends on your state, it's not standardized. That's the crazy thing to me - it not being standardized! And then we have an option to use the machine or paper ballot on voting day or vote early/absentee by mail. Some states don't have early voting. The early voting time periods vary. Etc, etc.... I worked on a referendum initiative and there was a database of residents' info pulled from the voting records. We had ages, names, addresses and in many cases if they were registered w/ a party. This is in IL. Save
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Jun 30, 2017 21:17:17 GMT
We don't register with a party in my state, but during primaries, you choose which party's primary you wish to cast a ballot. Then, you sign in on that roll, so there would be a record.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 30, 2017 21:32:05 GMT
Do you press a button? It sounds intriguing. I should probably just google. That depends on your state, it's not standardized. It actually depends on your county - it's not even standard across a state.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jun 30, 2017 21:39:12 GMT
Voting is mostly done on specialized computers here - that's why Russia is potentially able to hack our system. Whether or not you must register with a party varies from state to state. Do you press a button? It sounds intriguing. I should probably just google. Not in my state, we are all mail in vote and we do not have to register for a party to vote. I have never been to a polling place I've done all my voting and registering via mail.
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Post by Zee on Jun 30, 2017 22:09:14 GMT
That depends on your state, it's not standardized. It actually depends on your county - it's not even standard across a state. I thought that might be the case but I wasn't sure. Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 22:57:00 GMT
In my state you have to be registered as a democrat, republican, or independent. BUT, those registered as independent voters don't get to vote in the primaries. During the primaries you can only vote in elections that are about your party. Once it goes to the general election you are able to vote for whoever you want and independents can vote as well.
Ballots at my polling place are a fill in the box with a black pen. Then the ballot is fed through a "reader" machine that reads the pattern of black squares I made. I'm the only one to handle it at that time. I feed it through the reader. There is a person nearby to help if I have questions about which way to turn it. But they aren't near enough to really see my ballot.
The ballot doesn't identify me personally but when I go to vote there is a big book of names of people who are registered to vote and are assigned to that polling place. You get assigned to a polling place by your address. Mine is a nearby church. Churches are popular around here because they typically aren't in use during the week so voting isn't disrupting other activities, they have room for the machines and plenty of parking.
So, my state knows what party I am registered with, where I am assigned to vote, my demographics so they can make a statistical guess... but they don't know for sure how I personally voted.
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Post by anniefb on Jun 30, 2017 23:03:13 GMT
Sounds very similar to how it works here in the U.K. You have to get your name checked off the list, but no one knows how I voted. Same in New Zealand. And there's no need to 'register' with a particular party. SaveSave
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Post by miominmio on Jun 30, 2017 23:05:58 GMT
Sounds very similar to how it works here in the U.K. You have to get your name checked off the list, but no one knows how I voted. Same in New Zealand. And there's no need to 'register' with a particular party. SaveSaveAnd Norway as well.
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Post by Merge on Jun 30, 2017 23:07:22 GMT
Voting is mostly done on specialized computers here - that's why Russia is potentially able to hack our system. Whether or not you must register with a party varies from state to state. Do you press a button? It sounds intriguing. I should probably just google. In Texas, in my county (and I think all across Texas but I could be wrong) we have to sign in and show ID. They check our name off the list for that polling location (or for early voting, where you can go to any location, they write in your name/ID number) and have a machine that spits out a pink slip of paper with a unique code on it. Then you go up to the voting computer and enter that unique code. The computers are old school - there's no keyboard, just a thumb wheel you use to scroll to your selections, then press enter to choose. At the end you press something (complete? I forget) to enter your votes into the system. Since I've been voting, there's been an option at the top to vote straight-ticket in any one party, but I believe they've done away with that for the next election. I'm not sure now if the unique code is somehow tied to your name when you get it. If it is, then they could easily track how you voted. If not, I don't know how they'd tie your vote to your name.
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Post by ntsf on Jun 30, 2017 23:13:23 GMT
it is also illegal in several states to provide anyone, including the federal govt, the information they are asking for.. and there is no information on how it would be used, how it would be stored, kept secured, etc.
this is basically trump spending our money to prove a fraud that never happen.. just like he spent over $200,000 to figure out that the national park service was telling and showing the truth on his crowds at the swearing in..
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Post by femalebusiness on Jun 30, 2017 23:34:28 GMT
I am in So. Cal. I mail in my vote and my address is on the back of the mail in envelope along with my signature, so if they are looking for who I am it is right there. The ballot inside the envelope has no identifying data like a number or code.
Years ago when I used to go to the polling place I had to sign my name in a book and then they gave me a ballot. At that time there was a punch machine in the voting booth where I punched holes next to the person that I was voting for. When I came out of the booth my ballot was put through a slot in a locked box. They knew that I voted, but not who I voted for.
With all the mail in voting there is no hiding whose ballot is in the envelope, so if they want to know who you voted for all they have to do is look.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 30, 2017 23:44:38 GMT
When I vote it is just as described in the OP, except that the paper ballot doesn't go in a box per SE...it goes in a machine kind of like an electronic mailbox. I haven't registered with a specific party but do vote in the Caucus (which is by party but I don't recall having to show any party ID when I voted at the caucus, just went to the one that I wanted to). If they get any info on how I voted I suppose it could be from the machine, or they monitor online habits, etc. Who knows.
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 30, 2017 23:46:33 GMT
Do you press a button? It sounds intriguing. I should probably just google. This is what the machines look like in my county www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2009/09/diebold.jpgI have to show my ID and they look up my information on the computer. I don't know if they have my voting history. Registered Democrats and unaffiliated voters may vote in the Democratic primary. Only registered Republicans can vote in the Republican primary. Everyone can vote in the general election. We can also do voting by mail (early voting and absentee voting). Of course I never remember to do this before the election day, so I go to the polling place.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 30, 2017 23:49:40 GMT
They know i voted The know I've switched parties umpteen times for primaries They know which parties primaries ive voted in ( our state has seperate booths for each party and you can only go to one for the primary not both )
But they can't really know exactly who I voted for.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 30, 2017 23:53:33 GMT
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Post by Karene on Jul 1, 2017 0:15:44 GMT
Thanks for all the replies. It is interesting to see the differences.
We don't have primaries. We either vote for the federal government (one person to represent our federal riding), the provincial government (one person to represent our provincial riding), or a few people to represent us in our municipality (mayor, ward, school trustee).
So for federal and provincial elections there is only one person that you are voting for. We don't vote for judges, police, dog catchers etc.
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Post by annaintx on Jul 1, 2017 0:19:43 GMT
I'm in Texas. When I voted in the primaries for president, I had to out loud in front of everyone in line and in the place--tell the person which ballot I wanted--Democrat or Republican. I am not affiliated with any party officially, but if they keep that kind of info on file somewhere, I don't know.
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Post by cycworker on Jul 1, 2017 0:24:36 GMT
Thanks for all the replies. It is interesting to see the differences. We don't have primaries. We either vote for the federal government (one person to represent our federal riding), the provincial government (one person to represent our provincial riding), or a few people to represent us in our municipality (mayor, ward, school trustee). So for federal and provincial elections there is only one person that you are voting for. We don't vote for judges, police, dog catchers etc. We don't have primaries in the same way as the US, but we have a system where each riding / region chooses people to represent them at the leadership conventions for each party, both provincially & federally. So I see some similarities to the primary system. I say that because who is chosen to go to the conventions is determined by a vote, which includes deciding which candidate the riding is going to support. In that sense our system has differences & similarities.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 1, 2017 0:32:12 GMT
Yup,those are our NJ computerized voting machines. Funny thing is that at the primary, with clerks I used to be with, we discussed the old black pull the lever machines. They were more work but I think better, because the actual vote count remained on the machine if there were a problem. Not who vote for who, but the totals for each column. We had those old machines mastered, we were the first district done for years.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Jul 1, 2017 2:04:42 GMT
We have to sign the voter roll, but then I get a paper ballot that I fill out and feed into a scantron machine. If they can link me to my specific vote, that'd be some witchcraft right there.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 1, 2017 2:25:21 GMT
Do you press a button? It sounds intriguing. I should probably just google. This is what the machines look like in my county www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2009/09/diebold.jpgI have to show my ID and they look up my information on the computer. I don't know if they have my voting history. Registered Democrats and unaffiliated voters may vote in the Democratic primary. Only registered Republicans can vote in the Republican primary. Everyone can vote in the general election. We can also do voting by mail (early voting and absentee voting). Of course I never remember to do this before the election day, so I go to the polling place. that is pretty close to ours. Once you submit, it prints on a paper roll where you can see that it has printed what you pushed. Then you scroll to the next page and it prints that. At the end, if you agree it is all correct, it moves your ballot up the roll so all that is showing is white.
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Post by GiantsFan on Jul 1, 2017 2:42:39 GMT
I am in So. Cal. I mail in my vote and my address is on the back of the mail in envelope along with my signature, so if they are looking for who I am it is right there. The ballot inside the envelope has no identifying data like a number or code. Years ago when I used to go to the polling place I had to sign my name in a book and then they gave me a ballot. At that time there was a punch machine in the voting booth where I punched holes next to the person that I was voting for. When I came out of the booth my ballot was put through a slot in a locked box. They knew that I voted, but not who I voted for. With all the mail in voting there is no hiding whose ballot is in the envelope, so if they want to know who you voted for all they have to do is look. This is also how it works in my NorCal county.
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Post by Karene on Jul 1, 2017 3:31:36 GMT
Thanks for all the replies. It is interesting to see the differences. We don't have primaries. We either vote for the federal government (one person to represent our federal riding), the provincial government (one person to represent our provincial riding), or a few people to represent us in our municipality (mayor, ward, school trustee). So for federal and provincial elections there is only one person that you are voting for. We don't vote for judges, police, dog catchers etc. We don't have primaries in the same way as the US, but we have a system where each riding / region chooses people to represent them at the leadership conventions for each party, both provincially & federally. So I see some similarities to the primary system. I say that because who is chosen to go to the conventions is determined by a vote, which includes deciding which candidate the riding is going to support. In that sense our system has differences & similarities. Maybe in some ways, but our party leaders don't change every 4 years.
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