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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 22:13:54 GMT
Reposted because I deleted the first one because I thought I had posted on the wrong board
www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-30/mcdonald-s-loses-27-million-jury-verdict-over-2-deaths.html
Basic details from another article -- 4 kids stop at 24 hr McDonalds and 1 was "beaten to death by a mob", one was injured badly and one died in the car accident that was speeding to get them to a hospital. They were too afraid for their safety to stay at the McDs and call 911. This mob was known to hang out at that McD's after hiphop concerts put on by the manager of the McDonalds. And the police had been called multiple times (I read 200+ in 3 years) over this same group. The 4 kids didn't seem to know that and stopped to get food/go to the bathroom. The manager arranged plenty of security at the concerts but none at the McDs. One article states the mob was over 400 people.
This was a corporate-owned McDs. This jury award was at the end of July.
There is another article that goes a bit more into detail at AmericanThinker.com on 8/21, but I do not know the background on that website.
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Post by kristi on Aug 25, 2014 22:38:55 GMT
I don't see how they can be held liable for the driver that was in a car accident with another vehicle that ran a red light.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 0:07:05 GMT
The driver was fleeing the scene of the crime for the safety of the 4 in the car. I wondered why they didn't call an ambulance -- I assume they feared for their lives and wanted to get the heck out of dodge... They wouldn't have been speeding/going through lights if they weren't trying to get to an emergency room....the hospital is probably 5-10 miles from that location through many intersections. I do agree it could be a stretch on the liability for the death due strictly to the accident. But had it not been for the beating in the parking lot, they wouldn't have been in the situation where the girl would have died.
For 3 years I lived within 6 blocks of that McDonald's back in the late 1980s. And still have family and friends who live in the area. And know kids that attend both TAMU and Blinn...This was the first I had heard of it. But immediately I thought back to the "no loitering more than 30 minutes sign".
Property owners in TX can be held liable for deaths if the prosecutor/jury feels that they have any negligence in a situation. It doesn't even have to be a majority cause for the negligence could be at little as 1%(at least that was how it was about 5-7 years ago and I haven't heard any changes -- I work for a property management company and we were involved in a case that was settled out of court because of this factor).
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Post by oktrae on Aug 26, 2014 1:22:22 GMT
That's really scary. Crowds of any kind bother me so I would have kept driving.
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Post by jmurray on Aug 26, 2014 1:53:13 GMT
I would like to hear the argument as to why McDonalds feel they have no culpability in this situation. Clearly the place is known by police and has been for some time, so I'd have to ask why that has never been addressed. Too many times it takes a tragedy for corporations to act.
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Post by Grom Pea on Aug 26, 2014 4:38:50 GMT
So if this were a mom and pop restaurant with a rogue manager would they still be liable for 27 million dollars? I feel badly forthe people who died but I swear that people see McDonalds as some faceless mega corporation with deep pockets when many of their locations are owned by local franchisees who suffer quite a bit when people sue McDonalds, eg slip and fall in a parking lot.
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