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Post by Tamhugh on Jul 28, 2017 23:15:12 GMT
I wish I had an answer. I hope you know that I am not looking to pick at you. It is something that bothers me as a white woman. My cousin's children are biracial and live in an inner city. I worry about them a lot. I truly believe that big change comes from small, grassroots efforts. I try to confront my own prejudices and change them when I recognize them. Luckily, I have had friends/family who are of other races and sexual orientation whom I have been able to have some difficult discussions with. They have helped me see a side of things that I would never have seen on my own. By better community policing, do you mean relations with the police? I think if they trust one another, the people in those communities would be more willing to report crimes and problems. The police would be less nervous and confrontational. Kids need to grow up knowing that the police are not their enemy. The police need to know that black youth aren't their enemy. No I don't feel picked on but I appreciate the concern and the time you took to respond. However I think it's impossible to expect that black children see the police as protection/good guys when we have Rice, Brown, Edwards, Till as examples. White men are more likely to kill LEO than black teenage boys but the media bias which was the basis of this particular thread would have you believe otherwise. Also there are black people who don't live in violent inner cities. Lots of us. I still wouldn't call the police even if I was sandwiched between two pick up trucks in a dark alley. I have been. I don't think I wasted 20 seconds on the decision of calling the police or exiting my vehicle. That's America for black people nowadays. Have you heard anyone say police need to know white youth aren't the enemy? Why? Because they aren't the ones being killed by the police. And I do recognize that not all black people are living in the inner cities. We live in a very nice suburban area. The minority families here are only different in their skin color. Most of them are well educated, have nice jobs, and in most ways, are just as removed from the issues that we have talked about as I am. Personally, I would like to see more mentoring. More education. Better community programs. But all of that costs money and time.
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Post by *KAS* on Jul 28, 2017 23:39:19 GMT
Why were you in a dark alley? Why were there pick up trucks on either side of you? That sounds like deliberate dangerous behavior. What the hell? Why does it matter - short of somebody saying they were there to do something illegal - matter why somebody happened to be in a dark alley?! Talk about a victim blaming line of thought. Good Lord.
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Post by georgiapea on Jul 29, 2017 1:28:48 GMT
Oh, for Pete's sake, KAS, people normally do not find themselves in dark alleys. They are places a prudent person avoids.
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Post by Clair on Jul 29, 2017 2:07:13 GMT
Oh, for Pete's sake, KAS, people normally do not find themselves in dark alleys. They are places a prudent person avoids. My friends live on the beach - sand in front of their house - alley behind. 5 + million dollar home - dark alley leads to garage. Many homes in my expensive southern cal beach townhave alley access. I cant believe you questioned Olan driving in a dark alley. They are are just a part of some neighborhoods - not a bad thing.
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Post by *KAS* on Jul 29, 2017 3:21:45 GMT
Oh, for Pete's sake, KAS, people normally do not find themselves in dark alleys. They are places a prudent person avoids. Well no, that isn't always the case. In the town I grew up in, there are tons of alleys, and not many street lights. Most people park behind their house. Many have detached garages. Walking or driving in a dark alley is pretty normal for a lot of 'prudent people.'
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Post by Olan on Aug 2, 2017 15:35:53 GMT
Oh, for Pete's sake, KAS, people normally do not find themselves in dark alleys. They are places a prudent person avoids. I've also been in the comfort of my own home where I felt hesitant in calling the police for fear for myself and my attacker. Then last month a woman rear-ended me with no insurance. She started getting agitated when I asked to photograph her license and threatened to call the police....on me! She then told me the only way I would be getting her insurance info is if I "followed her home". I finally left the scene when it become clear she phoned her husband and not the police and he was on his way. Olan a Black woman, a white woman acting victim like saying I didn't have to treat her "like a criminal", a husband on the way and a crap shot given the state I was traveling if I would end up in a Sandra Bland like situation. We've got to assume I'm not the only black person who feels this way
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 13:49:24 GMT
You've made three assumptions that you've numbered and listed and included a little "doesn't fit your agenda" taunt yet I will be accused of shutting down dialogue and 15 people will "like" your comment. I can't though that's bullying hahahahaha! You don't know my agenda unless I've sat you down and told you and I haven't. You are utterly ridiculous anymore. I think it's a fair and reasonable conclusion that most peas know your agenda. Just like you do with going back to the "spreadsheet" looking up all those posts you "liked" to find for easy reference, other peas also can do the same with your history and the words you say--so again, it's not hard to come to a conclusion of what your agenda here is and has been. I’m still waiting for someone to tell me what the fuck my agenda was! I would be downright ASHAMED if I were some of you peas. I know you aren’t but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be. Not even from an I told you so perspective but to see how easy it was for people to speak to me the way that you did. And then vilify me! I laugh now but boy did these threads use to hurt my feelings. papercrafteradvocatelucygWhat was the agenda ladies? What was yours?
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Post by Olan on Mar 18, 2021 13:56:50 GMT
July 2017 Thread started by zookeeper The title originally contained royal bitch. 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/64733/olan-sweetest-peaThis is how I was treated as a Black woman for simply talking about race relations on a message board with white women. Imagine if any one of you were spurred to action instead of deciding I was the enemy. No apologies or rehashing but I won’t ever stop talking about how I was treated and complicit most were in those attacks.
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