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Post by Olan on Jul 4, 2017 10:15:52 GMT
...the road rage case in Chester County, Pa? Notice all the coverage focusing on his character? How many of his former co-workers will they find to interview? This is what happens when you are a white man "accused" of killing someone with a registered gun. Everyone talks about how nice of a kid you were or how you loved drag racing You are utterly ridiculous anymore. I think it's a fair and reasonable conclusion that most peas know your agenda. Just like you do with going back to the "spreadsheet" looking up all those posts you "liked" to find for easy reference, other peas also can do the same with your history and the words you say--so again, it's not hard to come to a conclusion of what your agenda here is and has been. I’m still waiting for someone to tell me what the fuck my agenda was! I would be downright ASHAMED if I were some of you peas. I know you aren’t but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be. Not even from an I told you so perspective but to see how easy it was for people to speak to me the way that you did. And then vilify me! I laugh now but boy did these threads use to hurt my feelings. |
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Post by michellegb on Jul 4, 2017 10:39:52 GMT
I've been following it and isn't that the way it always is? The wrongdoer is always a nice, quiet person and people are surprised that this happened. How often do you hear anyone say they were completely f'd up in the head and they knew it was just a matter of time until they snapped?
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Post by Olan on Jul 4, 2017 10:56:38 GMT
I've been following it and isn't that the way it always is? The wrongdoer is always a nice, quiet person and people are surprised that this happened. How often do you hear anyone say they were completely f'd up in the head and they knew it was just a matter of time until they snapped? When they are black men. Usually they are so dead they can't defend themselves but no one interviews the gas station owner, or the kid at the Montessori school to shed light on the character of black people. We are always vilified guilty or innocent. |
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Post by Zee on Jul 4, 2017 14:13:27 GMT
Yes I have been, because it's fairly local to me. I haven't noticed anyone commenting on his character other than to note what a lowlife psycho he must be to kill a girl like that, especially over something so trivial as merging.
They are now focusing on motive, from what I read this morning, to determine if rather than simple road rage if there was a racial component.
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Post by Olan on Jul 4, 2017 20:06:31 GMT
Yes I have been, because it's fairly local to me. I haven't noticed anyone commenting on his character other than to note what a lowlife psycho he must be to kill a girl like that, especially over something so trivial as merging. They are now focusing on motive, from what I read this morning, to determine if rather than simple road rage if there was a racial component. It's not local to me yet somehow I know the killer loves drag racing and worked a blue collar welding job of some kind. I don't know any small fact about the 18 year old he murdered outside of the fact that she was a recent high school graduate...like a lot of 18 year old kids. The guy in Chicago who told the black people in Starbucks they were slaves and then sucker punked a homeless man...yet you guessed it tons of "character witnesses". He isn't racist, just mentally ill they said. Like the two aren't mutually exclusive |
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Post by ginacivey on Jul 4, 2017 20:33:16 GMT
How often do you hear anyone say they were completely f'd up in the head and they knew it was just a matter of time until they snapped? actually - there was a botched burglary turned murder and all the comments were how fucked up the burglar was been nuts his whole life but back to the OP - how do you convince the media to treat the accused the same across the board? gina |
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Post by AnotherPea on Jul 4, 2017 20:40:40 GMT
I know what tree you're trying to bark up, Olan, but I think it's the wrong one here. I seem to remember Michael Brown being a sweet, teddy bear. A simple teen boy that was innocently walking down the street when a mean old white man decided, just out of the blue, to shoot him.
the media is going to spin their stories, release their sparsely researched nuggets, however it is going to sell best. Race only factors in when it serves the bottom line.
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Post by 16joy on Jul 4, 2017 20:46:05 GMT
The charged person usually has someone who gets in front of a microphone declaring what a nice person he/she is. This has been happening forever. White, black, roygbiv...the arrested always has a person willing to say he/she is great. It really doesn't matter if it's a violent crime or not.
My memory stinks but I think I read she was going to college...I want to say to become a nurse. Again, my memory may not be reliable.
It's a senseless crime that deserves the maximum sentence.
I have someone related to me who was charged with shoplifting. The only person who can't believe it is her mother. Everyone else in the ifamily isn't surprised and won't be surprised when she's picked up for something else. Her mother will continue to live in denial that she doesn't have an angel.
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Post by Olan on Jul 4, 2017 21:07:48 GMT
The charged person usually has someone who gets in front of a microphone declaring what a nice person he/she is. This has been happening forever. White, black, roygbiv...the arrested always has a person willing to say he/she is great. It really doesn't matter if it's a violent crime or not. My memory stinks but I think I read she was going to college...I want to say to become a nurse. Again, my memory may not be reliable. It's a senseless crime that deserves the maximum sentence. I have someone related to me who was charged with shoplifting. The only person who can't believe it is her mother. Everyone else in the ifamily isn't surprised and won't be surprised when she's picked up for something else. Her mother will continue to live in denial that she doesn't have an angel. For at least 24 hours she was the only known component of this case so you'd think someone could spin up a story to tell us where she was accepted or something. And we can bet that every white man fitting his description or driving a red pick up truck wasn't pulled over during the days that followed. It didn't happen. |
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Post by flanz on Jul 4, 2017 21:14:44 GMT
...the road rage case in Chester County, Pa? Notice all the coverage focusing on his character? How many of his former co-workers will they find to interview? This is what happens when you are a white man "accused" of killing someone with a registered gun. Everyone talks about how nice of a kid you were or how you loved drag racing It's despicable and wrong, and yes, this white woman thinks a black man would be treated VERY differently. GRRRR!!! |
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 4, 2017 21:21:43 GMT
I hear you, olan. It is systemic racism at play when it comes to media coverage.
Not sure if you saw the articles about finding Thomas Jefferson's "mistress" Sally Hemings's residence/room. Um, she was a slave. Not a mistress. Mistress implies choice.
So, I get you. I very much wonder if this young lady would be dead if she was white.
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Post by Zee on Jul 4, 2017 21:26:58 GMT
I can't remember what school she was going to but it was mentioned many times here. Her cousins just performed at the WaWa Hoagie Fest and her father was interviewed, as her family has been numerous times.
The only thing I know about the man is that he has a red truck, he turned himself in after a "massive manhunt" (the term the news used), and he bought the gun legally in 2015.
There has been an outpouring of sympathy for the victim and her family, locally anyway.
I'm glad to know they're digging into his character and background, it might help them decide whether he will be charged with a hate crime or not.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 4, 2017 21:29:04 GMT
Bianca Roberson liked to play basketball, she liked watching sports. She was a happy and joyful person. She just gratuated from Rustin high school and planned to attend Jacksonville university in Florida. She hoped to one day be an FBI agent. Just prior to her murder she was shopping with her grandmother.
I don't know where you get your news from but I don't know anything about her killer except his name, his mug shot, that he was an asshat in a red pickup with a 40caliper gun. The incident was caught on traffic cams. The police had plenty of evidence. We could all benefit from selecting better news sources
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 21:40:13 GMT
I can't remember what school she was going to but it was mentioned many times here. Her cousins just performed at the WaWa Hoagie Fest and her father was interviewed, as her family has been numerous times. The only thing I know about the man is that he has a red truck, he turned himself in after a "massive manhunt" (the term the news used), and he bought the gun legally in 2015. There has been an outpouring of sympathy for the victim and her family, locally anyway. I'm glad to know they're digging into his character and background, it might help them decide whether he will be charged with a hate crime or not. This^^^ Our news has had a lot of coverage on the girl. It is heartbreaking that such a bright young life has been taken. |
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Post by Olan on Jul 4, 2017 21:43:30 GMT
Bianca Roberson liked to play basketball, she liked watching sports. She was a happy and joyful person. She just gratuated from Rustin high school and planned to attend Jacksonville university in Florida. She hoped to one day be an FBI agent. Just prior to her murder she was shopping with her grandmother. I don't know where you get your news from but I don't know anything about her killer except his name, his mug shot, that he was an asshat in a red pickup with a 40caliper gun. The incident was caught on traffic cams. The police had plenty of evidence. We could all benefit from selecting better news sources I followed from the start so I know the details surrounding the actual crime and the "manhunt". I had to google to find a news story about his subsequent arrest. Those details about Bianca weren't mentioned in any news story I read or watched. But you're probably right it's my media choices and nothing else *winks*. |
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Post by hop2 on Jul 4, 2017 22:22:37 GMT
Bianca Roberson liked to play basketball, she liked watching sports. She was a happy and joyful person. She just gratuated from Rustin high school and planned to attend Jacksonville university in Florida. She hoped to one day be an FBI agent. Just prior to her murder she was shopping with her grandmother. I don't know where you get your news from but I don't know anything about her killer except his name, his mug shot, that he was an asshat in a red pickup with a 40caliper gun. The incident was caught on traffic cams. The police had plenty of evidence. We could all benefit from selecting better news sources I followed from the start so I know the details surrounding the actual crime and the "manhunt". I had to google to find a news story about his subsequent arrest. Those details about Bianca weren't mentioned in any news story I read or watched. But you're probably right it's my media choices and nothing else *winks*. Honestly Olan it took me a minute or less to find out things about Bianca. So this time is definitely is about your media choices and what you choose to look for and what you choose to see. I knew infirmation about Bianca was out there because I had already read things about her. But I checked again before I posted to be sure. Less than a minute plenty of information about what a wonderful person she was. No one is trying to hide that she was smart, joyful, young person who did not deserve to be murdered. You can 'wink' all you want to but that does make it so. Sometimes your creating what YOU want to see instead of what's really there. But carry on, your going to anyway. |
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Post by Olan on Jul 4, 2017 22:36:42 GMT
I followed from the start so I know the details surrounding the actual crime and the "manhunt". I had to google to find a news story about his subsequent arrest. Those details about Bianca weren't mentioned in any news story I read or watched. But you're probably right it's my media choices and nothing else *winks*. Honestly Olan it took me a minute or less to find out things about Bianca. So this time is definitely is about your media choices and what you choose to look for and what you choose to see. I knew infirmation about Bianca was out there because I had already read things about her. But I checked again before I posted to be sure. Less than a minute plenty of information about what a wonderful person she was. No one is trying to hide that she was smart, joyful, young person who did not deserve to be murdered. You can 'wink' all you want to but that does make it so. Sometimes your creating what YOU want to see instead of what's really there. But carry on, your going to anyway. I agree I could have found the coverage you found if I had went searching as you did but my point was when a white man commits a crime he is a great co-worker and avid xyz. No matter how heinous his crime is. I didn't have to try to gather that information at all. It was given to me. I had to search for how this massive manhunt ended and even from that article I only learned that Bianca was on her way home from shopping with female relatives no other humanizing details or those interviews with her family. I'd love to know why the massive manhunt didn't result in him being apprehended by police. Dude was likely able to have a final meal with friends, have a couple drag races, and sit down with his attorney to plan a defense. If the suspect was black you'd probably have at least two dead innocent black men they pulled over in red pick up trucks. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 4, 2017 22:46:11 GMT
When they are black men. Usually they are so dead they can't defend themselves but no one interviews the gas station owner, or the kid at the Montessori school to shed light on the character of black people. We are always vilified guilty or innocent. I don't think that is true in all cases. I know many details about Philando Castile. How he worked in the school cafeteria. how all the kids loved him, etc etc. I also know his problems with traffic tickets, and the cops work history. |
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Post by Olan on Jul 4, 2017 22:48:54 GMT
When they are black men. Usually they are so dead they can't defend themselves but no one interviews the gas station owner, or the kid at the Montessori school to shed light on the character of black people. We are always vilified guilty or innocent. I don't think that is true in all cases. I know many details about Philando Castile. How he worked in the school cafeteria. how all the kids loved him, etc etc. I also know his problems with traffic tickets, and the cops work history. Right. I recall you saying that. Then the only detail you managed to share is how the child who witnessed his murder wasn't biologically his. Another pea claimed to be best friends with a mom whose son attended the same school Castile worked at. I asked her if the school honored him in some way and she never replied. |
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Post by hop2 on Jul 4, 2017 23:00:28 GMT
Honestly Olan it took me a minute or less to find out things about Bianca. So this time is definitely is about your media choices and what you choose to look for and what you choose to see. I knew infirmation about Bianca was out there because I had already read things about her. But I checked again before I posted to be sure. Less than a minute plenty of information about what a wonderful person she was. No one is trying to hide that she was smart, joyful, young person who did not deserve to be murdered. You can 'wink' all you want to but that does make it so. Sometimes your creating what YOU want to see instead of what's really there. But carry on, your going to anyway. I agree I could have found the coverage you found if I had went searching as you did but my point was when a white man commits a crime he is a great co-worker and avid xyz. No matter how heinous his crime is. I didn't have to try to gather that information at all. It was given to me. I had to search for how this massive manhunt ended and even from that article I only learned that Bianca was on her way home from shopping with female relatives no other humanizing details or those interviews with her family. I'd love to know why the massive manhunt didn't result in him being apprehended by police. Dude was likely able to have a final meal with friends, have a couple drag races, and sit down with his attorney to plan a defense. If the suspect was black you'd probably have at least two dead innocent black men they pulled over in red pick up trucks. Maybe it's my news sources but I haven't seen anything positive about the guy who killed her. News said he was quiet but that's not really positive. I'll admit I haven't watched any network coverage at all. Just some local Philly pieces Frankly I don't care what he was, he's a dirtbag and I would look for info about him at all. He doesn't deserve my time. Only thing I want to hear about him is he's convicted and sentenced. She on the other hand deserves my time to read about her. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 5, 2017 0:06:41 GMT
I followed from the start so I know the details surrounding the actual crime and the "manhunt". I had to google to find a news story about his subsequent arrest. Those details about Bianca weren't mentioned in any news story I read or watched. But you're probably right it's my media choices and nothing else *winks*. Honestly Olan it took me a minute or less to find out things about Bianca. So this time is definitely is about your media choices and what you choose to look for and what you choose to see. I knew infirmation about Bianca was out there because I had already read things about her. But I checked again before I posted to be sure. Less than a minute plenty of information about what a wonderful person she was. No one is trying to hide that she was smart, joyful, young person who did not deserve to be murdered. You can 'wink' all you want to but that does make it so. Sometimes your creating what YOU want to see instead of what's really there. But carry on, your going to anyway. I agree with you hop2Our local news was reporting on this- When this happened, all we knew was all about her, what she had been doing (shopping with relatives) and that she had just graduated, was a beautiful, bright soul and on her way to college in the fall. I heard/read comments from her relatives about how wonderful a girl she was. The only thing that I heard about the shooter was "red truck" "male" and "possible road rage". I think that the video footage the police immediately obtained and put out for people to view to have the population help find the shooter was a good thing, and when they did find the vehicle, the evidence led to a quick arrest, another good thing. The media is quoting people who knew the shooter. It's not wrong that they stated he was a calm, good (whatever) guy. It's how those people knew him. I believe that especially in this instance, if anyone of those who knew him thought him to be a gun toting psycho, they would have said that and the media reported that. The police are certainly not saying anything other than it being such a heinous crime. |
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Post by destined2bmom on Jul 5, 2017 0:25:55 GMT
I can't remember what school she was going to but it was mentioned many times here. Her cousins just performed at the WaWa Hoagie Fest and her father was interviewed, as her family has been numerous times. The only thing I know about the man is that he has a red truck, he turned himself in after a "massive manhunt" (the term the news used), and he bought the gun legally in 2015. There has been an outpouring of sympathy for the victim and her family, locally anyway. I'm glad to know they're digging into his character and background, it might help them decide whether he will be charged with a hate crime or not. This is also somewhat local to me. There has been a huge outpouring by the public to help the police solve this crime. It has been heartbreaking for Bianca's family. The criminal turned himself in; because the police had identified him. They have charged him with both first and third degree murder. The police are now looking into both of their lives to see if he followed her or had any other interactions with her. They want to charge him with everything they can. Olan, I have not seen or heard anything nice said about this guy. In fact, just the opposite. It has angered many people. Can you imagine how her mom and grandmother feel? They had just been shopping with her at the mall and then she never came home; because of this creep. |
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Post by AussieMeg on Jul 5, 2017 0:30:50 GMT
Admittedly I've only read 2 stories about this horrific incident, but both of them were along these lines: I can't remember what school she was going to but it was mentioned many times here. Her cousins just performed at the WaWa Hoagie Fest and her father was interviewed, as her family has been numerous times. The only thing I know about the man is that he has a red truck, he turned himself in after a "massive manhunt" (the term the news used), and he bought the gun legally in 2015. Bianca Roberson liked to play basketball, she liked watching sports. She was a happy and joyful person. She just gratuated from Rustin high school and planned to attend Jacksonville university in Florida. She hoped to one day be an FBI agent. Just prior to her murder she was shopping with her grandmother. I don't know where you get your news from but I don't know anything about her killer except his name, his mug shot, that he was an asshat in a red pickup with a 40caliper gun. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 5, 2017 0:34:58 GMT
Right. I recall you saying that. Then the only detail you managed to share is how the child who witnessed his murder wasn't biologically his. Another pea claimed to be best friends with a mom whose son attended the same school Castile worked at. I asked her if the school honored him in some way and she never replied. I only responded to what was posted on the thread. Someone mentioned the girl in the car was his. She wasn't. It was a small detail that was mentioned here in MN, so thought I would share. I shouldn't have. I had nothing else to share at that point, so I bowed out. |
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2017 0:38:19 GMT
For the record I am not suggesting that the media tried to paint Bianca in a negative light. How could they? What I am pointing out is how there is never a rush to vilify the monsters who shoot teenage girls merging into traffic. Why aren't white men treated as dangerous as they have actually proven themselves to be? Guess who kill LEOs in far greater numbers than black people yet a cop is always afraid for his life while pulling over black men/women. How?
Meanwhile innocent (dead) black people have to work backwards by convincing society why they didn't deserve a bullet in head though they were unarmed and hadn't been caught killing someone in cold blood on camera. I mean really think about who commits mass murders or has the highest propensity for violence. Did white men get lynched? Are black men most likely to commit rape? Who forcibly brought who here? Who carried out atrocities against several different ethnic groups? Who is ruining America right now? I mean seriously.
Also did anyone notice how everyone loves discussing the Michael Browns (who deserve to live) but never want to discuss the Jordan Edward's outside of suggesting he would still be alive if he hadn't been at a party with underage drinking like one pea had the audacity to say.
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2017 0:45:52 GMT
Right. I recall you saying that. Then the only detail you managed to share is how the child who witnessed his murder wasn't biologically his. Another pea claimed to be best friends with a mom whose son attended the same school Castile worked at. I asked her if the school honored him in some way and she never replied. I only responded to what was posted on the thread. Someone mentioned the girl in the car was his. She wasn't. It was a small detail that was mentioned here in MN, so thought I would share. I shouldn't have. I had nothing else to share at that point, so I bowed out. Above you say you know many details. Here you say you had nothing else to share. Which one is it? What I am reading is the child being biologically someone else's was the only information you wanted to share. You knew the relevancy by how you worded your response. |
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Post by stampinchick on Jul 5, 2017 0:57:48 GMT
This is somewhat local to me so it's been all over the news and social media. I have heard or read nothing about the guy other than the color of his truck, that the police received hundreds of tips, his gun was registered and he turned himself in. EVERY single comment I have read was about him being a scum for doing this. Do a search for the story on WPVI, WCAU or CBS 3 Facebook pages and see what everyone has said.
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2017 1:32:43 GMT
This is somewhat local to me so it's been all over the news and social media. I have heard or read nothing about the guy other than the color of his truck, that the police received hundreds of tips, his gun was registered and he turned himself in. EVERY single comment I have read was about him being a scum for doing this. Do a search for the story on WPVI, WCAU or CBS 3 Facebook pages and see what everyone has said. The issue isn't my media choices or that I haven't searched enough. I get that more thorough/factual news stories are available. My point is when I searched "road rage murder" to see if they had caught the killer the first news story mentions "even keeled" "renovating his home with a male roommate" "nice kid" "blue collar" etc. in the same article it mentions about half that "endearing" information about the victim. Why? Her family wasn't made aware that her death was caused by a gun shot wound to the head until Thursday evening. Sunday at 2:30 a.m. after a massive manhunt he turns himself in? How massive was the manhunt? How many white men in red pick up trucks were stopped in the state of PA between Wednesday and Sunday? That's information I would like. Not what monsters like to do in their free time. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 5, 2017 2:03:12 GMT
Above you say you know many details. Here you say you had nothing else to share. Which one is it? What I am reading is the child being biologically someone else's was the only information you wanted to share. You knew the relevancy by how you worded your response. The many details I said I knew, was in response to this thread, where you are saying the media doesn't talk about the good points. They were already mentioned in the previous thread, so I didn't need to mention them. I feel like you try to pick a fight, or try to prove something and people wrong. I really don't have anything to prove, and was posting in good faith. So I'm out here too. |
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Post by padresfan619 on Jul 5, 2017 2:06:49 GMT
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You are utterly ridiculous anymore.
