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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2017 2:22:41 GMT
Above you say you know many details. Here you say you had nothing else to share. Which one is it? What I am reading is the child being biologically someone else's was the only information you wanted to share. You knew the relevancy by how you worded your response. The many details I said I knew, was in response to this thread, where you are saying the media doesn't talk about the good points. They were already mentioned in the previous thread, so I didn't need to mention them. I feel like you try to pick a fight, or try to prove something and people wrong. I really don't have anything to prove, and was posting in good faith. So I'm out here too. My point wasn't the media doesn't talk about the good points. I don't know what you mean by that. You realize losing "this fight" wouldn't be a bad thing. Me being right isn't good for me or anyone who looks like me. So no I wasn't trying to prove you wrong though it wasn't hard. The thread remains 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/63158/philando-castile-justiceAnd your quotes here will remain even when you've made the choice to bow out of this thread.
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Post by frenchie on Jul 5, 2017 2:29:14 GMT
I live and work in the same community that Bianca did. Obviously, our local news will be more detailed than news in other areas. There has been a lot of support for the Roberson family, and that is how it should be.There is a Go Fund Me page that has raised over $40,000.00 in 5 days, and I expect that amount to keep climbing.
From what I understand, it was not realized that she had been shot right away. Her car swerved off the road and hit a tree, and I heard that they first thought her injuries were from the car hitting the tree. So it may not have been until the autopsy that they realized she had a gunshot wound to her head.
Once the suspect was identified, the media interviewed people who have known him. My opinion is that they did it because people cannot fathom what kind of person could do something like this. There has been nothing positive said about him. People are outraged that he took the life of this beautiful young woman.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 2:40:27 GMT
Police had the vehicle ID from surveillance tapes so they weren't looking for a red pickup, but the red pickup. He didn't turn himself in after a massive manhunt; the manhunt ended because he turned himself in. How massive did the manhunt need to be adequate in your eyes? Do you believe police weren't interested in actually catching the suspect?
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2017 3:29:38 GMT
Police had the vehicle ID from surveillance tapes so they weren't looking for a red pickup, but the red pickup. He didn't turn himself in after a massive manhunt; the manhunt ended because he turned himself in. How massive did the manhunt need to be adequate in your eyes? Do you believe police weren't interested in actually catching the suspect? I don't have a measure for how massive the manhunt needed to be my observation was how massive could the hunt have been that an already identified killer wasn't apprehended before turning himself in. No I don't believe police were completely uninterested in finding the man seen in the videos.
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2017 3:33:19 GMT
I live and work in the same community that Bianca did. Obviously, our local news will be more detailed than news in other areas. There has been a lot of support for the Roberson family, and that is how it should be.There is a Go Fund Me page that has raised over $40,000.00 in 5 days, and I expect that amount to keep climbing. From what I understand, it was not realized that she had been shot right away. Her car swerved off the road and hit a tree, and I heard that they first thought her injuries were from the car hitting the tree. So it may not have been until the autopsy that they realized she had a gunshot wound to her head. Once the suspect was identified, the media interviewed people who have known him. My opinion is that they did it because people cannot fathom what kind of person could do something like this. There has been nothing positive said about him. People are outraged that he took the life of this beautiful young woman. I didn't know there was uncertainty about what caused her death. I thought it was immediately known that she had a gunshot wound to the head and that a road rage event caused it. Glad that your community is rallying for the Roberson family.
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Post by stampinchick on Jul 5, 2017 3:47:38 GMT
This is somewhat local to me so it's been all over the news and social media. I have heard or read nothing about the guy other than the color of his truck, that the police received hundreds of tips, his gun was registered and he turned himself in. EVERY single comment I have read was about him being a scum for doing this. Do a search for the story on WPVI, WCAU or CBS 3 Facebook pages and see what everyone has said. The issue isn't my media choices or that I haven't searched enough. I get that more thorough/factual news stories are available. My point is when I searched "road rage murder" to see if they had caught the killer the first news story mentions "even keeled" "renovating his home with a male roommate" "nice kid" "blue collar" etc. in the same article it mentions about half that "endearing" information about the victim. Why? Her family wasn't made aware that her death was caused by a gun shot wound to the head until Thursday evening. Sunday at 2:30 a.m. after a massive manhunt he turns himself in? How massive was the manhunt? How many white men in red pick up trucks were stopped in the state of PA between Wednesday and Sunday? That's information I would like. Not what monsters like to do in their free time. I have no idea where you are getting your info. I did a search on "Chester County road rage" and this is the very first article that shows up. No mention whatsoever of people saying he was a nice kid, etc. news reportDo you actually think he was driving that truck around afterwards, knowing that every news outlet was talking about how the police were looking for a red pickup truck? If you bother to read the article you'll see that the truck was found outside of a home located elsewhere. And if you did as much research as you claim you've done you would know that the description that an eye witness gave said he had blonde hair. The police sketch looked NOTHING like this guy. So many comments on social media have been about how nobody would have known it was this guy based on the police sketch. If the police had stopped every blonde man driving a red pickup truck in PA, NJ, NY, DE and MD they never would have found him. Would you have found him based on that police sketch? Obviously the witness got a quick glance at him and totally missed the facial hair. There have been a lot of comments that he probably dyed his hair but based on the stubble on his neck I don't think so. Also, a massive manhunt in West Goshen Township is going to be much smaller than a massive manhunt in Philadelphia. Save
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Post by Olan on Jul 5, 2017 4:08:59 GMT
The issue isn't my media choices or that I haven't searched enough. I get that more thorough/factual news stories are available. My point is when I searched "road rage murder" to see if they had caught the killer the first news story mentions "even keeled" "renovating his home with a male roommate" "nice kid" "blue collar" etc. in the same article it mentions about half that "endearing" information about the victim. Why? Her family wasn't made aware that her death was caused by a gun shot wound to the head until Thursday evening. Sunday at 2:30 a.m. after a massive manhunt he turns himself in? How massive was the manhunt? How many white men in red pick up trucks were stopped in the state of PA between Wednesday and Sunday? That's information I would like. Not what monsters like to do in their free time. I have no idea where you are getting your info. I did a search on "Chester County road rage" and this is the very first article that shows up. No mention whatsoever of people saying he was a nice kid, etc. news reportDo you actually think he was driving that truck around afterwards, knowing that every news outlet was talking about how the police were looking for a red pickup truck? If you bother to read the article you'll see that the truck was found outside of a home located elsewhere. And if you did as much research as you claim you've done you would know that the description that an eye witness gave said he had blonde hair. The police sketch looked NOTHING like this guy. So many comments on social media have been about how nobody would have known it was this guy based on the police sketch. If the police had stopped every blonde man driving a red pickup truck in PA, NJ, NY, DE and MD they never would have found him. Would you have found him based on that police sketch? Obviously the witness got a quick glance at him and totally missed the facial hair. There have been a lot of comments that he probably dyed his hair but based on the stubble on his neck I don't think so. Also, a massive manhunt in West Goshen Township is going to be much smaller than a massive manhunt in Philadelphia. SaveNothing you've said is new to me. Obviously if I cared enough to find out how the manhunt ended and wasn't pleased with the second news piece I saw on the case one would realize I wouldn't stop at that one search result. The point I am making is one you're likely missing on purpose. I explained how I found the news article including the keywords that I searched and the website I used. I've also said several times what this horrible crime should illustrate to you about society and the justice system.
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Post by happymomma on Jul 5, 2017 4:35:45 GMT
I follow so much true crime that nothing surprises me much anymore. Although I certainly feel sad for all innocent victims, horrible acts have become a part of what we read every day these days. However, seeing the story on this beautiful young woman actually made me cry tears. Such a promising life, gone in an instant. What a loss to our world. My heart breaks for those who loved her.
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Post by MsKnit on Jul 5, 2017 5:18:29 GMT
As far as I can tell:
Thursday: Bianca is shot Friday: They have implemented a manhunt across 3 states and are calling for the perpetrator to turn himself in. Have an incorrect description of perpetrator. Sunday: Perpetrator has turned himself in
Where exactly is the issue in this timeline? Life isn't an episode of Law & Order or CSI. The accused/perpetrator isn't found in 30 minutes.
The timeline doesn't raise any red flags. If the POS turned himself in during the wee hours of Sunday morning, the timeline looks even better.
I hope the guy rots in prison.
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Post by tincin on Jul 5, 2017 5:23:59 GMT
I know what tree you're trying to bark up, Olan, but I think it's the wrong one here. I seem to remember Michael Brown being a sweet, teddy bear. A simple teen boy that was innocently walking down the street when a mean old white man decided, just out of the blue, to shoot him. the media is going to spin their stories, release their sparsely researched nuggets, however it is going to sell best. Race only factors in when it serves the bottom line. I think she barking up the right tree. People of color are guilty until proven innocent far too often in this country, and that's if they live long enough to prove their innocence.
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Post by tincin on Jul 5, 2017 5:33:10 GMT
For the record I am not suggesting that the media tried to paint Bianca in a negative light. How could they? What I am pointing out is how there is never a rush to vilify the monsters who shoot teenage girls merging into traffic. Why aren't white men treated as dangerous as they have actually proven themselves to be? Guess who kill LEOs in far greater numbers than black people yet a cop is always afraid for his life while pulling over black men/women. How? Meanwhile innocent (dead) black people have to work backwards by convincing society why they didn't deserve a bullet in head though they were unarmed and hadn't been caught killing someone in cold blood on camera. I mean really think about who commits mass murders or has the highest propensity for violence. Did white men get lynched? Are black men most likely to commit rape? Who forcibly brought who here? Who carried out atrocities against several different ethnic groups? Who is ruining America right now? I mean seriously. Also did anyone notice how everyone loves discussing the Michael Browns (who deserve to live) but never want to discuss the Jordan Edward's outside of suggesting he would still be alive if he hadn't been at a party with underage drinking like one pea had the audacity to say. For the very same reason that although white men have committed the vast majority of mass shootings in this country, we're still hunting for terrorists around every corner. White men control this country, the news media and the money so they can paint themselves in a very good light.
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Post by melanell on Jul 5, 2017 14:31:08 GMT
Yes I have been, because it's fairly local to me. I haven't noticed anyone commenting on his character other than to note what a lowlife psycho he must be to kill a girl like that, especially over something so trivial as merging. I have not yet read any of the articles, because some days I just choose not to purposely read about people doing horrible things to one another. I have, however seen her photo on my FB page several times with a brief headline about some asshole killing a young woman over merging into traffic and the only comments I have seen have been just as z*g mentioned----that the guy is an asshole, a psycho, deranged, etc., etc. I haven't seen a photo of him yet and no one on the posts on my feed have said anything about the guy other than their own extremely negative opinions. I didn't even know the race of the guy until I read this thread. I didn't know his name, his age---anything at all. All I knew was that he snuffed out the life of a young woman for no reason at all. Save
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Post by Olan on Jul 10, 2017 22:21:37 GMT
As far as I can tell: Thursday: Bianca is shot Friday: They have implemented a manhunt across 3 states and are calling for the perpetrator to turn himself in. Have an incorrect description of perpetrator. Sunday: Perpetrator has turned himself in Where exactly is the issue in this timeline? Life isn't an episode of Law & Order or CSI. The accused/perpetrator isn't found in 30 minutes. The timeline doesn't raise any red flags. If the POS turned himself in during the wee hours of Sunday morning, the timeline looks even better. I hope the guy rots in prison. She was killed on Wednesday evening. Around 5:30. I didn't suggest that the case should have played out like a Law and Order episode with a quick capture though I do wonder how quickly the killer would have been apprehended if someone reported it was a black man who killed a white teenage girl. Or what the massive manhunt would have looked like if some circumstances were different. Everyone is sharing what their Facebook feed looked like and the commentary under the news articles but if Ive not learned anything its never to read the comment section in news articles *shrugs* I was pointing out how dangerous white men are and how society has somehow given them a pass instead opting to label black people super predators. Totally disregarding who has the real propensity for violence. A LEO was killed near Fort Drum yesterday. A solider (who could have very well been on someones force even with his history of domestic violence and a less than honorable discharge...because that who makes up our police force now) killed him as he responded to a domestic violence dispatch. Life and death call but because they've become so acclimated to drawing their guns on unarmed black people they can't recognize real danger.
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Post by Olan on Jul 10, 2017 22:46:55 GMT
I hear you, olan. It is systemic racism at play when it comes to media coverage. Not sure if you saw the articles about finding Thomas Jefferson's "mistress" Sally Hemings's residence/room. Um, she was a slave. Not a mistress. Mistress implies choice. So, I get you. I very much wonder if this young lady would be dead if she was white. I did see the new discovery. I thought about starting a thread but I knew what the response would be. I also didn't have the time to devote to the peas that day
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Post by *KAS* on Jul 15, 2017 13:11:56 GMT
Is the thread you were saying nobody was responding to, and you wondered why?
I have 2 reasons:
1. I've been out of town working for a couple of weeks, not watching TV, so other than seeing the girl's photo and knowing there was some sort of road rage thing, I know nothing of this story. (And I wasn't on the board last night).
2. I got WAY too over-invested at 2peas during the Trayvon Martin case (defending Trayvon, to be clear) and it got ugly, so I vowed to keep my time here on light and fluffy things moving forward. Beyoncé babies = a fluffy thread (or so I thought).
I'm sure many people feel the same way about their time here. I generally stay away from controversy and politics. I don't like to invite drama.
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Post by Olan on Jul 15, 2017 13:36:22 GMT
Is the thread you were saying nobody was responding to, and you wondered why? I have 2 reasons: 1. I've been out of town working for a couple of weeks, not watching TV, so other than seeing the girl's photo and knowing there was some sort of road rage thing, I know nothing of this story. (And I wasn't on the board last night). 2. I got WAY too over-invested at 2peas during the Trayvon Martin case (defending Trayvon, to be clear) and it got ugly, so I vowed to keep my time here on light and fluffy things moving forward. Beyoncé babies = a fluffy thread (or so I thought). I'm sure many people feel the same way about their time here. I generally stay away from controversy and politics. I don't like to invite drama. This isn't the thread. I was late for yoga so now I am heading for a chicken biscuit. Peas win.
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Post by Tamhugh on Jul 15, 2017 14:09:49 GMT
Like Frenchie and Z*G, this is fairly local to me. I know where this young lady graduated from, where she was planning to attend college and what she hoped to study. I know that she appeared to be very much loved by her family, friends, and classmates/teachers. All of this came from the Philadelphia news outlets. I have heard nothing positive about the POS that killed her.
While I agree that racism is still a very serious problem in this country, I think that looking for a racist motive behind every little thing that happens does not help move the conversation in the right direction. A relative and I recently had a heated argument on this topic and it just reinforced for me that we are moving further away from a solution than closer to one.
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 15, 2017 14:23:27 GMT
Wow, she's beautiful!
(I haven't followed the case at all, other than seeing headlines about a road rage incident in which someone was killed - race not mentioned - so I'm going to refrain from commenting about it. )
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Post by Olan on Jul 24, 2017 22:33:16 GMT
I think that looking for a racist motive behind every little thing that happens does not help move the conversation in the right direction. What would move the conversation in the right direction?
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Post by lucyg on Jul 25, 2017 5:23:44 GMT
As far as I can tell: Thursday: Bianca is shot Friday: They have implemented a manhunt across 3 states and are calling for the perpetrator to turn himself in. Have an incorrect description of perpetrator. Sunday: Perpetrator has turned himself in Where exactly is the issue in this timeline? Life isn't an episode of Law & Order or CSI. The accused/perpetrator isn't found in 30 minutes. The timeline doesn't raise any red flags. If the POS turned himself in during the wee hours of Sunday morning, the timeline looks even better. I hope the guy rots in prison. She was killed on Wednesday evening. Around 5:30. I didn't suggest that the case should have played out like a Law and Order episode with a quick capture though I do wonder how quickly the killer would have been apprehended if someone reported it was a black man who killed a white teenage girl. Or what the massive manhunt would have looked like if some circumstances were different. Everyone is sharing what their Facebook feed looked like and the commentary under the news articles but if Ive not learned anything its never to read the comment section in news articles *shrugs* I was pointing out how dangerous white men are and how society has somehow given them a pass instead opting to label black people super predators. Totally disregarding who has the real propensity for violence. A LEO was killed near Fort Drum yesterday. A solider (who could have very well been on someones force even with his history of domestic violence and a less than honorable discharge...because that who makes up our police force now) killed him as he responded to a domestic violence dispatch. Life and death call but because they've become so acclimated to drawing their guns on unarmed black people they can't recognize real danger. Once again, I feel compelled to point out that my husband is dead because he (and the other half-dozen officers on the scene) did NOT pull out their guns fast enough on the (black) man who subsequently shot him. Because they do not go around shooting black men just for fun or whatever the hell you think it is cops do. But I know that doesn't agree with your agenda, so I will be (1) ignored or (2) told again how racist I am and (3) if I'm lucky, you'll go back months or years to find more of my posts to Like, so I'll get the roundabout message once again that you think I'm racist. If law enforcement shoots a black man, they're racist. If they don't shoot a black man, they're racist. Not sure what you think you're getting out of this, but carry on.
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Post by Olan on Jul 25, 2017 11:16:50 GMT
You've made three assumptions that you've numbered and listed and included a little "doesn't fit your agenda" taunt yet I will be accused of shutting down dialogue and 15 people will "like" your comment. I can't though that's bullying hahahahaha! You don't know my agenda unless I've sat you down and told you and I haven't.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 25, 2017 11:40:58 GMT
You've made three assumptions that you've numbered and listed and included a little "doesn't fit your agenda" taunt yet I will be accused of shutting down dialogue and 15 people will "like" your comment. I can't though that's bullying hahahahaha! You don't know my agenda unless I've sat you down and told you and I haven't. You are utterly ridiculous anymore. I think it's a fair and reasonable conclusion that most peas know your agenda. Just like you do with going back to the "spreadsheet" looking up all those posts you "liked" to find for easy reference, other peas also can do the same with your history and the words you say--so again, it's not hard to come to a conclusion of what your agenda here is and has been.
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Post by Olan on Jul 25, 2017 12:10:53 GMT
You've made three assumptions that you've numbered and listed and included a little "doesn't fit your agenda" taunt yet I will be accused of shutting down dialogue and 15 people will "like" your comment. I can't though that's bullying hahahahaha! You don't know my agenda unless I've sat you down and told you and I haven't. You are utterly ridiculous anymore. I think it's a fair and reasonable conclusion that most peas know your agenda. Just like you do with going back to the "spreadsheet" looking up all those posts you "liked" to find for easy reference, other peas also can do the same with your history and the words you say--so again, it's not hard to come to a conclusion of what your agenda here is and has been. One of my regulars. Hey papercrafteradvocate *waves* always with a sprinkle of word wrestling, intentional obtuseness and lies. I am perfectly fine with peas & the public viewing the words Ive said and whatever agenda you've assigned (though I've articulated mine several times Olan) I would bet many of you are uncomfortable with your own 2peas behavior hence this witch hunt where people think I am "liking" their racists sentiments for a spreadsheet. I don't have the time or energy.
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Post by Tamhugh on Jul 25, 2017 15:17:02 GMT
I think that looking for a racist motive behind every little thing that happens does not help move the conversation in the right direction. What would move the conversation in the right direction? I don't know. But I do know that only using your (general you) preconceived notions to try to find a solution doesn't matter. I know that in some cities, police are trying to find a way to bond with the African American community and to try to alleviate some of the fear and distrust. I think that is a step in the right direction. I know that there are African American communities that condemn the gangs and violence in their neighborhoods and don't blame racism for it and I think that is a step in the right direction. My older DS lived in a neighborhood in Philly that was predominantly black and not thought of as a particularly safe area. When he moved in, an older gentleman from the community center across the street stopped by to invite him over. The bodega on the corner was where he did most of his shopping and he formed a relationship with the hispanic owner. Either of those men could have looked at him and assumed he was a racist and never reached out to him. He could have assumed the worst of them because of their skin color and just avoided them. Instead, he was able to live there, never feeling unsafe or threatened.
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Post by Olan on Jul 26, 2017 11:18:55 GMT
What would move the conversation in the right direction? I don't know. But I do know that only using your (general you) preconceived notions to try to find a solution doesn't matter. I know that in some cities, police are trying to find a way to bond with the African American community and to try to alleviate some of the fear and distrust. I think that is a step in the right direction. I know that there are African American communities that condemn the gangs and violence in their neighborhoods and don't blame racism for it and I think that is a step in the right direction. My older DS lived in a neighborhood in Philly that was predominantly black and not thought of as a particularly safe area. When he moved in, an older gentleman from the community center across the street stopped by to invite him over. The bodega on the corner was where he did most of his shopping and he formed a relationship with the hispanic owner. Either of those men could have looked at him and assumed he was a racist and never reached out to him. He could have assumed the worst of them because of their skin color and just avoided them. Instead, he was able to live there, never feeling unsafe or threatened. Youve touched on a lot. Systemic racism is the reason for violence in inner cities though I've never heard gang infested neighborhoods make that connection. Just like white towns wants you to believe lack of opportunity caused the uptick in heroin addiction *shrugs*. How would better community policing help with reducing hate crimes though?
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Post by Tamhugh on Jul 26, 2017 15:36:17 GMT
I don't know. But I do know that only using your (general you) preconceived notions to try to find a solution doesn't matter. I know that in some cities, police are trying to find a way to bond with the African American community and to try to alleviate some of the fear and distrust. I think that is a step in the right direction. I know that there are African American communities that condemn the gangs and violence in their neighborhoods and don't blame racism for it and I think that is a step in the right direction. My older DS lived in a neighborhood in Philly that was predominantly black and not thought of as a particularly safe area. When he moved in, an older gentleman from the community center across the street stopped by to invite him over. The bodega on the corner was where he did most of his shopping and he formed a relationship with the hispanic owner. Either of those men could have looked at him and assumed he was a racist and never reached out to him. He could have assumed the worst of them because of their skin color and just avoided them. Instead, he was able to live there, never feeling unsafe or threatened. Youve touched on a lot. Systemic racism is the reason for violence in inner cities though I've never heard gang infested neighborhoods make that connection. Just like white towns wants you to believe lack of opportunity caused the uptick in heroin addiction *shrugs*. How would better community policing help with reducing hate crimes though? I wish I had an answer. I hope you know that I am not looking to pick at you. It is something that bothers me as a white woman. My cousin's children are biracial and live in an inner city. I worry about them a lot. I truly believe that big change comes from small, grassroots efforts. I try to confront my own prejudices and change them when I recognize them. Luckily, I have had friends/family who are of other races and sexual orientation whom I have been able to have some difficult discussions with. They have helped me see a side of things that I would never have seen on my own. By better community policing, do you mean relations with the police? I think if they trust one another, the people in those communities would be more willing to report crimes and problems. The police would be less nervous and confrontational. Kids need to grow up knowing that the police are not their enemy. The police need to know that black youth aren't their enemy.
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Post by Olan on Jul 26, 2017 16:22:43 GMT
Youve touched on a lot. Systemic racism is the reason for violence in inner cities though I've never heard gang infested neighborhoods make that connection. Just like white towns wants you to believe lack of opportunity caused the uptick in heroin addiction *shrugs*. How would better community policing help with reducing hate crimes though? I wish I had an answer. I hope you know that I am not looking to pick at you. It is something that bothers me as a white woman. My cousin's children are biracial and live in an inner city. I worry about them a lot. I truly believe that big change comes from small, grassroots efforts. I try to confront my own prejudices and change them when I recognize them. Luckily, I have had friends/family who are of other races and sexual orientation whom I have been able to have some difficult discussions with. They have helped me see a side of things that I would never have seen on my own. By better community policing, do you mean relations with the police? I think if they trust one another, the people in those communities would be more willing to report crimes and problems. The police would be less nervous and confrontational. Kids need to grow up knowing that the police are not their enemy. The police need to know that black youth aren't their enemy. No I don't feel picked on but I appreciate the concern and the time you took to respond. However I think it's impossible to expect that black children see the police as protection/good guys when we have Rice, Brown, Edwards, Till as examples. White men are more likely to kill LEO than black teenage boys but the media bias which was the basis of this particular thread would have you believe otherwise. Also there are black people who don't live in violent inner cities. Lots of us. I still wouldn't call the police even if I was sandwiched between two pick up trucks in a dark alley. I have been. I don't think I wasted 20 seconds on the decision of calling the police or exiting my vehicle. That's America for black people nowadays. Have you heard anyone say police need to know white youth aren't the enemy? Why?
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Jun 27, 2014 18:02:10 GMT
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Post by georgiapea on Jul 26, 2017 17:52:06 GMT
Why were you in a dark alley? Why were there pick up trucks on either side of you? That sounds like deliberate dangerous behavior.
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Olan
Pearl Clutcher
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Jul 13, 2014 21:23:27 GMT
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Post by Olan on Jul 26, 2017 18:44:25 GMT
Why were you in a dark alley? Why were there pick up trucks on either side of you? That sounds like deliberate dangerous behavior. My paid parking space leads out to a one-way alley. I only play an angry bitter black woman online. In real life I travel and I'm fairly bad ass so neither a trigger happy policemen nor two pick up trucks were going to stand in the way of my vacation plans/early a.m flight. At first there was just one car blocking the alley but by the time I was nose to nose screaming at the occupant in the first vehicle another pick up pulled up behind us. Turns out no matter how loud I screamed no one understood English. We eventually come to the understanding that my home wasn't the worksite and that I just needed to get out of the alley No one dies or get deported.
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