flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 13, 2017 0:10:49 GMT
This is interesting. Do the ties look to be with the young man who was the victim, or the suspect? The suspect. Word is that the missing men witnessed another man attack an innocent guy. So do they think the suspect in the attack and the POI in this case are the same man? Or that the suspect in that case hired the POI to get rid of the witnesses?
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Post by mom on Jul 13, 2017 0:42:42 GMT
The suspect. Word is that the missing men witnessed another man attack an innocent guy. So do they think the suspect in the attack and the POI in this case are the same man? Or that the suspect in that case hired the POI to get rid of the witnesses? OK, let me see if I can type all this out to where it makes sense. A guy & a group of 3 other friends beat the crap out of a random stranger (article about it is here). Police arrest William Riddle for this crime. It was reported that there was a witness to this crime (Jimi, the first of the men to disappear). William is a known drug dealer/supplier. William sold drugs to Cosmo Dinardo - but Dinardo did not pay in full. Dinardo has known mental issues (schizophrenia) and supposedly William told Dinardo that he would consider his debt to be paid in full if he would 'take out' Jimi. Dinardo has the mentality of a mob boss. He is always trying to talk big, brag, etc about killing other people though I don't think he has. Well, when Jimi goes missing then the other 3 friends start looking for him. They knew Jimi had witnessed the attack on the stranger in May. People are speculating that when they confronted Dinardo that he then killed them because they knew too much. Now - I don't know that I believe all of this. I do think parts of it are true. Dinardo's family is very 'different'. They own many construction/cement businesses. They have an affinity for guns. Drugs. In the past, Dinardo's family has always been able to get their son out of trouble. Not sure that will happen this time. From my research, their family has a 'mob' mentality. They have found two of the missing men's cars. But no men. Dinardo's new bail is set at $5M cash. His parents are loaded but that is still a ton of money.
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 13, 2017 0:54:52 GMT
So do they think the suspect in the attack and the POI in this case are the same man? Or that the suspect in that case hired the POI to get rid of the witnesses? OK, let me see if I can type all this out to where it makes sense. A guy & a group of 3 other friends beat the crap out of a random stranger (article about it is here). Police arrest William Riddle for this crime. It was reported that there was a witness to this crime (Jimi, the first of the men to disappear). William is a known drug dealer/supplier. William sold drugs to Cosmo Dinardo - but Dinardo did not pay in full. Dinardo has known mental issues (schizophrenia) and supposedly William told Dinardo that he would consider his debt to be paid in full if he would 'take out' Jimi. Dinardo has the mentality of a mob boss. He is always trying to talk big, brag, etc about killing other people though I don't think he has. Well, when Jimi goes missing then the other 3 friends start looking for him. They knew Jimi had witnessed the attack on the stranger in May. People are speculating that when they confronted Dinardo that he then killed them because they knew too much. Now - I don't know that I believe all of this. I do think parts of it are true. Dinardo's family is very 'different'. They own many construction/cement businesses. They have an affinity for guns. Drugs. In the past, Dinardo's family has always been able to get their son out of trouble. Not sure that will happen this time. From my research, their family has a 'mob' mentality. They have found two of the missing men's cars. But no men. Dinardo's new bail is set at $5M cash. His parents are loaded but that is still a ton of money. That does make a lot of sense. I mean, not that killing them makes sense - but the pieces coming together. Definitely seems plausible.
I'm completely overwhelmed by websleuths. I've tried reading there in the past but it's so hard to find/follow.
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Post by mom on Jul 13, 2017 1:02:59 GMT
flute4peace I love WS. It can be overwhelming - so I just stay in the missing person section. Then, at any given time I only read 1-2 missing people cases. Right now, there is a young man from my area that has been missing since Thanksgiving, so I am currently participating in 3 cases. I don't read over there every day but then a case like the missing 4 men comes along and I cant pull myself away.
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Post by mom on Jul 13, 2017 2:39:30 GMT
Ugh. The DA just made an announcement that there will be a press conference at midnight, with a big development.
This cant be good.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 13, 2017 3:29:24 GMT
Midnight is great, not likely to be on here...
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Post by refugeepea on Jul 13, 2017 3:36:01 GMT
Eastern time, right?
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Post by refugeepea on Jul 13, 2017 3:37:04 GMT
flute4peace I love WS. It can be overwhelming - so I just stay in the missing person section. Then, at any given time I only read 1-2 missing people cases. Right now, there is a young man from my area that has been missing since Thanksgiving, so I am currently participating in 3 cases. I don't read over there every day but then a case like the missing 4 men comes along and I cant pull myself away. I tried joining and I was denied. I thought all you needed was an e-mail address. I haven't tried again.
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Post by mom on Jul 13, 2017 3:40:32 GMT
flute4peace I love WS. It can be overwhelming - so I just stay in the missing person section. Then, at any given time I only read 1-2 missing people cases. Right now, there is a young man from my area that has been missing since Thanksgiving, so I am currently participating in 3 cases. I don't read over there every day but then a case like the missing 4 men comes along and I cant pull myself away. I tried joining and I was denied. I thought all you needed was an e-mail address. I haven't tried again. I think that is all you need? You should try again.
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Post by mom on Jul 13, 2017 3:41:24 GMT
Yes Eastern time. But the DA has been starting a few minuets early on all the other updates. So I am going to start watching in a few, just in case.
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Post by frenchie on Jul 13, 2017 4:06:36 GMT
Sad. Remains of one of the young men found. 12 feet underground. Sickening
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Post by stampinchick on Jul 13, 2017 4:06:53 GMT
Human remains found inside a 12.5 foot grave. I think just one body has been identified. They were very careful in digging to not disturb evidence.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 13, 2017 4:18:32 GMT
Twelve feet!! Wow. Glad they are being persistent.
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Post by destined2bmom on Jul 13, 2017 4:19:12 GMT
Yes, they identified one, but there are more in there, according to the DA. How absolutely heartbreaking for the families and friends. He also referred to finding the other men as a recovery effort.
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 13, 2017 4:22:23 GMT
I wonder if they had some sort of tip to make them dig that deep? I can't see one person pulling off that big of a dig without help or at least someone else asking what's going on. What an incredibly sad story.
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Post by stampinchick on Jul 13, 2017 4:30:19 GMT
I wonder if they had some sort of tip to make them dig that deep? I can't see one person pulling off that big of a dig without help or at least someone else asking what's going on. What an incredibly sad story. At the news conference it was said that cadaver dogs were able to find the spot - I think he let it slip at the end that all 4 are in the grave because he said he doesn't understand the science but the dogs were able to pick up the scent of the 4 boys even 12 ft underground. Save
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Post by Kerri W on Jul 13, 2017 4:44:44 GMT
I wonder if they had some sort of tip to make them dig that deep? I can't see one person pulling off that big of a dig without help or at least someone else asking what's going on. What an incredibly sad story. At the news conference it was said that cadaver dogs were able to find the spot - I think he let it slip at the end that all 4 are in the grave because he said he doesn't understand the science but the dogs were able to pick up the scent of the 4 boys even 12 ft underground. SaveI heard "poor boys". We also have to remember his family is in the construction business. He was not hand digging that 12.5 feet. He likely had heavy equipment at his disposal.
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Post by mom on Jul 13, 2017 5:09:14 GMT
At the news conference it was said that cadaver dogs were able to find the spot - I think he let it slip at the end that all 4 are in the grave because he said he doesn't understand the science but the dogs were able to pick up the scent of the 4 boys even 12 ft underground. SaveI heard "poor boys". We also have to remember his family is in the construction business. He was not hand digging that 12.5 feet. He likely had heavy equipment at his disposal. I heard poor boys as well - but I do think they will all be found there. I think he could have pulled it off himself - but I tend to think he had help from dear old dad.
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Post by Zee on Jul 13, 2017 10:41:18 GMT
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Post by trixiecat on Jul 13, 2017 12:11:17 GMT
This is happening 15 minutes from where I live. I know the first assistant district attorney and the head district attoryney lives in my neighborhood. They have found one of the men's body's in a common grave with other body parts. This whole thing has made me sick from the beginning.
What is going to be very interesting is how all of these men knew each other, considering they don't live close (two I know where friends). And how they new the man who is in jail. And nothing much about his parents who own all of the properties has been revealed. The area where this is taking place is very affluent. Their last name is DiNardo and Z*G, I am wondering if they own the famous seafood restaurant in Philly. I couple of days ago I heard through social media that people were wondering if this was mafia related. That could be all talk.
I can't even imagine what all of these families are going through...especially now that they have found one of the bodies.
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Post by trixiecat on Jul 13, 2017 12:19:48 GMT
Mom, I just read the explanation from the web. That is amazing. It would totally make sense. It is interesting that nothing like this has come out in the papers. I guess they pretty much beg the media to stay quite with any speculations like this.
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Post by gloryjoy on Jul 13, 2017 13:08:06 GMT
Tragic news, so sad for their families.
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Post by destined2bmom on Jul 13, 2017 13:25:37 GMT
I hope they can bring closure soon. I was so tired last night but stayed up to watch the news conference. I thought the DA also let it slip about the other three men. Now I also think that the POI must have had help. Mom, that is an interesting theory.
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 13, 2017 17:15:26 GMT
I wonder if they had some sort of tip to make them dig that deep? I can't see one person pulling off that big of a dig without help or at least someone else asking what's going on. What an incredibly sad story. At the news conference it was said that cadaver dogs were able to find the spot - I think he let it slip at the end that all 4 are in the grave because he said he doesn't understand the science but the dogs were able to pick up the scent of the 4 boys even 12 ft underground. SaveThis is remarkable.
So sad for the families. I mean I know this was the expected outcome, but no matter how "expected" you're still not ready for the news when it does come.
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Post by Zee on Jul 13, 2017 21:36:01 GMT
This is happening 15 minutes from where I live. I know the first assistant district attorney and the head district attoryney lives in my neighborhood. They have found one of the men's body's in a common grave with other body parts. This whole thing has made me sick from the beginning. What is going to be very interesting is how all of these men knew each other, considering they don't live close (two I know where friends). And how they new the man who is in jail. And nothing much about his parents who own all of the properties has been revealed. The area where this is taking place is very affluent. Their last name is DiNardo and Z*G, I am wondering if they own the famous seafood restaurant in Philly. I couple of days ago I heard through social media that people were wondering if this was mafia related. That could be all talk. I can't even imagine what all of these families are going through...especially now that they have found one of the bodies. I don't think they have anything to do with the restaurant, because their other businesses and real estate holdings were mentioned but not that restaurant.
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Post by mom on Jul 13, 2017 21:38:49 GMT
update: Cosmo Dinardo confessed to killing all 4 boys, in exchange he will not get the death penalty. His lawyer says that Cosmo 'participated' in the killing.
With wording like that, I wonder who else is involved?
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Post by Zee on Jul 13, 2017 21:39:03 GMT
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 13, 2017 21:44:25 GMT
Good. Glad the families didn't have to suffer through a long drawn out trial for this pos. The rest could take a while.
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 13, 2017 21:49:36 GMT
update: Cosmo Dinardo confessed to killing all 4 boys, in exchange he will not get the death penalty. His lawyer says that Cosmo 'participated' in the killing. With wording like that, I wonder who else is involved? This makes your theory even more plausible.
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Post by Zee on Jul 13, 2017 21:50:05 GMT
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