twinsmomfla99
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Jul 22, 2017 12:45:16 GMT
It seems likely that John McCain will be resigning at some point, and Arizona will have to appoint an interim replacement until 2018. I am assuming that replacement will be a Republican as that party controls the replacement process.
But what if McCain decided to throw a monkey wrench into DC politics? What if he stayed on and just changed parties? If he could get two Rs from "purple" states to switch to D, and one I to declare as a D, they would take control. That would take the legislative agenda out of the hands of Mitch McConnell. It would slow things down until the investigations can be concluded and would help stymie the obstruction of justice tsunami about to hit the capitol.
With everything coming out about the Trump administration, this could be seen as a patriotic act by anyone willing to risk it. And those who would be willing to try it would probably only lose the rabid Trump supporters, who probably aren't going to vote for these more moderate Republicans, anyway. It would be the ultimate "country over party" act.
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katybee
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Post by katybee on Jul 22, 2017 12:50:07 GMT
Why would John McCain switch parties? Although he does not always agree with Donald Trump, he is a devoted Republican and believes very strongly in Republican ideals. We might as well wish that Mitch McConnell would switch parties…
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twinsmomfla99
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Jul 22, 2017 13:24:18 GMT
Why? Because he doesn't like Trump, and I am pretty certain he will not support Trump with all the new allegations and evidence coming out about the election. And because I do think he is a patriot who might be willing to cross party lines to prevent this train wreck from continuing. He has nothing to lose as far as re-election is concerned, and he might just be interested in doing the right thing. Facing your own mortality can have a pretty strong impact on someone.
As for Mitch "Vader" McConnell, he is a lost cause, having turned to the dark side a long time ago.
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pyccku
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Post by pyccku on Jul 22, 2017 13:28:36 GMT
The law in AZ says that the replacement MUST be the same party as the outgoing senator. Not sure if it has to be the same party that he ran on, or the party he belonged to at the time of resignation. I don't see him changing though. I do see him spending his remaining time in the Senate being a thorn in Trump's side - he really doesn't like the Russia thing. He didn't have much to lose since this is his last term anyway, but maybe this will push him into being more forceful than just stating that he's 'deeply concerned' before voting to confirm Trump's new pick for whatever.
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Post by heather on Jul 22, 2017 13:48:47 GMT
McCain's words don't match his actions.
Nothing is going to change.
Neener Neener. Liberal tears. Snowflakes. Party over country
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 22, 2017 14:29:45 GMT
I'm not sure that McCain's health would permit him to be much involved in politics in the foreseeable future.
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Post by mrssmith on Jul 22, 2017 14:43:45 GMT
He talks a good game but still sticks with the R's. I do believe he's a patriot butnot willing to go against his party.
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katybee
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Post by katybee on Jul 22, 2017 16:15:10 GMT
I'm not sure that McCain's health would permit him to be much involved in politics in the foreseeable future. I agree. Although I'm glad he's staying positive, and hope he gets a miracle and stays healthy for as long as possible, he has a very aggressive form of brain cancer. My brother had radiation on his brain last summer and it wiped him out. And he wasn't having chemo at the time... |
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 22, 2017 16:39:56 GMT
Slow it down? No way! I want it to head full speed into a turn and derail all the cars. I don't want any blame for the Republican's inability to get their legislative goals through put at the feet of the Democrats.
If anything, I'd like McCain to hold onto his seat and stay away from Washington.
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pyccku
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Post by pyccku on Jul 22, 2017 19:08:31 GMT
Kelli Ward - the one who ran against him in the primary - has already been lobbying for him to step down so she can take his spot. She's a real peach.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 22, 2017 20:13:13 GMT
Kelli Ward - the one who ran against him in the primary - has already been lobbying for him to step down so she can take his spot. She's a real peach. I think you spelled that wrong |
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Post by azredhead on Jul 22, 2017 20:16:53 GMT
Kelli Ward - the one who ran against him in the primary - has already been lobbying for him to step down so she can take his spot. She's a real peach. Yea she's tickin me off.. who is she ..? I liked her at firt but she's been a bulldog against McCain. I've said before I've had some picks with him too but have some decency.. |
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Post by elaine on Jul 22, 2017 20:28:58 GMT
Kelli Ward - the one who ran against him in the primary - has already been lobbying for him to step down so she can take his spot. She's a real peach. I think you spelled that wrong  |
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Post by trollie on Jul 22, 2017 20:34:44 GMT
If McCain changes parties, I'll eat my shoe. He is the "Maverick" but no way would he be a Democrat. I don't always agree with him, but have a lot of respect for him and have voted for him in the past.
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Post by melissa on Jul 22, 2017 20:35:31 GMT
I expect his resignation to come very quickly, as soon as he is sufficiently recovered from the most recent surgery enough to do so. Typical survival without treatment is months- like 3 or 4 months. Not sure if the average survival with treatment is longer than 13-15 months currently or not. That's about what it was when my friend had it. OTOH, another friend's mom is a long time survivor. However, the way this was picked up makes me suspicious that Mr McCain, with his age and his concurrent and previous medical problems, will not be a long term survivor. There are people in his age range who decide to simply live out there days instead of pursuing aggressive treatment. There are some long term survivors, but they are so far and few between and most were not diagnosed at this age.  |
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Post by trollie on Jul 22, 2017 20:39:23 GMT
And I think the Republican party did him dirty by having him select Sarah Palin as his running mate. I think he would have had a great chance being elected President when he was running against Obama if he had a different running mate. (That's not a knock against Obama. I liked him as President just fine.)
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Post by lisae on Jul 22, 2017 21:07:07 GMT
I can't imagine McCain switching parties. Right now I think using his illness as a way to 'derail' the mess in Washington is just in poor taste. I don't like Trump either but this is not the method for change to try to use a man's illness as a way to encourage him to try to make right what the American voters got wrong 8 months ago. McCain has enough to worry about taking care of his own health and representing his own state in the best way he can.
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