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Post by hop2 on Jul 24, 2017 21:52:07 GMT
I thought he was but some dork on the radio station my kids listen to said Giuliani will be the new AG? ( I have no idea what station they had on some NY area pop station. )
I'm like wth don't we still have one?
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Post by peano on Jul 24, 2017 22:10:50 GMT
They'll have to pry that job out of his cold dead hands. Any other AG would have resigned after Trump publicly dissed him.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 24, 2017 22:13:39 GMT
I thought I heard this morning that Trump was floating the idea of Giuliani as AG, but I thought it was just an idea. (but then again, that was this morning-- such a long time ago in Trump-time!)
As much as I dislike Jeff Sessions, I do NOT think he should resign-- just because Trump wants him to.
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Post by darkchami on Jul 24, 2017 22:20:51 GMT
I saw in a tweet from Steve Kopack that Axios is reporting that Trump is considering it. (Boy that was a convoluted sentence.) I don't think there is any actual announcement.
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Post by Jili on Jul 24, 2017 22:23:52 GMT
I've seen some news articles about this, but in the last couple of hours there's a report that Giuliani said that he agrees that Sessions did the right thing by recusing himself.
Guess that ends that. But nothing would surprise me at this point.
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Post by papersilly on Jul 24, 2017 22:24:44 GMT
i don't think sessions should resign either. dig your heels in, jeff! don't get muscled out and then thrown under a bus like he did to comey. chain yourself to a desk if you have to. LOL
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Post by lucyg on Jul 24, 2017 22:25:01 GMT
It doesn't really matter. Anyone he appoints is going to be a complete asshole. At least Rudy has shown signs in the past of being more of a moderate, but who knows now.
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Post by moodyblue on Jul 24, 2017 22:27:15 GMT
I don't like Jeff Sessions or most of what he's done so far, but the one right thing he did was to recuse himself. For that reason alone, I am hoping he stands firm and doesn't resign.
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Post by pyccku on Jul 24, 2017 22:31:21 GMT
He's kind of screwed. He gave up his senate seat for this gig. And he also perjured himself, so there's the possibility - however low it may be - that he could be disbarred for that. At least if he gets fired instead of resigning, he could file for unemployment!
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Post by ntsf on Jul 24, 2017 22:33:17 GMT
he is getting his old fashioned cruel agenda in place.. so why would he give up no matter what trump does??
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Post by moodyblue on Jul 24, 2017 22:40:01 GMT
he is getting his old fashioned cruel agenda in place.. so why would he give up no matter what trump does?? Yeah, I don't necessarily want him to STAY in the job for long, but I don't want him to resign NOW - because that's obviously what Trump wants.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 24, 2017 22:47:41 GMT
I thought I heard this morning that Trump was floating the idea of Giuliani as AG, but I thought it was just an idea. (but then again, that was this morning-- such a long time ago in Trump-time!) As much as I dislike Jeff Sessions, I do NOT think he should resign-- just because Trump wants him to. I don't think he should either. And there was a time when I would have thought Guliani was an improvement. But if you listen to him lately it's weird. I just can't keep up with this.
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Post by Peal on Jul 24, 2017 23:10:40 GMT
I read an article today that speculated Tillerson would resign by the end of the year. Apparently he's fed up with Trump as well. But who knows, it was a "sources state..." type of speculation.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 24, 2017 23:10:56 GMT
I just can't keep up with this. I agree!! that's why I called it *Trump-time* lol. Things move very quickly in Trump-time... it certainly proves Einstein's theory that time is relative!
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Post by pyccku on Jul 24, 2017 23:33:02 GMT
I read an article today that speculated Tillerson would resign by the end of the year. Apparently he's fed up with Trump as well. But who knows, it was a "sources state..." type of speculation. Or...he really, really wanted those sanctions lifted so Exxon could make a buttload of money. And now that it looks like congress is going to keep the sanctions from being lifted, why bother staying in a thankless job that he didn't even want in the first place? Save
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 24, 2017 23:35:09 GMT
I read an article today that speculated Tillerson would resign by the end of the year. Apparently he's fed up with Trump as well. But who knows, it was a "sources state..." type of speculation. Or...he really, really wanted those sanctions lifted so Exxon could make a buttload of money. And now that it looks like congress is going to keep the sanctions from being lifted, why bother staying in a thankless job that he didn't even want in the first place? SaveHmmm....interesting thought here.
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Post by lisae on Jul 24, 2017 23:38:12 GMT
I agree with everyone else. Sessions is definitely not my first pick for AG but he shouldn't let the bully-in-chief win. The way things are going Trump might put someone from his own family in the position. I mean all they really need to meet Donald's criteria is a law degree, a few buddies in Russia and a pledge of loyalty.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 24, 2017 23:39:40 GMT
Axios is reporting that Trump is mulling over asking Giuliani, but it is unclear that he could get confirmed. The same report says to get ready to see more of Newt Gingrich.  ETA-sorry, I should have read the thread first!
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Post by moodyblue on Jul 24, 2017 23:41:45 GMT
Axios is reporting that Trump is mulling over asking Giuliani, but it is unclear that he could get confirmed. The same report says to get ready to see more of Newt Gingrich.  You mean Newt isn't going to go to Rome with his wife?
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 24, 2017 23:45:55 GMT
Axios is reporting that Trump is mulling over asking Giuliani, but it is unclear that he could get confirmed. The same report says to get ready to see more of Newt Gingrich.  You mean Newt isn't going to go to Rome with his wife? Dunno, but we will be hearing from him more often. Here is the piece, by Mike Allen: "Mike Allen 9 hrs ago Exclusive: Trump ponders Rudy Giuliani for attorney general Lazaro Gamio / Axios President Trump is so unhappy with Attorney General Jeff Sessions that he has raised the possibility of bringing back Rudolph Giuliani to head the Justice Department, according to West Wing confidants. In internal conversations, Trump has recently pondered the idea of nominating Giuliani, a stalwart of his campaign. Even before last week's blast at Sessions in a New York Times interview, Trump had expressed fury at Sessions — also one of the first prominent Republicans to back the Trump campaign — for recusing himself from the Russia investigation. And in a Monday morning tweet, Trump referred to "our beleaguered A.G." not investigating Hillary Clinton. Our thought bubble: Trump often muses about possible personnel moves that he never makes, sometimes just to gauge the listener's reaction. So the Giuliani balloon may go nowhere. As Axios reported Saturday, Newt Gingrich — who also went all-in with the Trump campaign — may take a more visible, frequent role as a defender as Trump girds for battle with special counsel Bob Mueller. Giuliani would have a tough time getting 50 Republicans senators to vote to confirm him. He was such an early and ardent Trump backer that he wouldn't be seen as an independent guardian of the department in these tumultuous times. In fact, the nomination could be seen as Trump throwing gasoline on a fire. And Giuliani's stop-and-frisk police policy as New York mayor, and clients since then, also would be controversial with many senators. Nevertheless, the leaks about Giuliani and Gingrich are revealing in four ways: Trump wants to surround himself with enablers and junkyard dogs, as we saw with the selection of the pugilistic Anthony Scaramucci as White House communications director. Presidents like the personnel equivalent of comfort food — people with whom they have a long, happy history. Presidents often find they can only really trust people they knew before they took office, since it's hard to trust new people at the pinnacle of power. Rudy and Newt were both overlooked in the first round of administration picks. By reviving some of his original band members, he's able to blame other people for his problems. And the West Wing conversations show that Trump originals can always come back. Paging Chris Christie! Show less POLITICS FOLLOW AXIOS"
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 24, 2017 23:56:06 GMT
Honestly, I think if Sessions goes we may lose the investigation.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 24, 2017 23:59:45 GMT
mollycoddle I doubt Trump would ever bring Christie back. Kushner would never agree to it. And Christie supposedly made a huge faux pas on election night. I'm not sure I believe that or not but Kushner is for sure VERY anti Christie
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Post by Sarah*H on Jul 25, 2017 0:08:37 GMT
Anyone who thinks that this Republican Senate will act as a bulwark for democracy against the wishes of Trump is delusional. If Trump wants Giuliani, he'll get Giuliani. And even though the initial reticence was supposedly because Giuliani couldn't get security clearance, Jared Kushner's continued clearance makes it clear that's not an issue anymore. Today a Republican Congressman called out female Republican Senators because they are thwarting the President's wishes and suggested he would like to settle the dispute at gunpoint Aaron Burr style. This says everything you need to know about the morality and patriotism of those we are counting on to safeguard the institutions of our government.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 25, 2017 0:19:38 GMT
I hate session. I want to smack that smirk off his face. But I want him to stay on.
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Post by Sarah*H on Jul 25, 2017 0:20:29 GMT
So I guess this is already old news. Now it will be Ted Cruz. I can't believe the maniac in the oval office has me rooting for someone as evil as Jeff Sessions to keep his job.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 25, 2017 0:21:31 GMT
So I guess this is already old news. Now it will be Ted Cruz. I can't believe the maniac in the oval office has me rooting for someone as evil as Jeff Sessions to keep his job. Strange times indeed.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 25, 2017 0:41:05 GMT
mollycoddle I doubt Trump would ever bring Christie back. Kushner would never agree to it. And Christie supposedly made a huge faux pas on election night. I'm not sure I believe that or not but Kushner is for sure VERY anti Christie I agree about Christie. I think that they were maybe being smart-asses. Still, Trump might get desperate. Who knows with him?
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Post by hop2 on Jul 25, 2017 0:52:22 GMT
mollycoddle I doubt Trump would ever bring Christie back. Kushner would never agree to it. And Christie supposedly made a huge faux pas on election night. I'm not sure I believe that or not but Kushner is for sure VERY anti Christie I agree about Christie. I think that they were maybe being smart-asses. Still, Trump might get desperate. Who knows with him? True Could you imagine if Christie were selected and somehow was a catalyst for legal issues for Jared? ( not sure how bad the issue could be since daddy in law would just pardon him ) As much as I hate Christie, I have to admit that would be very entertaining
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 25, 2017 0:56:48 GMT
I agree about Christie. I think that they were maybe being smart-asses. Still, Trump might get desperate. Who knows with him? True Could you imagine if Christie were selected and somehow was a catalyst for legal issues for Jared? ( not sure how bad the issue could be since daddy in law would just pardon him ) As much as I hate Christie, I have to admit that would be very entertaining And we could all use a laugh right about now, amirite? Today he was trying to rally a bunch of Boy Scouts! Is there ever a moment when he is NOT an ass?
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Post by Jili on Jul 25, 2017 1:10:31 GMT
So I guess this is already old news. Now it will be Ted Cruz. I can't believe the maniac in the oval office has me rooting for someone as evil as Jeff Sessions to keep his job. I feel ill. Truly. He can do whatever he wants.
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