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Post by alibama on Aug 27, 2014 12:48:31 GMT
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Post by PEArfect on Aug 27, 2014 12:58:19 GMT
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Post by alibama on Aug 27, 2014 13:01:08 GMT
Just heartbreaking
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scrappinmama
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Post by scrappinmama on Aug 27, 2014 13:02:37 GMT
Those poor babies. I really don't understand how someone can do something like that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 13:08:47 GMT
Utah has safe haven laws. She could have dropped the baby off at a hospital or fire station with no questions asked. Why not do that instead of dumping that innocent baby in the trash?
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Post by redayh on Aug 27, 2014 13:15:18 GMT
I will NEVER understand this. Never.
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Post by craftsbycarolyn on Aug 27, 2014 14:42:32 GMT
Never understand this!
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gloryjoy
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Post by gloryjoy on Aug 27, 2014 14:46:13 GMT
Utah has safe haven laws. She could have dropped the baby off at a hospital or fire station with no questions asked. Why not do that instead of dumping that innocent baby in the trash? Because they are not thinking straight.
Doesn't make it right. The whole things makes me so sad and I too will never understand how a woman can do this.
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Post by Gravity on Aug 27, 2014 14:48:34 GMT
I cannot believe the woman in this story is only being charged with neglect of a dependent! IMO dumping your newborn baby in a dumpster is a little more than neglect.
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Post by shanni on Aug 27, 2014 14:51:50 GMT
I have been following this story since it broke yesterday. They are reporting that the woman threw the baby away because she was worried her parents would be mad at her; yet she's in her mid 20's and lives alone. I wonder if there is some mental disability or illness going on. A grown woman who lives alone could have easily taken that child to a safe place and handed her over. So, so sad. The baby is in extremely critical condition. There is a new push here in Utah of PSA's trying to educate women about the safe haven laws. I pray that this sweet baby survives, and that this case will help educate other mothers who feel like there is no way out.
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eastcoastpea
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Jun 27, 2014 13:05:28 GMT
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Post by eastcoastpea on Aug 27, 2014 14:51:46 GMT
It makes me cry that some new moms think this is their only option.
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Post by Goldynn on Aug 27, 2014 14:54:42 GMT
It disturbs me that the woman is 23 YEARS OLD! It's not like she's a clueless teenager (even most teens are more mature than this, I must say). At 23 she should've been able to come up with some solutions. It's shocking and sad.
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Post by Goldynn on Aug 27, 2014 14:57:11 GMT
I have been following this story since it broke yesterday. They are reporting that the woman threw the baby away because she was worried her parents would be mad at her; yet she's in her mid 20's and lives alone. I wonder if there is some mental disability or illness going on. A grown woman who lives alone could have easily taken that child to a safe place and handed her over. So, so sad. The baby is in extremely critical condition. Just saw your post Shanni, after I typed mine. I was thinking the same thing.
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Post by cynipidae17 on Aug 27, 2014 15:04:53 GMT
I just don't understand. I had a baby in the NICU I would do anything to avoid that happening, that poor baby.
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Post by alibama on Aug 27, 2014 15:12:08 GMT
Not sure how I missed the 23 year old thing. I thought it was a teen but either way it is just sad
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Post by Outspoken on Aug 27, 2014 15:16:22 GMT
Add me to the list of never understanding this!
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Post by *christine* on Aug 27, 2014 15:20:51 GMT
I don't get it either. Seriously, aside from the safe haven laws, you could probably pass that baby off to 99% of people in the world and say, help us, please, and anyone would. Maybe you think you can't go to your own parents, but seriously, anyone else would help you.
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KateMarie
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Post by KateMarie on Aug 27, 2014 15:53:19 GMT
So sad! I'm another one who will never understand this happening.
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anniebygaslight
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Post by anniebygaslight on Aug 27, 2014 16:44:18 GMT
Terribly sad. There have to be mental health issues at play here.
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Aug 27, 2014 16:48:41 GMT
I can't understand how someone could do such a thing. Even animals care for orphan animals and exhibit more compassion.
The safe haven laws were an option and there is someone yearning for a child. So selfish.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 16:52:15 GMT
That is really heartbreaking. I think that anyone who does something like that must not be in their right mind.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 16:56:56 GMT
I can't understand how someone could do such a thing. Even animals care for orphan animals and exhibit more compassion. The safe haven laws were an option and there is someone yearning for a child. So selfish. Before calling her selfish, maybe you should consider that she has a history of mental issues and abuse. Those people are not selfish; they just do not have the same ability to think rationally as you or I would. It is sad and horrifying to think that people as a species could do something like this. We like to think of ourselves as highly evolved and beyond this kind of behavior. Unfortunately, we are not. I hope the baby makes it and the mother gets the help she needs and punishment she deserves.
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Post by jumperhop on Aug 27, 2014 17:18:41 GMT
Thank goodness the neighbors when to check out the noise. I don't know if I would have been able too. Thinking a mink or a racoon would jump out at me. Jen
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Post by gale w on Aug 27, 2014 17:28:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 17:34:06 GMT
That's terrible. I hope there's a special place in hell for people who harm children.
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River
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Post by River on Aug 27, 2014 17:35:58 GMT
I have been following this story since it broke yesterday. They are reporting that the woman threw the baby away because she was worried her parents would be mad at her; yet she's in her mid 20's and lives alone. I wonder if there is some mental disability or illness going on. A grown woman who lives alone could have easily taken that child to a safe place and handed her over. So, so sad. The baby is in extremely critical condition. There is a new push here in Utah of PSA's trying to educate women about the safe haven laws. I pray that this sweet baby survives, and that this case will help educate other mothers who feel like there is no way out. Can someone educate me a bit about the safe haven laws? Do those babies being dropped off go straight into the system? How do they get adopted if the legal parents are known to sign their rights away? No two ways about it...going into the system is still MUCH better than dead. But I wonder if that's what these young moms fear? That the baby would be better off dead than "in the system" as they likely were? To clarify: I don't mean to make it out like "in the system" is a horrible thing. I hear good and bad stories from it.
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Post by papersilly on Aug 27, 2014 17:58:04 GMT
what about "no questions asked" do people not understand about the safe haven system? I know I know....mental instability may prevent some from going to a safe haven in the first place but it's their one chance to drop off the baby somewhere safe and walk away...no...questions...asked.
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Aug 27, 2014 17:59:56 GMT
I can't understand how someone could do such a thing. Even animals care for orphan animals and exhibit more compassion. The safe haven laws were an option and there is someone yearning for a child. So selfish. Before calling her selfish, maybe you should consider that she has a history of mental issues and abuse. Those people are not selfish; they just do not have the same ability to think rationally as you or I would. It is sad and horrifying to think that people as a species could do something like this. We like to think of ourselves as highly evolved and beyond this kind of behavior. Unfortunately, we are not. I hope the baby makes it and the mother gets the help she needs and punishment she deserves. Hey, thanks for the handslap. Apparently you have more insight into the mothers mental health issues. But even those with limited intellectual capacity know the difference between right and wrong. As you said, the mother should get the "punishment she deserves".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 18:00:23 GMT
I can't understand how someone could do such a thing. Even animals care for orphan animals and exhibit more compassion. The safe haven laws were an option and there is someone yearning for a child. So selfish. Before calling her selfish, maybe you should consider that she has a history of mental issues and abuse. Those people are not selfish; they just do not have the same ability to think rationally as you or I would. It is sad and horrifying to think that people as a species could do something like this. We like to think of ourselves as highly evolved and beyond this kind of behavior. Unfortunately, we are not. I hope the baby makes it and the mother gets the help she needs and punishment she deserves. I agree. This woman has to have mental health issues at play. So sad.
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Post by PEArfect on Aug 27, 2014 18:03:30 GMT
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