casii
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Post by casii on Aug 22, 2017 23:19:28 GMT
Boy, all this war talk and Bannon ousting really took the heat off of the Russia connections didn't it? He sure knows how to detract and distract! Trump is his own 3 ring circus. It's hard to know which ring we should be focusing upon on any given day.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Aug 22, 2017 23:21:38 GMT
Trump is his own 3 ring circus. It's hard to know which ring we should be focusing upon on any given day. clowns scare me. that is all. At least this clown does... lol!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 2:26:45 GMT
Fox News...
".@potus: "Our movement is a movement built on love." fxn.ws/2w1jDND"
What a liar....
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 23, 2017 2:45:32 GMT
Boy, all this war talk and Bannon ousting really took the heat off of the Russia connections didn't it? He sure knows how to detract and distract! I'm hoping that Mueller swoops in with some news really soon!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 2:45:41 GMT
Benjamin Wittes....
"I like not listening to what Trump says and just reading it in the Twitter reaction. Why? Because I hate his voice. And I love all of yours."
Me too!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 2:51:35 GMT
Evan McMullin...,,
"The President again uses language of the white supremacists he claims to forsake: "They are trying to take away our history & our heritage."
His heritage? Just exactly what is his heritage that is being taken away?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 2:55:09 GMT
Philip Rucker...
"Trump tells crowd saying pardon Arpaio, "I won’t do it tonight b/c I don’t want to cause any controversy....But Sheriff Joe can feel good"
🚫 # MAGA
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rodeomom
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Refupee # 380 "I don't have to run fast, I just have to run faster than you."
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Post by rodeomom on Aug 23, 2017 3:03:19 GMT
The man is a fucking lunatic! What is going to happen to our country? ? what is happening to our country
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 3:03:55 GMT
Manu Raju.
"Wow, Trump just threatened a SHUTDOWN next month. "If we have to close down that government," we are going to build that wall"
It looks like next month could even be worse than the last several months.
🚫 #MAGA
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 23, 2017 3:19:53 GMT
Fox News... ".@potus: "Our movement is a movement built on love." fxn.ws/2w1jDND" What a liar.... I just threw up in my mouth a little bit... 🤢🤢
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 3:32:01 GMT
From AP...
"VIDEO: Trump blames media for widespread condemnation of his response to deadly rally in Charlottesville."
I listen to the video and yet again he lied. What he seems to ignore, along with his supporters, is the media doesn't have to make things up. All they have to do his show him talking or read his tweets.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 3:34:40 GMT
NPR....,
"Trump claims "weak, weak people" want to get rid of monuments to George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Teddy Roosevelt."
Really? More lies...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 4:00:28 GMT
Kurt Eicheneald....
"Trump told america TV cameras were being shut off so country wouldn't hear what he had to say. I know this because I saw it on TV.
Insane."
Unbelievable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 4:37:14 GMT
SF Gate...
"At the six-month mark, President Donald J. Trump was averaging 4.6 claims a day, but he has now increased his pace."
That's 4.6 lies...
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imsirius
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Post by imsirius on Aug 23, 2017 13:10:47 GMT
As I was thinking of 45 having to have all these rallies it occurred to me. A rally is to 45 as a gazebo is to a Nazi. He goes where he can count on some support that he NEEDS for his fragile ego. A safe space/place. He needs them (supporters) more than the other way around for sure. EXACTLY! Haven't you noticed that when he is caught in a bold faced lie or some controversy, he plans a rally? He has to have his sociopathic, narcissistic, ego stroked. He cannot go a day, an hour, a MINUTE without adulation or it kills him. This was mentioned again and again during his campaign. The man can't bear to be looked at negatively or criticized. He cannot take anyone telling him he is wrong. He goes to the rallies to prove to his tiny walnut sized brain that he is important and he is RIGHT. It's a scary, scary reality.
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imsirius
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Post by imsirius on Aug 23, 2017 13:12:09 GMT
From AP... "VIDEO: Trump blames media for widespread condemnation of his response to deadly rally in Charlottesville." I listen to the video and yet again he lied. What he seems to ignore, along with his supporters, is the media doesn't have to make things up. All they have to do his show him talking or read his tweets. He claims the media edits him to look bad. He claims he didn't say these things because he, in his fucked up, cray cray head, believes it. If he is is going to shutdown media, then he has truly become his hero Hiltler.
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Post by Merge on Aug 23, 2017 13:26:01 GMT
That speech last night ... how anyone can still support him is a mystery to me. The man is a lunatic. WaPo reported that the crowd thinned significantly during his speech as people lost interest in his incoherent rambling.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 13:41:09 GMT
Boy, all this war talk and Bannon ousting really took the heat off of the Russia connections didn't it? He sure knows how to detract and distract! It's OK. Mueller is still on the case. So is Schneiderman.
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casii
Drama Llama
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Post by casii on Aug 23, 2017 13:49:36 GMT
That speech last night ... how anyone can still support him is a mystery to me. The man is a lunatic. WaPo reported that the crowd thinned significantly during his speech as people lost interest in his incoherent rambling. Somebody posted crowd shots on Twitter and it seems the crowd wasn't that substantial even before and at the beginning of the speech. One of my high school friends lives in Mesa now. On her feed last night there were people who posted screen shots of Craigslist ads and some other local type of ad seeking to pay attendees at the rally. If you showed up at 6 p.m., you got a ticket that you could turn in for cash at 9 p.m. And I don't agree with this tactic, but several people say they requested tickets using several different emails with the intent not to show at all. The crowd looked sparse enough that they could've let in anyone after a certain point, but don't take a spot that any crazy Trump supporter might want. What is insane to me is this: Are we all watching these things live at the same time? Some Trump supporters are insisting that CNN muted the sound of the crowd and also delayed it slightly so they could edit on the go. If it didn't make me delusional, I'd ask to have some of what they're smoking. And when we're watching this stuff live, Trump lies when he says the media edits it to make him look bad. He says what he says and it's insane from start to finish. No editing needed.
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imsirius
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Post by imsirius on Aug 23, 2017 14:56:41 GMT
He is like the drunken Uncle at your wedding who insists on giving a speech. Seriously
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 23, 2017 15:49:09 GMT
And yet it is reported that 2/3 of republicans approve of the way he responded to Charlottesville. That is the truly scary part.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 23, 2017 15:51:12 GMT
That speech last night ... how anyone can still support him is a mystery to me. The man is a lunatic. WaPo reported that the crowd thinned significantly during his speech as people lost interest in his incoherent rambling. Somebody posted crowd shots on Twitter and it seems the crowd wasn't that substantial even before and at the beginning of the speech. One of my high school friends lives in Mesa now. On her feed last night there were people who posted screen shots of Craigslist ads and some other local type of ad seeking to pay attendees at the rally. If you showed up at 6 p.m., you got a ticket that you could turn in for cash at 9 p.m. And I don't agree with this tactic, but several people say they requested tickets using several different emails with the intent not to show at all. The crowd looked sparse enough that they could've let in anyone after a certain point, but don't take a spot that any crazy Trump supporter might want. What is insane to me is this: Are we all watching these things live at the same time? Some Trump supporters are insisting that CNN muted the sound of the crowd and also delayed it slightly so they could edit on the go. If it didn't make me delusional, I'd ask to have some of what they're smoking. And when we're watching this stuff live, Trump lies when he says the media edits it to make him look bad. He says what he says and it's insane from start to finish. No editing needed. I switched from CNN to MSNBC with hopes that MSNBC wouldn't be covering it since I can't stand to watch or listen to him. It seemed exactly the same live feed to me.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Aug 23, 2017 16:03:11 GMT
Philip Rucker... "Trump tells crowd saying pardon Arpaio, "I won’t do it tonight b/c I don’t want to cause any controversy....But Sheriff Joe can feel good" 🚫 # MAGA ^^^ the fact that he would even be considering this is appalling to me. Sheriff Joe deserves whatever he gets, and more, as far as I'm concerned. If Trump pardons him, it's just one more step forward on our path to the banana republic / oligarchy-land / whatever you want to call it.
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Post by PLurker on Aug 23, 2017 16:53:25 GMT
That speech last night ... how anyone can still support him is a mystery to me. The man is a lunatic. WaPo reported that the crowd thinned significantly during his speech as people lost interest in his incoherent rambling.I hope that continues. At a faster speed please- leaving him standing all alone.
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Post by femalebusiness on Aug 23, 2017 18:23:53 GMT
That speech last night ... how anyone can still support him is a mystery to me. The man is a lunatic. WaPo reported that the crowd thinned significantly during his speech as people lost interest in his incoherent rambling. What is heartening to me is that more and more of the mainstream media is stepping up to say he is mentally ill and a liar. They are using those words and not speaking euphemistically any more.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 18:32:41 GMT
ABC News...
"WATCH LIVE: #PresidentTrump: "We are not defined by the color of our skin. We are defined by our shared humanity." abc7news.com/7704/"
Nice sentiment but the color of one's skin does matter to you and you have absolutely no humanity.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 19:06:02 GMT
Ouch!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 19:13:58 GMT
Hillary's book due out soon and between trump's rants that has been the topic of conversation on cable.
Paul Waldman wrote an opinion piece for the Washington Post that I think makes good points. In the piece there are reasons why she lost. And they are all valid. But to me the biggest reason she lost was the voters didn't do their homework and they didn't take the election for president seriously.
The article...
The Plum Line Opinion
Has Hillary Clinton abased herself sufficiently to satisfy her critics?
By Paul Waldman August 23 at 1:50 PM
Hillary Clinton's new book, 'What Happened,' comes out Sept. 12, but audio excerpts were made public on Aug. 23. (Monica Akhtar/The Washington Post) Hillary Clinton’s book about the 2016 campaign, “What Happened,” won’t be out for a few weeks, but this morning a few brief excerpts from the audiobook were played on “Morning Joe.” And as usual, a great deal of the focus is on whether Clinton is taking sufficient responsibility for her defeat.
So we need to ask ourselves: Why is it so important to so many people that Clinton perform a ritual of self-abasement?
If you don’t recall a chorus of angry calls for Mitt Romney or John McCain or John Kerry or Al Gore to get down on their knees and beg forgiveness for their failures every time they appeared in public after losing their presidential elections, that’s because it didn’t happen. Only Hillary Clinton is subject to this demand"
And when she takes responsibility, as she has before, her words are carefully scrutinized to see if she’s being self-critical enough. When she said in May that she took responsibility for her loss but also pointed out that she would have won had James B. Comey not made that dramatic email announcement 11 days before the election — which is almost certainly true — the comments were greeted by a round of scolding from reporters who obviously felt that she was not sufficiently humbled.
Well here’s what she says in the book:
“Every day that I was a candidate for president, I knew that millions of people were counting on me, and I couldn’t bear the idea of letting them down — but I did. I couldn’t get the job done, and I’ll have to live with that for the rest of my life.”
Is that abject enough for you?
We’re going to be talking about the 2016 election for a long time, because it was one of the most dramatic and consequential in American history, and it brought us President Trump. Which means that reporters are going to continue to receive criticism of their coverage, particularly the way they covered Clinton. Some of them react to that criticism by rattling off things Clinton did wrong, as a way of saying that it isn’t their fault she lost.
So let’s say this really slowly: It’s possible to simultaneously acknowledge that 1) Clinton made plenty of mistakes, and 2) there were egregious problems with the way the campaign was covered, problems that contributed to the outcome. Calling attention to the latter doesn’t negate the former.
And boy, were there ever problems with the coverage. Consider that the New York Times and The Washington Post struck a deal with Peter Schweitzer, the author of a book called “Clinton Cash,” for exclusive access to the material in the book, which alleged corrupt dealings at the Clinton Foundation. Even though Schweitzer’s particulars amounted to little more than a lot of nefarious insinuation without evidence of actual wrongdoing, the initial burst of front-page coverage the book received was enough to set off endless cable news chatter about the Clinton Foundation, all of it with the implication that Clinton was guilty of all manner of ethically questionable actions.
To be fair, there were subsequent debunkings of many of the charges. But the narrative of Clinton as hopelessly corrupt was in place, and it formed the basis of Trump’s characterization of her as “Crooked Hillary.” Over time, mainly via constant chatter on cable news, including from some mainstream journalists, “Clinton Cash” found the mainstream legitimization it needed to set this narrative in motion despite the fact that it was written under the aegis of the Government Accountability Institute, an organization run by a gentleman named Stephen K. Bannon. You may have heard of him.
That’s not even to get into the orgy of coverage of Clinton’s emails, which reporters treated as though it were the most important issue that the American public would confront in the entire 21st century. As multiple subsequent analyses have found, the email story was far and away the most prominent topic of news coverage during the campaign, a focus that from the vantage point of today seems somewhere between ridiculous and insane. The point is, it’s not exactly crazy for Clinton to have a complaint or two about the way she was covered, nor is it crazy for her to mention that the Russian government was apparently working to support her opponent, something unprecedented in American history.
Did she make mistakes? Of course she did. She was too complacent about states such as Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin that Democrats hadn’t lost in many presidential campaigns. Her criticisms of Trump were too focused on what a repugnant human being he is and not enough on his agenda to help the wealthy and powerful. She didn’t do enough to turn out black and Hispanic voters. You could make a long list.
But every candidate, even those who win, makes lots of mistakes. There are no perfect campaigns. If a hundred thousand votes spread across a few states had gone a different way, we would be talking about what a genius she was and how ludicrous the Trump campaign strategy was.
So again, why were other presidential losers never told to voluntarily submit themselves to a ritual humiliation? I can’t prove to you empirically that sexism is the reason that demand is only made of Clinton, but previous candidates didn’t find their occasional post-election comments greeted with headlines like “Dear Hillary Clinton, please stop talking about 2016” or “Can Hillary Clinton please go quietly into the night?,” or “Hillary Clinton shouldn’t be writing a book — she should be drafting a long apology to America” (that last op-ed began with the line, “Hey, Hillary Clinton, shut the f— up and go away already”). Only Clinton is supposed to beg for forgiveness, absolve everyone else of any sins they committed in 2016, and whip herself until we’re good and satisfied that she has been punished enough.
Like everyone else, I haven’t read “What Happened.” Maybe it’s a candid and insightful look behind the scenes of an extraordinary campaign. Or maybe it’s the kind of shallow and self-serving book most politicians write. But the last thing we should care about is whether Clinton apologizes sufficiently for losing."
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Post by artgirl1 on Aug 23, 2017 19:16:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 19:29:10 GMT
From trump...
"Last night in Phoenix I read the things from my statements on Charlottesville that the Fake News Media didn't cover fairly. People got it!"
Yea that got that you lied yet again.
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