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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 19:34:41 GMT
Brian Schaffner thread...
"Looked at one other thing today -- general election presidential vote based on primary vote, among validated primary & general voters 1/n"
Nationally, among those we can validate as voting in a prez primary and the general election, 12% of Bernie Sanders voters voted for Trump"
"WI: 9% of Sanders voters voted for Trump. MI: 8% of Sanders voters voted for Trump. PA: 16% of Sanders voters voted for Trump 3/n"
"Trump lost some support, too, of course. 34% of Kasich primary voters voted for Clinton. And 11% of Rubio primary voters did the same. 4/n"
"But 12% defection rate among Sanders voters was higher than I expected. (Which is why I waited for the validation before I believed it.) 5/5"
"Since people have raised the issue: defection rate is same for registered Ds, so this may not be a closed vs open primary story."
Why this matters is Hillary lost those three states by around 110,000 votes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 19:56:24 GMT
linkYet another article... In The Atlantic ..The Republican Party is enabling an increasingly dangerous demagogue." By Jim Fallows. From the article.... But Trump broke new ground last night in attacking not just the missteps of reporters, or their assumptions, or their selective focus, or their process-mindedness, or any of the multiple other failings we reporters actually have. Instead he attacked their—our—loyalty, patriotism, motivation, and honesty. “You have some very good reporters,” he allowed in his speech last night, much as he stipulated back in 2015 that not all Mexicans were rapists. (“They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.” This was, again, the way he kicked off his campaign.) Some reporters, like some Mexicans, are good. Which leads to the but: But for the most part, honestly, these are really, really dishonest people, and they're bad people. And I really think they don't like our country. I really believe that. And I don't believe they're going to change… The only people giving a platform to these hate groups is the media itself, and the fake news.
For the most part, these are really, really dishonest people. They’re bad people. They really don’t like our country. And not just that: These are sick people.
You know the thing I don't understand? You would think—you would think they'd want to make our country great again, and I honestly believe they don't. I honestly believe it.Sick people. Who don’t want the best for our country. Not critics. Enemies." So if you don't agree with trump then you don't love this country. You aren't patriotic. What the Republicans in Congress are doing, in spite of trump yelling at McConnell for not protecting him in the Russia probe, is protecting trump so they can protect their power. And that is sad. 🚫 #MAGA
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 20:10:03 GMT
linkFrom Benjamin Wittes at Lawfare... "trump as National Security Threat Revisted" In March 2016 Benjamin wrote a piece outlining his concerns about trump. In this piece he revisits his concerns and provides an evaluation. From the article.... "Never before in my lifetime has either political party been led by a man with such an unusual combination of—from a national security perspective, anyway—terrifying liabilities. Individually, each would be grounds for concern. In combination with one another and as embodied in a single political figure of extreme charisma and proven attractiveness to a significant swath of the electorate, they are a toxic brew that I have no doubt makes this country less secure. They do this, I suspect, even if Trump is not ultimately elected President but merely becomes the Republican nominee."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 21:35:00 GMT
ABC News....
"Angela Merkel says she understands its support, but "America first" attitude will only hurt the U.S. in the end abcn.ws/2vfNIbf"
Duh.
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Post by samantha25 on Aug 23, 2017 22:31:32 GMT
Where is superman to turn back time? I wish he could....
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Post by artgirl1 on Aug 23, 2017 22:44:42 GMT
from Instagram "The bodies of ten Navy Seamen were found yesterday and Trump didn't even mention them nor hold a moment of silence in their honor--instead he whined like a baby and aired his grievances." Just as he failed to acknowledge the loss of military personnel in the Osprey crash, or the 8 (?) seamen who died in the earlier crash in the Pacific. Also the White House has already prepared the paperwork to pardon Joe Arpaio, despite the fact that he was found guilty by a federal judge. from Bloomberg Politics The vast majority of presidential pardons are processed and vetted through the U.S. Justice Department’s Office of the Pardon Attorney. The pardon attorney’s website says, "All requests for executive clemency for federal offenses are directed to the Pardon Attorney for investigation and review." No such request has been made on Arpaio’s behalf. And the Justice Department’s guidelines say pardon requests shouldn’t be made until five years have passed after the completion of a sentence, or from the sentencing date if no confinement is ordered. The president can grant a pardon "to any individual he deems fit, irrespective of whether an application has been filed with the Office of the Pardon Attorney," and at any time after the commission of an offense, according to the Congressional Research Service. this is a very good analysis of the issue. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-would-be-a-travesty-of-justice/2017/08/21/6b273386-8699-11e7-961d-2f373b3977ee_story.html?utm_term=.56165c467aadtells congress to "fund the Wall or I will shut down the government". So much for Mexico paying for it. I just can't deal with President Loco anymore. At some point, congress must demand a competency hearing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 23:07:52 GMT
Steve Kopack....
"Pres. historian Meacham predicts on MSNBC that Trump went after media so aggressively tonight because of coming news (known or unknown)"
Now what?
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Post by missfrenchjessica on Aug 23, 2017 23:18:40 GMT
Steve Kopack.... "Pres. historian Meacham predicts on MSNBC that Trump went after media so aggressively tonight because of coming news (known or unknown)" Now what?Perhaps this?Just caught this on CNN a few minutes ago. Why is it I wake up every day and wonder what crap he's spewing or what insanity he's doing today? Just...why?
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Post by prapea on Aug 23, 2017 23:20:53 GMT
He didn't even acknowledge or check on senator McCain and how he is doing. Instead he was bitching about them. Is he indirectly asking to be fired?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Aug 23, 2017 23:39:48 GMT
Somebody posted crowd shots on Twitter and it seems the crowd wasn't that substantial even before and at the beginning of the speech. One of my high school friends lives in Mesa now. On her feed last night there were people who posted screen shots of Craigslist ads and some other local type of ad seeking to pay attendees at the rally. If you showed up at 6 p.m., you got a ticket that you could turn in for cash at 9 p.m. And I don't agree with this tactic, but several people say they requested tickets using several different emails with the intent not to show at all. The crowd looked sparse enough that they could've let in anyone after a certain point, but don't take a spot that any crazy Trump supporter might want. What is insane to me is this: Are we all watching these things live at the same time? Some Trump supporters are insisting that CNN muted the sound of the crowd and also delayed it slightly so they could edit on the go. If it didn't make me delusional, I'd ask to have some of what they're smoking. And when we're watching this stuff live, Trump lies when he says the media edits it to make him look bad. He says what he says and it's insane from start to finish. No editing needed. I switched from CNN to MSNBC with hopes that MSNBC wouldn't be covering it since I can't stand to watch or listen to him. It seemed exactly the same live feed to me. I saw the ads! I just deleted on from my phone this afternoon.
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Post by casii on Aug 23, 2017 23:41:24 GMT
He didn't even acknowledge or check on senator McCain and how he is doing. Instead he was bitching about them. Is he indirectly asking to be fired? Apparently a Trump supporter shouted that McCain needed to die. Megan McCain had some choice words for them. McCain slams Trump supporter
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Aug 23, 2017 23:49:50 GMT
I'm so tired of the Trump circus.
It is truly exhausting to try to keep up with everything that happens everyday. And I feel like I need to because there are no peaceful days. No days when he has brought something good.
I feel like I'm always waiting on the next disaster.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 0:44:44 GMT
From trump's speech today in Reno....
"We are here to draw inspiration from you as we seek to renew the bonds of loyalty that bind us together as one people and one nation,” Trump said to the Legion’s national convention in Reno. “Those who wear the nation's uniform come from all different backgrounds and every single walk of life. They are all united by shared values and a shared sense of duty.”
WSJ...
"Breaking: White House to direct Pentagon to deny admission to transgender people"
I guess none of this applies if you are transgender.....
🚫 #MAGA
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 2:00:08 GMT
Steve Kopack.... "Pres. historian Meacham predicts on MSNBC that Trump went after media so aggressively tonight because of coming news (known or unknown)" Now what? The "now what" could be the famous Russian dossier. This week the co-founder of Fusion GPS Glenn Simpson spent 10 hours being interviewed/questioned by staff of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Fusion GPS also gave the Committee 40,000 documents pertaining to the dossier. Afterwards Simpson's lawyer Josh Levy released a statement stating, among other things, that if the Committee released a transcript of the 10 hour interview it's ok with Fusion GPS as they stand behind the information in the dossier. That was yesterday and Insaw all this on Rachel Maddow's show. Tonight at a townhall meeting hosted by the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee Senator Grassley one of his constituents asked when would this transcript be released? One of those straight forward no nonsense guys. Polite but firm that he wanted to see a copy of the transcript. Grassley tapped dance around but said he would take a vote with other Committee members and he sees no reason why it couldn't be released. But then maybe the Committee would hold an open hearing with Simpson and Paul Manafort and someone else caused he mumbled. So will the transcript be released or will Grassley & Company continue to protect trump? And will more people like the guy at the townhall meeting start demanding the transcript be released to the public? trump must have known about the meeting Simpson had with Judiciary Committee when he gave his little rant last night.
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Post by Ryann on Aug 24, 2017 2:16:22 GMT
From SF Gate a comment from trump's USDA pick... "As far as we know [being gay] is a choice that they make, right?" he said in a video. "We're being asked to provide constitutional protections for a behavior as opposed to a primary characteristic." No they don't chose to be gay but as you have proven with comments like this, one can chose to be an asshole.... Whenever I hear/read comments like the one quoted by trump's USDA pick, I always think to myself -- so if they think people are making a choice to be gay, then does that mean he (USDA guy) is making the choice to be straight? when he gets up in the morning and picks out his clothes to wear, does he also pick his sexual orientation for the day? He just always chooses straight and not gay? Ugh. /smh
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 2:41:22 GMT
The Hill....
"#BREAKING: Trump set to implement transgender military ban, allow removal of current transgender troops: report hill.cm/qFAvvkG"
This is the action of a small minded petty little man.
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Post by flute4peace on Aug 24, 2017 2:51:50 GMT
I'm so tired of the Trump circus. It is truly exhausting to try to keep up with everything that happens everyday. And I feel like I need to because there are no peaceful days. No days when he has brought something good. I feel like I'm always waiting on the next disaster. I had to take a break during the N Korea crap. I'm a child of the 80s and just couldn't handle rhat fear again.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Aug 24, 2017 4:51:30 GMT
The Hill.... "#BREAKING: Trump set to implement transgender military ban, allow removal of current transgender troops: report hill.cm/qFAvvkG" This is the action of a small minded petty little man. He's so disgusting. I can't wait until we can implement a Trump ban, and allow removal of current Trumps in the White House.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 13:13:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 14:54:57 GMT
6/14/2016.....
"Thank you to the LGBT community! I will fight for you while Hillary brings in more people that will threaten your freedoms and beliefs."
T = transgender. Roughly a year after the tweet look what he is doing.
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Post by femalebusiness on Aug 24, 2017 15:57:59 GMT
Except for a few posters on this board.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 20:32:42 GMT
This tweet from trump....
"James Clapper, who famously got caught lying to Congress, is now an authority on Donald Trump. Will he show you his beautiful letter to me?"
Prompted this response from James Clapper....
"James Clapper on Thursday explained the “beautiful letter” President Trump claimed the former intel chief sent him. “James Clapper, who famously got caught lying to Congress, is now an authority on Donald Trump. Will he show you his beautiful letter to me?” the president tweeted in response to Clapper on Wednesday questioning Trump’s “fitness” to be president. As Clapper explained to CNN’s Jake Tapper, that “beautiful letter” was just a pre-written memo he planned to send to either Trump or Hillary Clinton—depending on who won the election. “The night before the election, we deployed two teams so that we would be ready to provide a [presidential daily briefing] the next morning to whomever won,” he explained. “I hand-wrote almost identical short notes to each of the two candidates to accompany the first brief as President-elect; only one actually got deployed—the one to him.”
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 22:47:12 GMT
linkFrom Politico..... "Thursday morning, McConnell said the president, along with the GOP-controlled House and Senate, “is very oriented toward rural and small-town America.” Really? Let's see the Republicans are trying very hard to take away health care from a lot of folks who live in rural and small-town America. The current version of the budget cuts programs that benefit these areas. trump and company have already started rolling back regulations that protect the water in these areas. They plan a huge tax cuts for people who don't live in these areas and very little tax relief for the people who do live in these areas. So I'm wondering what do they mean by "oriented" because it sounds more, based on their actions and intentions, the correct word should be "screw"?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 22:53:49 GMT
linkFrom Politico..... "President Donald Trump promised to bring a fresh, outsider approach to the Oval Office, but about 7 in 10 voters nonetheless say the commander in chief’s behavior “is not what I expect from a president,” according to a poll released Thursday. The George Washington University poll found that 71 percent of voters had that view of Trump’s comportment in office, while 27 percent disagreed that his behavior was not what they expected." His behavior is not what they expected? It's not like he tried to hide anything. He put it out there for all to see... Unbelievable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 4:35:40 GMT
Here it is
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Post by lucyg on Aug 25, 2017 4:53:45 GMT
@zingermack ... can you see us now?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 5:07:11 GMT
@zingermack ... can you see us now? Totally bizarro. I can see this post in my notifications, but not the thread when I look for it in the NSBR threads. I think it's probably my blocker somehow weeding it out. But, thanks for tagging me here 'til I sort that out. Back story: Trump retweeted a post showing him eclipsing Obama (as if). If only he understood that the ratio of brightness of the sun (what was eclipsed briefly on Monday) versus the moon amounts to a difference of 398,110 to 1. Also, that the moon only obscures the sun for a few minutes a few times a year. Perhaps he should think a bit before reposting a meme. Never mind.
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Post by PLurker on Aug 25, 2017 5:38:26 GMT
@zingermack ... can you see us now? Totally bizarro. I can see this post in my notifications, but not the thread when I look for it in the NSBR threads. I think it's probably my blocker somehow weeding it out. But, thanks for tagging me here 'til I sort that out. Back story: Trump retweeted a post showing him eclipsing Obama (as if). If only he understood that the ratio of brightness of the sun (what was eclipsed briefly on Monday) versus the moon amounts to a difference of 398,110 to 1. Also, that the moon only obscures the sun for a few minutes a few times a year. Perhaps he should think a bit before reposting a meme. Never mind. when I saw his retweet on twitter, I couldn't help myself. I replied something like, 'thank goodness! Eclipses don't last long. What a relief!' In the big scheme of things it is of little consequence but it made me feel better. and I could be on his 'bad girl' list. I'm a repeat offender.
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Post by lucyg on Aug 25, 2017 5:43:19 GMT
If the Secret Service doesn't pay for their accommodations at a for-profit resort, it may constitute a gift to the government. (Again, don't take my word for it, we have lots of lawyers here who may know better.) But that doesn't mean the resort needs to make a big profit on it, either. A heavily discounted price might be both legal and much more ethical. As far as Bush and Obama's homes go, they aren't for-profit operations. Other people don't pay to stay there. It IS different. This president chooses to spend large amounts of time at his for-profit homes-away-from-home, which puts money in his own pocket when the Secret Service pays full price for their accommodations on his own property. Ok. I think I'm following you, but I'm not sure. I guess my thinking was that I assume Trump, were he not President, wouldn't pay to stay at, or eat at, Mar-a-lago, or to golf at his other golf clubs, it makes no sense that the Secret Service now has to pay. If Trump weren't President everything he did at the properties he owns would be free; they'd write it all off, just like McDonalds will let their employees have all the pop they want, no charge. So why would he now start paying for what prior to being President he just took for free? lucyg I'm late getting back to this thread, so maybe someone else has responded to your questions, but in case not ... I imagine Trump stays for free. But since he CAN charge the Secret Service full price, no doubt he DOES. This is Trump we're talking about. I bet they're paying the rack rate, which no one ever pays, right? I think he should charge them a heavily discounted rate, if he can't legally give it away for free. But it's Trump, so we know he'll make as much bank on this gig as he possibly can.
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Post by cycworker on Aug 25, 2017 6:23:36 GMT
Ok. I think I'm following you, but I'm not sure. I guess my thinking was that I assume Trump, were he not President, wouldn't pay to stay at, or eat at, Mar-a-lago, or to golf at his other golf clubs, it makes no sense that the Secret Service now has to pay. If Trump weren't President everything he did at the properties he owns would be free; they'd write it all off, just like McDonalds will let their employees have all the pop they want, no charge. So why would he now start paying for what prior to being President he just took for free? lucyg I'm late getting back to this thread, so maybe someone else has responded to your questions, but in case not ... I imagine Trump stays for free. But since he CAN charge the Secret Service full price, no doubt he DOES. This is Trump we're talking about. I bet they're paying the rack rate, which no one ever pays, right? I think he should charge them a heavily discounted rate, if he can't legally give it away for free. But it's Trump, so we know he'll make as much bank on this gig as he possibly can. Ok. My argument is that the gov't/congress should say no we won't let you charge more than X.
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