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Post by alibama on Aug 28, 2014 14:36:19 GMT
Sometimes I get so irritated on the trail. We have a very nice greenway that runs along the river. it is 10.75 miles up and back. It is a really nice trail so there are lots of people on there all the time.
What bugs me is those that think they own the whole trail, walk three in a group and take up the whole space, or even walking side by side and taking up all the rode. Or those that are walking their dogs and let them have loose leashes to kill everyone else. I always seem to get these people when I am trying to go up a hill and I have to slow down. I am not a rude biker I will wait my turn but dang have some consideration for others around you. When my husband and I rode together we rode side by side but he has a mirror to see if there are faster bikers coming so we can move or if there are others in that spot we ride one front one back.
Last night I had to dodge a chicken on the trail. Someone has a chicken coop right next to it. I am surprised that they don't keep them contained. There is a lot of dogs out there and I am sure they go crazy seeing the chickens. I had to hit my brakes last night that poor chicken saw me coming and couldn't decide which way to run lol.
So my vent for the day.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Aug 28, 2014 16:11:19 GMT
That would bother me too. But, had to say, how nice to have a beautiful trail nearby!
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Aug 28, 2014 16:14:55 GMT
Or those that are walking their dogs and let them have loose leashes to kill everyone else.
Whaaaaat?? you are going to have to explain that to me!
We have a greenway near us too and I think people are not very considerate of others
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Post by withapea on Aug 28, 2014 16:24:56 GMT
People that don't pick up their dog's poop. I'm a dog owner, I never leave the house without a few bags when I have my dog. So gross and inconsiderate.
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Post by grammyj64 on Aug 28, 2014 16:46:26 GMT
I have some of the same gripes, although I am a walker, not a biker. I tend to stay to the right of the path, expecting runners and bikers to pass me on the left - logical, (to me) since that's the way we drive in the US. I have my earbuds in listening to music and I can't always hear somebody approaching, but I can hear people speak. How much trouble would it be for a biker to call out "watch your left" or something to let me know they are there. I almost got run over by a teenager who was biking on the sidewalk (not sure that's even legal) and when I became aware of him, I stepped to my right and he passed me ON THE RIGHT!
Dogs off the leash or on a long leash - yeah, I've been known to cross the street to avoid, but that isn't always possible. Dog poop on the sidewalk and grass is a big peeve of mine.
I will always attempt to make eye contact and greet people I'm meeting on the sidewalk or trail, and I am always surprised when they avert their eyes or do not return the greeting. I'm not trying to start a lengthy conversation, just to acknowledge your existence on the planet. Is it so hard to say "hi" in return?
On the whole, though, I am grateful to live in a community that keeps up its common spaces - well worth the HOA dues, IMO - and is safe for an old lady to get out and walk, and has mostly friendly neighbors.
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Post by alibama on Aug 28, 2014 17:09:56 GMT
We have lots of people walk or run with their dogs and keep the dog beside them just let them wander around. Now there is a lot that do a great job of it too. As for the on your left thing, I admit I am bad about that. If there is plenty of room for me to pass you and I am not getting near you I don't say it, if I am going to get close to you I do. 99 percent of time I am out of breath anyway so its hard for me to speak. When I walk I hate it when people are always yelling on your left to me. Scares the crap out of me lol. I don't listen to music for that reason. As for the eye contact thing I know exactly what you mean. I always try to smile or something but probably 75 percent of people will look away. Am I that repulsive
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Post by kmk1112 on Aug 28, 2014 17:52:45 GMT
If I were walking in a group, I wouldn't feel bad about spreading out over the whole walkway until we were asked to move by an upcoming biker. My boss and I walk daily on a sidewalk by work, and every once in a while a runner will come up behind us and we just scoot over. It would be strange for me for us to walk single file.
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Post by monklady123 on Aug 28, 2014 18:18:36 GMT
Or those that are walking their dogs and let them have loose leashes to kill everyone else. Whaaaaat?? you are going to have to explain that to me! We have a greenway near us too and I think people are not very considerate of others I think she means people who walk their dog on a leash and let the dog wander all over, at the end of the leash and sniffing wherever they want, rather than keeping the dog at their side. The leash is a hazard for bikers. I agree, especially since three days ago when my dh wiped out on his bike because of three people on the trail. ugh. They were walking abreast of each other and over on the left. Dh was riding on the right and came around a corner and there they were. He swerved to avoid them (although in retrospect he says he should have just braked hard and hoped for the best), hit the side restraining wall and skidded along the ground. The helmet is actually cracked. Thankfully he's not one of these macho types who thinks helmets are just for kids. Several hours in the ER, xrays, etc. and no broken bones, just a lot of bruises and scrapes.
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Post by aggiebonfire00 on Aug 28, 2014 19:07:17 GMT
I was running last weekend and a group of bikers almost pushed me off the sidewalk. Seriously a-holes!?!?!?! If I see them on my long run Saturday, I am going to push them off of their bikes. HA HA.
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Post by luvnlifelady on Aug 28, 2014 19:10:36 GMT
That reminds me of the problems with the trail on the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco. There are many tourists there that have rented bikes nearby, some a bit wobbly on their bikes or just slow riders in general. For some reason, the "serious" bikers seem to think it's the Autobahn of biking and just go as fast as if they're the only ones there. They must know it's a high-use tourist spot and I'm sure in San Francisco there are many other places to do "real" biking. I just don't get it. (End of vent)
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Post by not2peased on Aug 28, 2014 19:11:09 GMT
those are all pet peeves of mine too-drives me bonkers. I always call out, "on your left" when I approach a walker or a runner from behind but very few people do that
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Post by gar on Aug 28, 2014 19:11:11 GMT
It would be strange for me for us to walk single file. I agree..not a very sociable walk, one behind the other in case a cyclist wanted to pass.
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Post by eastcoastpea on Aug 28, 2014 19:14:40 GMT
Or those that are walking their dogs and let them have loose leashes to kill everyone else. Whaaaaat?? you are going to have to explain that to me! We have a greenway near us too and I think people are not very considerate of others I think she means people who walk their dog on a leash and let the dog wander all over, at the end of the leash and sniffing wherever they want, rather than keeping the dog at their side. The leash is a hazard for bikers. I agree, especially since three days ago when my dh wiped out on his bike because of three people on the trail. ugh. They were walking abreast of each other and over on the left. Dh was riding on the right and came around a corner and there they were. He swerved to avoid them (although in retrospect he says he should have just braked hard and hoped for the best), hit the side restraining wall and skidded along the ground. The helmet is actually cracked. Thankfully he's not one of these macho types who thinks helmets are just for kids. Several hours in the ER, xrays, etc. and no broken bones, just a lot of bruises and scrapes. I'm glad your husband was wearing a helmet. Head injuries are scary stuff.
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Post by alibama on Aug 28, 2014 20:22:14 GMT
I was running last weekend and a group of bikers almost pushed me off the sidewalk. Seriously a-holes!?!?!?! If I see them on my long run Saturday, I am going to push them off of their bikes. HA HA. OH I am so glad he was wearing his helmet! and that he was not hurt worse! After DH accident he would never be caught without one. He is still in his neck and back brace until the end of the month. I see all kinds of people out there without helmets a lot of them flying. I want to stop each of them and show them pictures of my husband. That would scare them straight ha ha
As for the walking together I don't have a problem with that but there should always be room for someone to pass on the left. If I am coming up behind people like that I will say on your left if I can. I said before I huff and puff pretty bad so sometimes talking is out for me. (My allergies kill me when someone is mowing or freshly mowed and you can forget when go through the park and the Charcoal Grills are going, those get me so bad I have to stop.
kmk1112 I would never expect people to walk in a single file on this trail there is room for four side by side.
I will say it is an awesome trail and I am thankful to have it.
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Post by caangel on Aug 28, 2014 22:08:59 GMT
I have some of the same gripes, although I am a walker, not a biker. I tend to stay to the right of the path, expecting runners and bikers to pass me on the left - logical, (to me) since that's the way we drive in the US. I have my earbuds in listening to music and I can't always hear somebody approaching, but I can hear people speak. How much trouble would it be for a biker to call out "watch your left" or something to let me know they are there. I prefer bikers to use their bell. I found when bikers us a bell I immediately could distinguish it from my whatever I may be listening to and I immediately knew to move to the right. When bikers shout I couldn't always distinguish their voices from what I was listening to an if I did it seemed to take me a few more seconds to process what they were saying. CA angel
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Post by peasful1 on Aug 28, 2014 23:25:03 GMT
on my favourite hiking trail there are always great big piles of horse poo right in the middle. That bugs me.
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Post by Aheartfeltcard on Aug 28, 2014 23:30:20 GMT
Sometimes I get so irritated on the trail. We have a very nice greenway that runs along the river. it is 10.75 miles up and back. It is a really nice trail so there are lots of people on there all the time.
What bugs me is those that think they own the whole trail, walk three in a group and take up the whole space, or even walking side by side and taking up all the rode. Or those that are walking their dogs and let them have loose leashes to kill everyone else. I always seem to get these people when I am trying to go up a hill and I have to slow down. I am not a rude biker I will wait my turn but dang have some consideration for others around you. When my husband and I rode together we rode side by side but he has a mirror to see if there are faster bikers coming so we can move or if there are others in that spot we ride one front one back.
Last night I had to dodge a chicken on the trail. Someone has a chicken coop right next to it. I am surprised that they don't keep them contained. There is a lot of dogs out there and I am sure they go crazy seeing the chickens. I had to hit my brakes last night that poor chicken saw me coming and couldn't decide which way to run lol.
So my vent for the day. I really hate people with dogs in enclosed spaces. I'm sorry they just do not belong. And every 2 person has a vicious pitbull or Rottweiler . Please do not tell me they are predictable either!
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Post by melanell on Aug 29, 2014 0:09:27 GMT
When my kids and I walk we walk side by side, too, but if you pay attention to your surroundings, which you should do anyway, you can hear or see or even feel someone approaching and be considerate and change your formation, so to speak.
I always say "pull over" when that happens, which is my kids'/Mom's/friends' cue to all get to the side of the road. I say it for cyclists, joggers, faster walkers, people with dogs, etc. on trails, and for cars when we're on the road as well.
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Post by sharlag on Aug 29, 2014 1:28:48 GMT
As for the eye contact thing I know exactly what you mean. I always try to smile or something but probably 75 percent of people will look away. Am I that repulsive Acknowledging/eye contact is awkward. How far out do we do the smile/nod/verbal greeting? I can see folks 100 ft or more away if the path/road is straight. Well, that's too far to initiate the greeting. So I'm then awkwardly focusing on WHEN to acknowledge the oncoming person. That's all I can focus on. Are they looking at me now? How about now? Do I wait for them to do one of the gestures of 'oncoming path user howdies'? If you do your greeting too soon, then when you actually intersect/pass, do give another nod or smile? It's very gray and wishy-washy and stressful. Sometimes when I see someone approaching, I put my phone to my ear and pretend to be intent on a conversation, to take away the terrible path-greeting issues.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 1:32:10 GMT
As for the eye contact thing I know exactly what you mean. I always try to smile or something but probably 75 percent of people will look away. Am I that repulsive Acknowledging/eye contact is awkward. How far out do we do the smile/nod/verbal greeting? I can see folks 100 ft or more away if the path/road is straight. Well, that's too far to initiate the greeting. So I'm then awkwardly focusing on WHEN to acknowledge the oncoming person. That's all I can focus on. Are they looking at me now? How about now? Do I wait for them to do one of the gestures of 'oncoming path user howdies'? If you do your greeting too soon, then when you actually intersect/pass, do give another nod or smile? It's very gray and wishy-washy and stressful. Sometimes when I see someone approaching, I put my phone to my ear and pretend to be intent on a conversation, to take away the terrible path-greeting issues. I think you are overthinking it just a tad. It's a hi, not a thesis.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 1:57:30 GMT
The paved trail that I walk at is the senior citizen meet and greet in the mornings. It wouldn't be so bad but they stop in the middle of the trail, sometimes with their dogs, and chat away while everyone has to manuever around them. They're totally oblivious to it which is mind boggling since I've been walking/running on this same trail for years, and had to dodge them.
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Post by scrapsuzy on Aug 29, 2014 2:38:06 GMT
I have lived for the past 22 years in a city that has 90 miles of paved paths. I'll see all of the complaints above and add golfcarts (that can go up to 30mph) to the mix. Worse, golfcarts driven by obnoxious teenagers. (Half of the households in our city have golfcarts, but most of them don't play golf.)
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Post by SAHM wannabe on Aug 29, 2014 3:31:44 GMT
That reminds me of the problems with the trail on the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco. There are many tourists there that have rented bikes nearby, some a bit wobbly on their bikes or just slow riders in general. For some reason, the "serious" bikers seem to think it's the Autobahn of biking and just go as fast as if they're the only ones there. They must know it's a high-use tourist spot and I'm sure in San Francisco there are many other places to do "real" biking. I just don't get it. (End of vent) My DS 11, DD 10, and I were those tourists last month. In addition to the wind, fog, and height, there were several high-speed bikers who scared the crap out of me. The bike company that rented the bikes to us painted a picture of a nice, leisurely bike ride. Guess what? They lied!! Bike riding across the Golden Gate Bridge was not on my bucket list, but I have checked it off anyway.
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Post by hennybutton on Aug 29, 2014 3:52:05 GMT
I have some of the same gripes, although I am a walker, not a biker. I tend to stay to the right of the path, expecting runners and bikers to pass me on the left - logical, (to me) since that's the way we drive in the US. I have my earbuds in listening to music and I can't always hear somebody approaching, but I can hear people speak. How much trouble would it be for a biker to call out "watch your left" or something to let me know they are there. I prefer bikers to use their bell. I found when bikers us a bell I immediately could distinguish it from my whatever I may be listening to and I immediately knew to move to the right. When bikers shout I couldn't always distinguish their voices from what I was listening to an if I did it seemed to take me a few more seconds to process what they were saying. CA angel I agree. I've been walking the paved path along the beach this summer. I stay to the right and always appreciate bikers who ring their bells when their behind me. Because I walk on the beach, I have a couple of unusual peeves. First, most men would benefit from wearing a shirt while walking, running, or biking. Seriously dude, that body is nothing to be showing off. Second, it's cool that you like music, but when that speaker mounted on your handlebars drowns out the audiobook I'm listening to on my headphones, that's rude and obnoxious. This morning was the worst. I had just started off on my walk and some shirtless runner dude passes me about six inches away. He was so sweaty, I felt spray coming off him. EWWWW!
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Post by alibama on Aug 29, 2014 11:56:13 GMT
I will ewwww right along with you on that one!
I don't have a bell on my bike maybe I should do that. it would take care of my not being able to speak.
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Post by sharlag on Aug 29, 2014 13:05:23 GMT
I prefer bikers to use their bell. I found when bikers us a bell I immediately could distinguish it from my whatever I may be listening to and I immediately knew to move to the right. When bikers shout I couldn't always distinguish their voices from what I was listening to an if I did it seemed to take me a few more seconds to process what they were saying. CA angel I agree. I've been walking the paved path along the beach this summer. I stay to the right and always appreciate bikers who ring their bells when their behind me. Because I walk on the beach, I have a couple of unusual peeves. First, most men would benefit from wearing a shirt while walking, running, or biking. Seriously dude, that body is nothing to be showing off. Second, it's cool that you like music, but when that speaker mounted on your handlebars drowns out the audiobook I'm listening to on my headphones, that's rude and obnoxious. This morning was the worst. I had just started off on my walk and some shirtless runner dude passes me about six inches away. He was so sweaty, I felt spray coming off him. EWWWW!
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Post by peano on Aug 29, 2014 13:28:12 GMT
Sometimes I get so irritated on the trail. We have a very nice greenway that runs along the river. it is 10.75 miles up and back. It is a really nice trail so there are lots of people on there all the time.
What bugs me is those that think they own the whole trail, walk three in a group and take up the whole space, or even walking side by side and taking up all the rode. Or those that are walking their dogs and let them have loose leashes to kill everyone else. I always seem to get these people when I am trying to go up a hill and I have to slow down. I am not a rude biker I will wait my turn but dang have some consideration for others around you. When my husband and I rode together we rode side by side but he has a mirror to see if there are faster bikers coming so we can move or if there are others in that spot we ride one front one back.
Last night I had to dodge a chicken on the trail. Someone has a chicken coop right next to it. I am surprised that they don't keep them contained. There is a lot of dogs out there and I am sure they go crazy seeing the chickens. I had to hit my brakes last night that poor chicken saw me coming and couldn't decide which way to run lol.
So my vent for the day. In my opinion, bikers belong on a separate path or on the road; they just don't mix well with pedestrians. I am cranky and sleep deprived but I'm finding it particularly irksome that not only are you demanding people have their dog on a leash, you are demanding that they have their dogs in a chokehold so you can whiz by on your bike shooting up a cloud of dust and gravel in their faces. At least that has been my experience sharing trails with bikers.
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Post by alibama on Aug 29, 2014 13:28:40 GMT
I agree. I've been walking the paved path along the beach this summer. I stay to the right and always appreciate bikers who ring their bells when their behind me. Because I walk on the beach, I have a couple of unusual peeves. First, most men would benefit from wearing a shirt while walking, running, or biking. Seriously dude, that body is nothing to be showing off. Second, it's cool that you like music, but when that speaker mounted on your handlebars drowns out the audiobook I'm listening to on my headphones, that's rude and obnoxious. This morning was the worst. I had just started off on my walk and some shirtless runner dude passes me about six inches away. He was so sweaty, I felt spray coming off him. EWWWW!
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Post by peabrain on Aug 29, 2014 14:20:38 GMT
I was going to say annoying bike horn, but a bell is probably more appropriate.
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Post by myshelly on Aug 29, 2014 14:22:07 GMT
Sometimes I get so irritated on the trail. We have a very nice greenway that runs along the river. it is 10.75 miles up and back. It is a really nice trail so there are lots of people on there all the time.
What bugs me is those that think they own the whole trail, walk three in a group and take up the whole space, or even walking side by side and taking up all the rode. Or those that are walking their dogs and let them have loose leashes to kill everyone else. I always seem to get these people when I am trying to go up a hill and I have to slow down. I am not a rude biker I will wait my turn but dang have some consideration for others around you. When my husband and I rode together we rode side by side but he has a mirror to see if there are faster bikers coming so we can move or if there are others in that spot we ride one front one back.
Last night I had to dodge a chicken on the trail. Someone has a chicken coop right next to it. I am surprised that they don't keep them contained. There is a lot of dogs out there and I am sure they go crazy seeing the chickens. I had to hit my brakes last night that poor chicken saw me coming and couldn't decide which way to run lol.
So my vent for the day. In my opinion, bikers belong on a separate path or on the road; they just don't mix well with pedestrians. I am cranky and sleep deprived but I'm finding it particularly irksome that not only are you demanding people have their dog on a leash, you are demanding that they have their dogs in a chokehold so you can whiz by on your bike shooting up a cloud of dust and gravel in their faces. At least that has been my experience sharing trails with bikers. Having your dog on a leash is the LAW here and in most places. Not having your dog by your side and under your control in public is unacceptable.
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