inkedup
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Post by inkedup on Aug 14, 2017 19:28:53 GMT
One of my best friends, someone I love and admired so much that I asked her to be in our wedding, is defending the Charlottesville marchers on Facebook. She's comparing the neo-Nazis who marched to Black Lives Matter, La Raza and other minority groups. She's excusing the Nazi rhetoric. She's spouting off about white oppression and PC culture and blah blah blah.
I'm astounded. This is a woman who was in my wedding. Who I thought loved me. But how can she love me and my brown skin and then defend this awfulness?
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Post by pondrunner on Aug 14, 2017 19:32:32 GMT
Someone I know said she was moving her kid into an off campus apartment in Charlottesville and "there was a ruckus a few blocks away but it didn't ruin our day." Really? WTF.
I feel like people aren't thinking about what they say in social media.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Aug 14, 2017 19:33:18 GMT
One of my best friends, someone I love and admired so much that I asked her to be in our wedding, is defending the Charlottesville marchers on Facebook. She's comparing the neo-Nazis who marched to Black Lives Matter, La Raza and other minority groups. She's excusing the Nazi rhetoric. She's spouting off about white oppression and PC culture and blah blah blah. I'm astounded. This is a woman who was in my wedding. Who I thought loved me. But how can she love me and my brown skin and then defend this awfulness? Ugh, that's horrible and I would be incredibly hurt (I am constantly dismayed at what I see and hear from people I know and I'm white - I can't imagine how much more it hurts when you are the target). I'm sorry. 
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Aug 14, 2017 19:35:52 GMT
I'm so sorry. I know too well your sadness, anger, and disappointment. I have been dealing with similar on my FB page. Friends whom I've known for over 40 years who are supporting the white supremacy marchers.... I've decided to quietly unfriend them and pretty much get them out of my life. They are not the same girls I went to high school with and their moral compasses are now so f***ed up that I just cannot be friends with them anymore. Several months ago I tried to discuss this with them and they got angry with me. It's a breaking point for me. I hope your friend will wise up and realize how horrible her beliefs are.
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Post by wellway on Aug 14, 2017 19:37:22 GMT
I'm so sorry, that has got to hurt. I would be furious and probably give her one chance to explain otherwise I would cut her loose, life is too short for friends who excuse Nazi rhetoric.
Have you posed that question to her?
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Post by flanz on Aug 14, 2017 19:48:31 GMT
This white woman would disown any "friend" behaving in such a way. I'm very fortunate not to have any in my own life. Very fortunate.
I'm very sorry for this hurt you are experiencing, but this is NOT a friend of yours. (((HUGS)))
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Post by epeanymous on Aug 14, 2017 19:50:38 GMT
I am sorry. That is awful.
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Post by busy on Aug 14, 2017 19:53:49 GMT
I’m so sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 19:55:01 GMT
That sucks. I've unfriended quite a few who showed themselves to be racist or homophobic by comments they made during the election. Some were family members, and those were the saddest for me.
I think people are confusing legal rights (yes the KKK has the legal right to March) with moral rights. I'd be saddened and disappointed in a friend who posted something like that, too.
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Post by pinklady on Aug 14, 2017 20:02:02 GMT
If I see any of that kind of bullshit on my Facebook feed, I will call it out in a heartbeat. I have no tolerance for that shit and I don't want anything to do with a person who defends that vile behavior.
I'll just post this quote, SILENCE IS CONSENT!
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Post by monklady123 on Aug 14, 2017 20:06:57 GMT
One of my best friends, someone I love and admired so much that I asked her to be in our wedding, is defending the Charlottesville marchers on Facebook. She's comparing the neo-Nazis who marched to Black Lives Matter, La Raza and other minority groups. She's excusing the Nazi rhetoric. She's spouting off about white oppression and PC culture and blah blah blah. I'm astounded. This is a woman who was in my wedding. Who I thought loved me. But how can she love me and my brown skin and then defend this awfulness? 
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Post by inkedup on Aug 14, 2017 20:11:04 GMT
We talked. It did not go well 😂
I'm honestly grateful for things like this. Better to know who someone really is.
And I'm sure there are a lot of people who are experiencing the same thing. It's crazy that anyone could defend Nazis - literal Nazis.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 20:12:07 GMT
I'm sorry inkedup that must really hurt finding out that your friend isn't who she makes herself out to be. I'm afraid if that was me I would confront her and tell her exactly what I thought of her and why, yes on Facebook. Make her answerable for her words. You have nothing to lose as you don't need friends like her. My jaw has dropped so many times that I've lost count when reading some of the comments made on media reports online. It's just so horrible that people have so much hate inside them.
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Post by littlemama on Aug 14, 2017 20:16:16 GMT
life is too short for friends who excuse Nazi rhetoric This might just need to go in my Twitter bio. (my Twitter, which only has one follower LOL)
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Post by flanz on Aug 14, 2017 20:18:12 GMT
We talked. It did not go well 😂 I'm honestly grateful for things like this. Better to know who someone really is. And I'm sure there are a lot of people who are experiencing the same thing. It's crazy that anyone could defend Nazis - literal Nazis. I'm sorry, inkedup.
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Post by Country Ham on Aug 14, 2017 20:36:27 GMT
I'm so sorry. I know too well your sadness, anger, and disappointment. I have been dealing with similar on my FB page. Friends whom I've known for over 40 years who are supporting the white supremacy marchers.... I've decided to quietly unfriend them and pretty much get them out of my life. They are not the same girls I went to high school with and their moral compasses are now so f***ed up that I just cannot be friends with them anymore. Several months ago I tried to discuss this with them and they got angry with me. It's a breaking point for me. I hope your friend will wise up and realize how horrible her beliefs are. Are they supporting the marchers in their right to march or are they supporting the message itself? I have a huge amount of people on my FB who are far right Trump supporting folks but I haven't seen anything posted on FB other then folks condemning racism. One of the things I am trying to figure out is when all these hate groups became one big group. I always thought the KKK, neo nazis, and white supremacists were all different groups with their own agendas. Now they seem to be all one big entity.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 20:50:59 GMT
I'm so sorry. I know too well your sadness, anger, and disappointment. I have been dealing with similar on my FB page. Friends whom I've known for over 40 years who are supporting the white supremacy marchers.... I've decided to quietly unfriend them and pretty much get them out of my life. They are not the same girls I went to high school with and their moral compasses are now so f***ed up that I just cannot be friends with them anymore. Several months ago I tried to discuss this with them and they got angry with me. It's a breaking point for me. I hope your friend will wise up and realize how horrible her beliefs are. Are they supporting the marchers in their right to march or are they supporting the message itself? I have a huge amount of people on my FB who are far right Trump supporting folks but I haven't seen anything posted on FB other then folks condemning racism. One of the things I am trying to figure out is when all these hate groups became one big group. I always thought the KKK, neo nazis, and white supremacists were all different groups with their own agendas. Now they seem to be all one big entity. From the SPLC... "White nationalist groups espouse white supremacist or white separatist ideologies, often focusing on the alleged inferiority of nonwhites. Groups listed in a variety of other categories - Ku Klux Klan, neo-Confederate, neo-Nazi, racist skinhead, and Christian Identity - could also be fairly described as white nationalist." IMO the one thing that binds these groups together is this country is inching toward becoming a non white majority. It already happened here in California in 2015. I think it's by 2040 this country will no longer be a white majority country. And these groups don't like it.
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Post by melanell on Aug 14, 2017 21:01:11 GMT
I'm so sorry, inkedup.  That's just awful and I can only imagine how much it must hurt.
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Post by elaine on Aug 14, 2017 21:02:24 GMT
(((Hugs)))
We've been having similar discussions at my house today, but unfortunately the person posting racist crap on FB in support of the white supremacists is my dh's sister.
It is hard to make the decision to disown family members. Especially since my boys don't/won't understand.
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Post by melanell on Aug 14, 2017 21:04:14 GMT
It's crazy that anyone could defend Nazis - literal Nazis. I agree. It blows my mind how anyone could support these people. I'm sorry your talk went badly. Though I am unfortunately not surprised. Save
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Post by pierogi on Aug 14, 2017 21:24:18 GMT
We talked. It did not go well 😂 I'm honestly grateful for things like this. Better to know who someone really is. And I'm sure there are a lot of people who are experiencing the same thing. It's crazy that anyone could defend Nazis - literal Nazis. I'm so sorry. Since Nov. 9th, nothing surprises me.
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Post by gar on Aug 14, 2017 21:24:31 GMT
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Post by hop2 on Aug 14, 2017 21:40:21 GMT
One of my best friends, someone I love and admired so much that I asked her to be in our wedding, is defending the Charlottesville marchers on Facebook. She's comparing the neo-Nazis who marched to Black Lives Matter, La Raza and other minority groups. She's excusing the Nazi rhetoric. She's spouting off about white oppression and PC culture and blah blah blah. I'm astounded. This is a woman who was in my wedding. Who I thought loved me. But how can she love me and my brown skin and then defend this awfulness? I'm sorry, that is incredibly hurtful. I'm not sure how anyone can defend those views. How does one defend a heil Hitler with a torch? I'm really sorry for you. Your post made me very angry for you. From your title I was expecting random crazies spouts my off and you saw it on FB, which is bad enough. Then I read your post. I've seen nothing at all but condemnation for it on my FB page. Even from my crazy relatives. So, I guess I've succeeded in a little safe bubble on my FB because it restricted to people I know. So for you to say it was your irl longtime friend it seems like more of a violation to you than some random person on the web, twitter etc. Your post literally made me feel ill. {{{hugs}}}
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Post by hop2 on Aug 14, 2017 21:41:35 GMT
(((Hugs))) We've been having similar discussions at my house today, but unfortunately the person posting racist crap on FB in support of the white supremacists is my dh's sister. It is hard to make the decision to disown family members. Especially since my boys don't/won't understand. OMG how horrible.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 14, 2017 21:47:33 GMT
I'm so sorry. I know too well your sadness, anger, and disappointment. I have been dealing with similar on my FB page. Friends whom I've known for over 40 years who are supporting the white supremacy marchers.... I've decided to quietly unfriend them and pretty much get them out of my life. They are not the same girls I went to high school with and their moral compasses are now so f***ed up that I just cannot be friends with them anymore. Several months ago I tried to discuss this with them and they got angry with me. It's a breaking point for me. I hope your friend will wise up and realize how horrible her beliefs are. Are they supporting the marchers in their right to march or are they supporting the message itself? I have a huge amount of people on my FB who are far right Trump supporting folks but I haven't seen anything posted on FB other then folks condemning racism. One of the things I am trying to figure out is when all these hate groups became one big group. I always thought the KKK, neo nazis, and white supremacists were all different groups with their own agendas. Now they seem to be all one big entity. the internet has its downsides. Connecting the crazies is one of them.
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Post by elaine on Aug 14, 2017 22:00:44 GMT
I'm so sorry. I know too well your sadness, anger, and disappointment. I have been dealing with similar on my FB page. Friends whom I've known for over 40 years who are supporting the white supremacy marchers.... I've decided to quietly unfriend them and pretty much get them out of my life. They are not the same girls I went to high school with and their moral compasses are now so f***ed up that I just cannot be friends with them anymore. Several months ago I tried to discuss this with them and they got angry with me. It's a breaking point for me. I hope your friend will wise up and realize how horrible her beliefs are. Are they supporting the marchers in their right to march or are they supporting the message itself? I have a huge amount of people on my FB who are far right Trump supporting folks but I haven't seen anything posted on FB other then folks condemning racism. One of the things I am trying to figure out is when all these hate groups became one big group. I always thought the KKK, neo nazis, and white supremacists were all different groups with their own agendas. Now they seem to be all one big entity. My family members and their friends are supporting the message too. One told my dh that if he didn't like the Confederate Flag, he could just close his eyes and not look at it. After they told him that "no one had an issue with the Confederate flag until Obama became president." The KKK, Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists all campaign against the same groups of people, and promote "white supremacy" and a master race. How do you see them as having different agendas? They all would be happy to "eliminate" my white Jewish self, along with my African American next-door neighbor.
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Post by RosieKat on Aug 14, 2017 22:25:01 GMT
Wow. That has to hurt incredibly. I don't think I could stay friends with someone like that - thinking of that adage "Once someone shows you who they really are, believe them." But I'm so sorry. As for elaine, I'm sorry for that, too. I am tempted to say I would also draw the line, but yes, it does get complicated when it is family, and as you said, your boys wouldn't understand, etc. I think at a minimum, I'd be hugely minimizing contact. But there's no good answer, is there?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 22:46:12 GMT
A dad publicly repudiated his son's participation in the Nazi rallies. "In the letter published in the Fargo (N.D.) Forum, father Pearce Tefft writes that he and his family "wish to loudly repudiate my son’s vile, hateful and racist rhetoric and actions." The father said he taught all of his children that all men and women are created equal. Evidently Peter has chosen to unlearn these lessons, much to my and his family’s heartbreak and distress. We have been silent up until now, but now we see that this was a mistake.
It was the silence of good people that allowed the Nazis to flourish the first time around, and it is the silence of good people that is allowing them to flourish now."" Amen. www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/14/father-denounces-son-charlottesville-rally/566437001/
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Post by SockMonkey on Aug 14, 2017 22:56:55 GMT
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Post by SockMonkey on Aug 14, 2017 22:59:03 GMT
I'm so sorry. I know too well your sadness, anger, and disappointment. I have been dealing with similar on my FB page. Friends whom I've known for over 40 years who are supporting the white supremacy marchers.... I've decided to quietly unfriend them and pretty much get them out of my life. They are not the same girls I went to high school with and their moral compasses are now so f***ed up that I just cannot be friends with them anymore. Several months ago I tried to discuss this with them and they got angry with me. It's a breaking point for me. I hope your friend will wise up and realize how horrible her beliefs are. Are they supporting the marchers in their right to march or are they supporting the message itself? I have a huge amount of people on my FB who are far right Trump supporting folks but I haven't seen anything posted on FB other then folks condemning racism. One of the things I am trying to figure out is when all these hate groups became one big group. I always thought the KKK, neo nazis, and white supremacists were all different groups with their own agendas. Now they seem to be all one big entity. The agenda of all of those groups is and has always been white ethno-purity and the subjugation of anyone who they do consider ethnically & racially "pure." This includes people of color, Jews, LGBTQ... etc.
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