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Post by elaine on Aug 16, 2017 17:17:06 GMT
Warning: do not click and watch if you might be offended. It is 22 minutes long.
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Post by pierogi on Aug 16, 2017 17:23:35 GMT
I was lucky to catch this when it aired, and I'm heartened to see it go viral. Vice hit it out of the park with their coverage of Charlottesville.
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Post by bc2ca on Aug 16, 2017 19:02:13 GMT
Thanks for sharing, elaine . I was out of the country last week and only caught bits & pieces of what went down in Charlottesville as it was happening. This definitely filled in a few blanks for me. ETA I'd love to see Trump watch this with the Kushners and explain his "some were fine people" assessment of the Friday night torch walk.
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Post by jayfab on Aug 16, 2017 20:02:54 GMT
I watched the vice video and posted it on Facebook. I also saw an interview with the reporter and she did say that she was very frightened at times. Now look what showed up on my Facebook feed today. The big tough dude with all that firepower strapped to his body is really a sniveling coward. Neo-Nazi Christopher Cantwell
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Post by linda~lou on Aug 16, 2017 20:57:05 GMT
Just watched nazi coward sniveling like a baby. So who's the snowflake? He threatened that more people will die and then goes into a complete meltdown cause there's a warrant out for his arrest. Unbelievable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 20:59:32 GMT
TFS. Very frightening to watch.
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Post by coffeetalk on Aug 16, 2017 21:04:18 GMT
Elle Reeve, the reporter on the video was just interviewed on MSNBC. A few of her points, the Alt-right will be ''rebranding'' focusing on aesthetics, looking like clean-cut, intellectual college students. Though social media they can raise $100,000 overnight. They will be dropping the swastikas and weeding out the ''white trash'' in order to appear main-stream. One had texted her last night and he was absolutely further emboldened by Trump's press conference.
Chilling.
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Post by Merge on Aug 16, 2017 21:15:12 GMT
I only got through 6 minutes and couldn't watch any more.
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Post by annie on Aug 16, 2017 21:15:19 GMT
My daughter and I watched this earlier. Makes me nauseous to know that people like this really exist. So glad this was filmed. I know too many people who want to pretend this isn't happening.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 16, 2017 21:16:06 GMT
Elle Reeve, the reporter on the video was just interviewed on MSNBC. A few of her points, the Alt-right will be ''rebranding'' focusing on aesthetics, looking like clean-cut, intellectual college students. Though social media they can raise $100,000 overnight. They will be dropping the swastikas and weeding out the ''white trash'' in order to appear main-stream. One had texted her last night and he was absolutely further emboldened by Trump's press conference. Chilling. I noticed that a lot of them had very clean cut hair (with very short sides and longer top) and were trying to appear like the boy next door.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Aug 16, 2017 21:28:39 GMT
That is truly terrifying. The goal of white supremacists and Nazis is to rid USA of all people who do not share their warped views.
They are going to continue to kill lgbtq, jews, blacks, and all others unlike them until they are stopped or until they are a majority in the USA.
That is why it is so appalling & dangerous that our president did not immediately & unequivocally denounce what they have done & what they stand for.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 22:08:56 GMT
I just posted the same video.
I knew it was bad. I knew it was REALLY bad. But I guess I just still had in my head that deep down they were a bunch of hateful, entitled blowhards who were all bark and no bite and as soon as they got slightly uncomfortable, they'd shut their traps and crawl back under their rocks. I'm not trying to ignore that it's real, I am just incredulous.
To hear people make actual threats of violence, and extermination, in 2017, in this country, is just beyond my comprehension. How can people think and act that way?
I highly recommend this, especially if you're like me and you haven't seen this first hand before. We need to be shocked.
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Post by elaine on Aug 16, 2017 22:13:22 GMT
And when we live in a country where the largest estimation of the percentage of Jewish Americans is 2.6% of the population, anyone who somehow believes that we want to, or will, "replace them" is delusional and too stupid to understand elementary school math.
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Post by Mary Kay Lady on Aug 16, 2017 22:26:11 GMT
Thanks for sharing that. It was scary to watch, but since I don't watch much news I was unaware of how volatile of a situation it was. It's sad and scary to watch. It's sad that this is the kind of world we've come to. It breaks my heart.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Aug 16, 2017 22:35:08 GMT
I feel nauseous...
I really don't understand how they equate 'peaceful protest' and his sniveling, crying self saying, "but we tried to follow all the rules, man" or his whiny "we're NOT violent" with the other statements like "we're trying to clear "them" from our streets and take our country back." (and take it back from who, exactly? Technically speaking, unless you're Native American, you came here from somewhere else, too-- it's not "your" country, it belongs to "ALL OF US." I don't know the words byheart, but I'm pretty sure there isn't anything the Founding Fathers wrote that specifically limits it to whites only. Unless I missed hearing that lecture in my middle school history class...?)
I mean,really- how do they suggest that they're going to do that, if not with violence? How do they THINK a torch-bearing crowd is going to be perceived by the public, besides with possible / probable violent intent?!? (okay, they were Tiki torches, but still- torches.) If they're trying to 'take their country back' through peaceful means, then they should be writing to their congressmen, not marching and carrying Nazi flags. So I don't believe their 'non-violent, peaceful' crap for a minute. Especially since he talked specifically about arming himself and working out at the gym in HOPES of needing to use those skills.
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Post by hollymolly on Aug 16, 2017 22:38:32 GMT
I know I should watch, but I'm too scared. I did two hard things today (personal, unrelated to this) and I've met my quota of things I can handle in one day. I will try when I'm feeling stronger. I know that it's important for me to see it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 22:49:35 GMT
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Post by scrapngranny on Aug 16, 2017 22:55:43 GMT
I am appalled that this is happening in our country in 2017. The video was bone chilling. How could anyone treat another human being like that? We need a nation wide resistance movement to make those snakes crawl back under their rocks. Trump has given racistism the green light.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 22:59:43 GMT
Elle Reeve, the reporter on the video was just interviewed on MSNBC. A few of her points, the Alt-right will be ''rebranding'' focusing on aesthetics, looking like clean-cut, intellectual college students. Though social media they can raise $100,000 overnight. They will be dropping the swastikas and weeding out the ''white trash'' in order to appear main-stream. One had texted her last night and he was absolutely further emboldened by Trump's press conference. Chilling. I noticed that a lot of them had very clean cut hair (with very short sides and longer top) and were trying to appear like the boy next door. This makes interesting reading as to how they recruit their followers and yes, you've hit the nail right on the head that they look " like the boy next door" It was published two months ago and interestingly Matt Heimbach who was featured in the video elaine posted was banned from entering the UK in 2015 LINKLINK
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Aug 16, 2017 23:39:29 GMT
okay, I made it all the way to the end, but I feel dirty now.
I am just appalled that he told her how he saw the car hitting the crowd as THEIR fault and the car plowing into the crowd was JUSTIFIED because "someone in the crowd hit the guy's car and he felt threatened"... and the crowd wouldn't let him back up to leave. He said the the guy felt threatened, and the only way he could get out of the crowd was to hit the gas, so in his opinion that poor woman's death was justified.
That someone could talk like that is positively reprehensible. To have that viewpoint about another human being is - just - I can't even come up with words for how absolutely foreign that type of worldview is... it makes me sad.
ETA:
Sad for our species. Our hope of becoming something more than a petty animal that squabbles and kills its own members over who has what-- or doesn't have what-- ...man.... I don't even have the words to express what I'm feeling about this. If there's intelligent alien life out in the universe, they probably don't WANT to come here. I know I wouldn't.
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Post by scrapsotime on Aug 17, 2017 0:27:03 GMT
I noticed that a lot of them had very clean cut hair (with very short sides and longer top) and were trying to appear like the boy next door. This makes interesting reading as to how they recruit their followers and yes, you've hit the nail right on the head that they look " like the boy next door" It was published two months ago and interestingly Matt Heimbach who was featured in the video elaine posted was banned from entering the UK in 2015 LINKLINKI don't know how well that look is going to work for them because they just reminded of the Hitler Youth with their clean cut matchy look.
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Post by keesha on Aug 17, 2017 0:29:24 GMT
I enjoyed a news free weekend at the beach. I made myself watch this ... speechless. Thank you Elaine for posting (says with tears in eyes and anger).
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Post by casii on Aug 17, 2017 17:24:35 GMT
I'm an emotional eater. I just mainlined 10 Nutter Butters only because it's unacceptable for me to binge drink at lunch.
Wow, such ugliness, hate and evil. She's a brave woman. I was scared for her when she got in that van. And those terror, fear and shock of those from the car attack made me cry.
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Post by jayfab on Aug 18, 2017 1:21:10 GMT
More video evidence of protesters in the vice video being Trump supporters. This supporter actually was filmed pushing a protester at a Trump rally (this rally was in the news quite a bit because of the shoving and Trumps words) and was recruiting others attending to the white nationalist cause. Very interesting read. Matthew Heimbach
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Post by PLurker on Aug 18, 2017 1:33:18 GMT
I enjoyed a news free weekend at the beach. I made myself watch this ... speechless. Thank you Elaine for posting (says with tears in eyes and anger). I feel you, as I posted on another thread, I'm just home from this week in little cell/data zone. I say let's go back.
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Post by elaine on Aug 18, 2017 1:50:43 GMT
I'm an emotional eater. I just mainlined 10 Nutter Butters only because it's unacceptable for me to binge drink at lunch. Wow, such ugliness, hate and evil. She's a brave woman. I was scared for her when she got in that van. And those terror, fear and shock of those from the car attack made me cry. Yeah, it hasn't been a great several days for me alcohol-wise at night after the kids are asleep. I'm so sad and angry.
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