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Post by mcscrapper on Aug 24, 2017 14:17:51 GMT
Saw this video on Today and was just SHOCKED that this type of behavior is going on!!! Who does this shit? girls forced into splits
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Post by Katie on Aug 24, 2017 14:18:46 GMT
I can't bring myself to watch the video.
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Post by mom on Aug 24, 2017 14:19:03 GMT
I saw this on Facebook and then again on GMA.
Seriously - who thinks this is ok? I could barely watch the video. I cannot imagine witnessing this and not saying something right then and there.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 24, 2017 14:22:35 GMT
The link just st bring me to this thread - no video to watch
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Aug 24, 2017 14:29:56 GMT
I just looked this up.
Holy shit!
That's criminal & I think charges should be brought. I would want to destroy anyone who had a hand in doing that to my kid.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 14:32:11 GMT
I have no words. That is horrific.
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Post by bianca42 on Aug 24, 2017 14:41:28 GMT
I take karate with my boys and we stretch, with the ultimate goal of splits (and higher kicks). It gets painful as you get close to the edge of what you can do...I can't even imagine the pain of being forced beyond what your body is ready to do. That is absolutely horrible!
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Post by mcscrapper on Aug 24, 2017 14:47:29 GMT
What I also find disturbing is the other girls doing the holding and pushing. It is shocking that kids these days just think it is ok to behave like this. I know it isn't exactly the same but it is in the same vein as the boys watching that man drown and making fun of him. Kids have ZERO value for human life anymore. I don't know if they just don't have connection d/t all of the cell phone and social media use. We didn't have those things when we were kids and we took care of one another. Kids just don't seem to have that these days and it makes me very very sad for this generation. Just like everything else in their lives, people are "replaceable" to this generation. So sad!
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Post by brina on Aug 24, 2017 14:48:47 GMT
isn't there a refupea whose daughter is a rythmic gymnast? I seem to remember her talking about this years ago.
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Post by epeanymous on Aug 24, 2017 14:49:55 GMT
What I also find disturbing is the other girls doing the holding and pushing. It is shocking that kids these days just think it is ok to behave like this. I know it isn't exactly the same but it is in the same vein as the boys watching that man drown and making fun of him. Kids have ZERO value for human life anymore. I don't know if they just don't have connection d/t all of the cell phone and social media use. We didn't have those things when we were kids and we took care of one another. Kids just don't seem to have that these days and it makes me very very sad for this generation. Just like everything else in their lives, people are "replaceable" to this generation. So sad! I actually remember an enormous amount of cruelty among kids when I was growing up, as well as much more of a "suck it up" attitude from adults than is acceptable now. I don't think kids today are somehow worse. Anyhow, no one should be forced into splits. Ouch.
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Post by paigepea on Aug 24, 2017 14:53:58 GMT
What I also find disturbing is the other girls doing the holding and pushing. It is shocking that kids these days just think it is ok to behave like this. I know it isn't exactly the same but it is in the same vein as the boys watching that man drown and making fun of him. Kids have ZERO value for human life anymore. I don't know if they just don't have connection d/t all of the cell phone and social media use. We didn't have those things when we were kids and we took care of one another. Kids just don't seem to have that these days and it makes me very very sad for this generation. Just like everything else in their lives, people are "replaceable" to this generation. So sad! I thini it is hard for kids to stand up to adults and say no. I'm sure these kids were told to do what they were doing. It is the adult's fault. How are we supposed to expect our kids to treat each other if the adults they are supposed to use as role models act this way.
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Post by myshelly on Aug 24, 2017 14:56:05 GMT
What I also find disturbing is the other girls doing the holding and pushing. It is shocking that kids these days just think it is ok to behave like this. I know it isn't exactly the same but it is in the same vein as the boys watching that man drown and making fun of him. Kids have ZERO value for human life anymore. I don't know if they just don't have connection d/t all of the cell phone and social media use. We didn't have those things when we were kids and we took care of one another. Kids just don't seem to have that these days and it makes me very very sad for this generation. Just like everything else in their lives, people are "replaceable" to this generation. So sad! I really don't think that's the same here. These girls are doing it because an adult in a position of authority is telling them to. And they likely had it done to them when they joined the team, so they have been conditioned by the adults in charge to believe it's normal. The "kids these days" argument is bullshit here. These adults are the problem and need to be held accountable.
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Post by myshelly on Aug 24, 2017 14:58:52 GMT
What I also find disturbing is the other girls doing the holding and pushing. It is shocking that kids these days just think it is ok to behave like this. I know it isn't exactly the same but it is in the same vein as the boys watching that man drown and making fun of him. Kids have ZERO value for human life anymore. I don't know if they just don't have connection d/t all of the cell phone and social media use. We didn't have those things when we were kids and we took care of one another. Kids just don't seem to have that these days and it makes me very very sad for this generation. Just like everything else in their lives, people are "replaceable" to this generation. So sad! I actually remember an enormous amount of cruelty among kids when I was growing up, as well as much more of a "suck it up" attitude from adults than is acceptable now. I don't think kids today are somehow worse. Anyhow, no one should be forced into splits. Ouch. I completely agree with this. "Kids these days" are no different. mcscrapper, you are older now. YOU are different. Your feelings, thoughts, emotions, values have changed. You perceive kids as different because you have changed.
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Post by mcscrapper on Aug 24, 2017 15:04:55 GMT
I thini it is hard for kids to stand up to adults and say no. I'm sure these kids were told to do what they were doing. It is the adult's fault. How are we supposed to expect our kids to treat each other if the adults they are supposed to use as role models act this way. I agree. It is absolutely the adult's fault but it makes me sad that kids don't feel like they have a voice to say NO to things like this. SaveSave
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Post by janskylar on Aug 24, 2017 15:06:02 GMT
There have always been cruel kids. It must be nice to not have been aware of that while growing up.
That said, I agree that this is the fault of the adult in charge.
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Post by mom on Aug 24, 2017 15:07:21 GMT
What I also find disturbing is the other girls doing the holding and pushing. It is shocking that kids these days just think it is ok to behave like this. I know it isn't exactly the same but it is in the same vein as the boys watching that man drown and making fun of him. Kids have ZERO value for human life anymore. I don't know if they just don't have connection d/t all of the cell phone and social media use. We didn't have those things when we were kids and we took care of one another. Kids just don't seem to have that these days and it makes me very very sad for this generation. Just like everything else in their lives, people are "replaceable" to this generation. So sad! I really don't think that's the same here. These girls are doing it because an adult in a position of authority is telling them to. And they likely had it done to them when they joined the team, so they have been conditioned by the adults in charge to believe it's normal. The "kids these days" argument is bullshit here. These adults are the problem and need to be held accountable. I agree. This is all on the adults here. Using the argument of 'Kids these days' is completely bullshit.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Aug 24, 2017 15:08:37 GMT
Link to news article with video: www.9news.com/news/local/investigations/videos-show-east-high-cheerleaders-repeatedly-forced-into-splits-1/466845236There's no question the coach and any assistant coach present should be fired. Personally, I would contact the police about assault charges if this was my child. Any administrator who knew about this and did not take immediate action should also be fired. It happened in JUNE. The administration knew about it in JUNE. He was placed on leave this week only after the parents went to the news. Totally unacceptable. ETA - I don't know if the women/girls involved were students or assistant coaches. The news article mentioned at least one assistant coach also placed on leave - I think that might be the front woman. Several of the girls involved took videos to show their parents - there seems to be way more evidence of girls trying to help each other than behaving badly (at least from what's been reported so far).
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Post by librarylady on Aug 24, 2017 15:10:14 GMT
I thini it is hard for kids to stand up to adults and say no. I'm sure these kids were told to do what they were doing. It is the adult's fault. How are we supposed to expect our kids to treat each other if the adults they are supposed to use as role models act this way. I agree. It is absolutely the adult's fault but it makes me sad that kids don't feel like they have a voice to say NO to things like this. SaveSaveI wonder if I were in the situation, and 15 years old, would I have said to the teacher/coach "No." I think I would have done what the adult in charge said to do. I also think I'd have quit the team. I think GMA said the coach is on leave while it is investigated. Pretty shocking that it happened, IMO.
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Post by mallie on Aug 24, 2017 15:12:24 GMT
What I also find disturbing is the other girls doing the holding and pushing. It is shocking that kids these days just think it is ok to behave like this. I know it isn't exactly the same but it is in the same vein as the boys watching that man drown and making fun of him. Kids have ZERO value for human life anymore. I don't know if they just don't have connection d/t all of the cell phone and social media use. We didn't have those things when we were kids and we took care of one another. Kids just don't seem to have that these days and it makes me very very sad for this generation. Just like everything else in their lives, people are "replaceable" to this generation. So sad! It is not new. The Miligram experiment date from 1961 and showed how people are willing to hurt others as long as an authority figure tells them to do so. It's human nature in some people -- they are followers and will do what they are told. It's human nature in some people also, to be sadistic. Again, none of this was new. In my day, there were quite a few kids who most certainly did NOT take care of each other.
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Post by mcscrapper on Aug 24, 2017 15:21:14 GMT
ETA - I don't know if the women/girls involved were students or assistant coaches. The news article mentioned at least one assistant coach also placed on leave - I think that might be the front woman. Several of the girls involved took videos to show their parents - there seems to be way more evidence of girls trying to help each other than behaving badly (at least from what's been reported so far). After reading more on the story, it does appear the other girls are at least trying to help end it. SaveSave
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Post by Grom Pea on Aug 24, 2017 15:32:13 GMT
Whatever happened to stretching and practicing at home until you could do it? Forcing someone before they're ready sounds like recipe for injury. I might be biased because I always found splits pretty easy, but couldn't they have had everyone stretch and practice this at home versus forcing a split? I'm also not sure if everyone can achieve a split through practice or not, but if it doesn't come naturally to some people, maybe they should not be cheerleaders or dancers, or they should have a different position, our role.
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Post by annabella on Aug 24, 2017 15:34:46 GMT
Is this norm with cheerleaders? Is this how they all learn how to do splits? Watching that coach hold down a child was horrific.
After my fitness class we always sit on the floor almost Indian style but with our feet touching pressed up against each other. I've noticed men can't do this and their knees are up while most women have their knees on the floor. I've wondered is this because most women took gymnastics as a child and thus our bodies were made flexible to do this?
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Post by bbkeef on Aug 24, 2017 15:56:55 GMT
I watched the video this morning and that is straight up assault. I was cringing because I thought they were going to break her hip or something else! I was a danceline girl and NO ONE was ever forced to go beyond their ability. Those of us that could do splits are either just naturally flexible or practiced practiced practiced. That was really hard to watch-especially the helpers that were laughing (you can tell, even though their faces are blurred out).
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Post by Skellinton on Aug 24, 2017 16:00:39 GMT
I can't watch the video, just reading about this makes my skin crawl and my stomach hurt, but I hope that criminal charges are brought against the adults. Who was videoing this?
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Post by tiffanyr on Aug 24, 2017 16:01:26 GMT
I can't bring myself to watch the video!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 17:12:34 GMT
What I also find disturbing is the other girls doing the holding and pushing. It is shocking that kids these days just think it is ok to behave like this. I know it isn't exactly the same but it is in the same vein as the boys watching that man drown and making fun of him. Kids have ZERO value for human life anymore. I don't know if they just don't have connection d/t all of the cell phone and social media use. We didn't have those things when we were kids and we took care of one another. Kids just don't seem to have that these days and it makes me very very sad for this generation. Just like everything else in their lives, people are "replaceable" to this generation. So sad! The kids are doing what the coach is doing. Personally, I cannot watch the video. I am pea-livid just reading the headlines. God help the person if this was ever done to my child. ^^^ THIS a gazillion times over. (BTW my "this" emoji has disappeared - does anyone know how to get it back?)
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Post by annabella on Aug 24, 2017 17:33:27 GMT
^^^ THIS a gazillion times over. (BTW my "this" emoji has disappeared - does anyone know how to get it back?)
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Post by used2scrap on Aug 24, 2017 17:45:32 GMT
Horrific, I wonder how long this practice has been going on! At least someone recorded it and got the video out.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Aug 24, 2017 18:13:12 GMT
What I also find disturbing is the other girls doing the holding and pushing. It is shocking that kids these days just think it is ok to behave like this. I know it isn't exactly the same but it is in the same vein as the boys watching that man drown and making fun of him. Kids have ZERO value for human life anymore. I don't know if they just don't have connection d/t all of the cell phone and social media use. We didn't have those things when we were kids and we took care of one another. Kids just don't seem to have that these days and it makes me very very sad for this generation. Just like everything else in their lives, people are "replaceable" to this generation. So sad! I really don't think that's the same here. These girls are doing it because an adult in a position of authority is telling them to. And they likely had it done to them when they joined the team, so they have been conditioned by the adults in charge to believe it's normal. The "kids these days" argument is bullshit here. These adults are the problem and need to be held accountable. I saw this on GMA this morning and I agree.
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Post by freebird on Aug 24, 2017 18:33:31 GMT
I think we need to remind our kids that it's ALWAYS OK to say no when it comes to their body and how they are feeling. I don't blame those other kids at all, they don't know any better, they've been told to do what adults tell them to do, and it was probably done to them.
I liken this to rape. Once she says no and please stop, then they should stop. Period. And regardless if she even says yes, she's 13, she's not old enough to make that decision about her body. The answer is still no.
I understand the need to stretch your body but this should be done gently over time, not on some weekend cheer camp ffs.
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