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Post by merry27 on Sept 1, 2017 19:21:55 GMT
We really need to fence in an area for our pet our HOA only allows a certain type of fence and it is very expensive. We are looking into an electric fence but I think it sounds kind of harsh. Anyone have experience with this?
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Post by Darcy Collins on Sept 1, 2017 19:30:16 GMT
All of our neighbors use them as our HOA doesn't allow privacy fences. My friend was hesitant at first, but after her dog escaped the yard, she finally bit the bullet. She said it wasn't nearly as bad as she feared. They put up little flags to train the dog where the wire is, so they don't actually have to be shocked to learn the boundary. They learn quickly and are now safely in the yard. You do have to check the batteries regularly. One neighbor was convinced their dog would never leave as he was used to the fence- I don't know how they know the battery is low, but they know.
When we were researching it, I also learned you have to be careful about which breed dog you have as some are not safe to rely on - I'm pretty sure Great Pyrennes are included as that was the dog we were considering - the combination of their size and their extremely strong instincts will have them blowing through them to protect their territory.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 19:42:46 GMT
We really need to fence in an area for our pet our HOA only allows a certain type of fence and it is very expensive. We are looking into an electric fence but I think it sounds kind of harsh. Anyone have experience with this? My son used one for awhile. The pro is, you don't have a visible fence ruining a landscape. The cons are: You WILL need to spend some time training the dog in where the boundaries are. It comes with some flags that act as visual markers but it still takes active training on your part. Once a dog learns he can race through the barrier with minimal pain it won't be a deterrent. The signal is just a couple of feet on either side of the line. How long does it take your dog to run 4-5 ft? This is one reason my son stopped using it and went to more traditional fencing. His dog learned he could just race through it. Dogs with a high prey drive learn pretty quickly they can just run it.
It doesn't keep other animals out of your yard so stray dogs can still have access to your pet. This was the other reason son got rid of it. |
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Post by used2scrap on Sept 1, 2017 19:56:59 GMT
Another con, even if a dog will run out (chasing a rabbit or squirrel perhaps), they often won't come back in.
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Post by gale w on Sept 1, 2017 20:01:30 GMT
We have one. We got it when our dog was a puppy-maybe 12 weeks old. We trained her on it and she was very quick to learn. She only tried to get out once or twice and that was at the beginning of her training. One time she did get over it when we had a kitten dropped off and we were trying to catch it. She got caught up in the excitement and ran over the line. For 5 yrs it worked perfectly. Until it didn't. One day we couldn't find her. Turns out she ran over the line (probably chasing a rabbit or something) and got to the nearby highway and got hit by a vehicle. Thankfully she was still alive and after about a week at the vet with an IV, she recovered. She had a small chip on one knee and a lot of road rash and bruising but otherwise was miraculously okay. She still has arthritis from it. After that I never trusted the underground fence again. She is now in a fenced in yard and we let only let her into the other part of the yard (we have 10 acres so we like to let her out to explore sometimes) if we're out there watching her carefully. She's never tried to go over it since but I won't ever trust it again. Attachments:
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Post by AmandaA on Sept 1, 2017 20:03:09 GMT
Another con, even if a dog will run out (chasing a rabbit or squirrel perhaps), they often won't come back in. When we had it with our first Newfie, we woke up to him barking and carrying on early one morning... he had gone through the fence (first and what would be the only time). And was running back and forth hysterically and barking because he wanted back in! Probably not the usual response to it, but he realized he liked it better "on the inside" |
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Post by nicole2112 on Sept 1, 2017 20:03:38 GMT
Once a dog learns he can race through the barrier with minimal pain it won't be a deterrent. The signal is just a couple of feet on either side of the line. How long does it take your dog to run 4-5 ft? This is one reason my son stopped using it and went to more traditional fencing. His dog learned he could just race through it. Dogs with a high prey drive learn pretty quickly they can just run it. This. My in-laws have one and their golden retriever wants that deer it sees more than it cares about the temporary neck pain it experiences while running through the shock zone. It runs after the deer and then won't come home because it doesn't want to get the shock again. |
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Post by Kerri W on Sept 1, 2017 20:06:56 GMT
We have only had our fence for a few months so I can't speak about it longterm. Our puppies (8 mo Jack Russell and 14 mo Lab) respect the fence and only had to be "statically corrected" once during training. Ours starts beeping and sending the correction when they are 5-10 feet away from the fence. The correction increases as they get closer. If they get out it continues to correct until they come back into the fence. I think it stops after 20 seconds or something like that.
Things that DH really researched were a system that doesn't stop once they're outside the boundaries and one that is good for different elevations. Our yard is gently rolling and many fences have to be relatively flat to work effectively.
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Post by megop on Sept 1, 2017 20:58:08 GMT
Training is key. If you don't do the training or aren't willing, then don't go to the expense.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Sept 1, 2017 21:14:09 GMT
I had a "brilliant" co-worker who had an invisible fence for her dog. Well she didn't think she needed to spay her dog as her dog couldn't get out. A randy male dog came into the yard and, well, months later puppies were born. Her dog never did get out of the invisible fence, but yeah they had puppies as a neighbour's dog didn't have a collar preventing him from getting in. All the breeders I spoke to when I was getting my dog said they wouldn't sell to us if we didn't have a chain-link or wooden fence. We got a chain-link fence in the back yard.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 1, 2017 22:33:24 GMT
We have Invisible Fence because a traditional fence was impractical for the size of our yard. The trainers came out a couple times to work with our three (at the time) dogs. The Jack Russell was the toughest nut to crack and his level had to be bumped up a couple times so he would stay in the yard. After that, it was enough of a deterrent to keep him in. You have to be diligent with the training. One of our labs can definitely tell when the batteries get low on the collar. I'm not even bothering with getting a collar for our 5 lb poodle. We have big hawks that live in the woods behind our house and I don't think it's safe for her to be outside alone even inside the fenced area so I always go out with her or have her on a leash.
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Post by likescarrots on Sept 1, 2017 22:41:07 GMT
Yes, if you train them right they won't need to be shocked to learn. The machine collar should beep and they will recognize that as 'don't go any further'. Honestly after a year or so my parents didn't even have to turn the fence on anymore, but our dog was a german shepherd so very smart.
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Post by snowsilver on Sept 1, 2017 22:41:22 GMT
All of our neighbors use them as our HOA doesn't allow privacy fences. My friend was hesitant at first, but after her dog escaped the yard, she finally bit the bullet. She said it wasn't nearly as bad as she feared. They put up little flags to train the dog where the wire is, so they don't actually have to be shocked to learn the boundary. They learn quickly and are now safely in the yard. You do have to check the batteries regularly. One neighbor was convinced their dog would never leave as he was used to the fence- I don't know how they know the battery is low, but they know. When we were researching it, I also learned you have to be careful about which breed dog you have as some are not safe to rely on - I'm pretty sure Great Pyrennes are included as that was the dog we were considering - the combination of their size and their extremely strong instincts will have them blowing through them to protect their territory. The breed of dog absolutely makes a difference. We had a Great Pyr and were told we must have a fence or the dog would not stay on the property no matter how carefully trained. It simply is not in the nature of most of the great mountain dogs to sit tamely on the property. We thought we were smarter than the breeder. Since we got our dog as a puppy, we thought we could use the electronic fence. It worked just fine. We were patting ourselves on the back. Until almost the exact day he turned one-year old. That day he went though the fence and it never held him again. He scoffed at it. With his power and all the fur around his neck, it was less than a mosquito bite to him. Dismal failure. Breeder--plus 1. Stupid know-it-all us--0! |
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Post by gracieplusthree on Sept 1, 2017 23:25:49 GMT
we have a wireless electric fence for my sons Britany and it works brilliantly. and even though she has gotten out when her battery was down, when it's working she does NOT run through it,maybe some would,but she doesn't. btw it has a little light on the collar that flashes when the battery is low, it has died on us a couple times and us not know but she sure did LOL< her being out of the yard is how we knew, so yeah someone would want to have a good habit of checking the collar--like at feeding time, shrug,it just got by us a couple times---we live on a dairy farm so she wasnt pestering a neighborhood of people or anything,just that she could get in the road and we definitely don't want that..
anyway, ours is the one from walmart,petsafe guardian I think is the name.I got it because we wanted to be able to easily pick up batteries as they also carry those.also we never used the flags,I walked her around and let her hear the sound it makes as a warning,but really even with the flags she would have had to feel the shock to learn, I think all dogs would. I held it and felt it myself,it felt like really strong static shock,but is adjustable. as far as Iknow she has only been shocked once,that first time and once again when my son was working on his truck and she took a running dash and jumped up in the truck not knowing(or not caring) that it was out of her boundary and it got her
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Post by lancermom on Sept 1, 2017 23:39:51 GMT
We have the wireless brand from Home Depot. We did the training. He tried once or twice and that was it. We now have the shock turned off and just the sound on. He respects it and stays home.
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Post by gale w on Sept 1, 2017 23:40:18 GMT
Until our dog escaped over the fence I would have bet money that she never would.
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Post by tuva42 on Sept 1, 2017 23:40:21 GMT
What ever you do, DON'T PUT IT IN THE FRONT YARD!!! Nothing more unnerving than to be walking in the neighborhood when a dog come racing up to the sidewalk, barking as if he is going to eat you up. So frustrating, when you have no way of knowing if there is an electric fence or not, whether the dog will obey it or not. It's even worse when you are walking your own dog on a leash.
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Post by gale w on Sept 1, 2017 23:42:02 GMT
What ever you do, DON'T PUT IT IN THE FRONT YARD!!! Nothing more unnerving than to be walking in the neighborhood when a dog come racing up to the sidewalk, barking as if he is going to eat you up. So frustrating, when you have no way of knowing if there is an electric fence or not, whether the dog will obey it or not. It's even worse when you are walking your own dog on a leash. We put ours about 30 feet from the edge of the yard for this very reason. |
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Post by Peamac on Sept 2, 2017 0:27:32 GMT
The big dogs down the street don't seem controlled by their electronic fence, even with their owner yelling at them to stop. They've chased DH as well as my dog and I when we're out walking on the opposite side of the street.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 2, 2017 0:35:14 GMT
What ever you do, DON'T PUT IT IN THE FRONT YARD!!! Nothing more unnerving than to be walking in the neighborhood when a dog come racing up to the sidewalk, barking as if he is going to eat you up. So frustrating, when you have no way of knowing if there is an electric fence or not, whether the dog will obey it or not. It's even worse when you are walking your own dog on a leash. A lot of houses in our neighborhood have it, and everybody that does has a sign posted in the front yard that anybody walking by can see. |
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Post by RosieKat on Sept 2, 2017 0:46:18 GMT
Once a dog learns he can race through the barrier with minimal pain it won't be a deterrent. The signal is just a couple of feet on either side of the line. How long does it take your dog to run 4-5 ft? This. We installed one as a supplement to our regular wood privacy fence. Our dog found that she could climb the wooden fence to get out, so we hoped that this would help. We did do the training, although we did it ourselves so it might have been imperfect. But yes, once she figured out that it just took her a couple of moments of discomfort for FREEDOM! it was a lost cause. I think for docile dogs who don't have a huge drive to get out of the yard, they can be fine. But if the dog is any kind of hunter, bored with their own space, loves to see new people, etc. - they're useless. |
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Post by cmpeter on Sept 2, 2017 3:26:16 GMT
It worked very well for our Dalmatian, she never attempted to cross it. The sounds were enough for her. My neighbor's golden doodle and my sisters Australian Sheppard just run right thru them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 6:00:44 GMT
They have a system that does not need the wired in the ground. And you can set for however far you want the dog to go.
My neighbors have it.
Their dogs are getting use to it. One is a golden lab and the other an an american staffordshire terrorist.
I am scared that the day the dogs decide to eat me rather than obey their collars is coming( soon).
I have my phone in my hand ready to dial 911 every time I pass their house. I live at the end of the road, so there is no other way around their house.
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Post by FurryP on Sept 2, 2017 7:36:42 GMT
I love my dogs too much to ever trust an invisible fence. All it takes is one time for it not to work, for them to not come back, be lost, or have something else happen to them. I am too paranoid for an invisible fence.
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Post by Patter on Sept 2, 2017 11:02:39 GMT
Until our dog escaped over the fence I would have bet money that she never would. It seems most of our neighbors here have the invisible fence, and as dog owners we would never, ever have one. We do not like them at all. I bet 4x a week or more, people are posting on the neighborhood FB page that their dog got out of the invisible fence. Also, I walk/jog my boys every morning so I see the lose dogs. I have had dogs charge me in their front yards--some stop at their line some go through. I was terribly scared one time a dog charged us and the owner came running out. Thankfully they were home and saw what happened. Also, you can't stop a lose dog or animal coming into your yard that could attack YOUR dog. We do not like them at all but I also don't like privacy fencing. We do wrought iron and love it. Looks beautiful and keeps my boys safe. |
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Post by Patter on Sept 2, 2017 11:04:45 GMT
What ever you do, DON'T PUT IT IN THE FRONT YARD!!! Nothing more unnerving than to be walking in the neighborhood when a dog come racing up to the sidewalk, barking as if he is going to eat you up. So frustrating, when you have no way of knowing if there is an electric fence or not, whether the dog will obey it or not. It's even worse when you are walking your own dog on a leash. A lot of houses in our neighborhood have it, and everybody that does has a sign posted in the front yard that anybody walking by can see. People have those signs here too but they are usually hard to see. They need to make the darn things bigger. I always see the dog charging before I ever see a sign. I have lived here long enough to know though and most of the dogs know us now but still VERY unnerving in the beginning. |
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Post by cindosha on Sept 2, 2017 11:49:18 GMT
We have used one for years. Our dog got used to his borders and has never tried to go beyond the borderline. In fact, if we take off his collar and try to walk him out of the yard past one of his borderlines he wil dig his heels in and NOT go past that border.
Funny story, we had a thunderstorm one night and heard a huge crack of thunder in our backyard at three in the morning. The next day I got up and my dog was out in the yard and was acting very funny by one of the trees on the edge of our property. I went out there and looked at the tree and found that it had been hit by lightning and blew out a hole in the ground near the tree. At that point I realized that when the lightning hit the ground, it blew apart the wire for the electric fence. Later that day I noticed in our garage that there was a black scorch mark on the garage wall where the control box for the electric fence had been sitting. The box wasn't there. It had been blown off the wall to the other side of the garage. From where the lightning hit the tree to our garage is probably 100 yards. That was crazy scary.
Cindy
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Post by smasonnc on Sept 2, 2017 12:34:37 GMT
poor dog. That's not a very not ce thing to say.  Anybody have any luck with huskies and an electric fence? |
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Post by paperamy on Sept 2, 2017 15:06:36 GMT
Personally, I would never trust an electric fence. Even if it keeps your dog in the yard, it does not keep other dogs out of the yard.
And without the fence, your dog can appear that it is not contained. A dog was shot by police in my town because it was tied up and the officer in the next yard got too close to the dog, and "feared for his life." I don't trust police or any person when it comes to my dogs.
We have a 6 foot tall wooden fence where the gates can only be opened from the inside and our dogs are only outside when one of us is home. I know this fence doesn't completely protect them from people who could climb the fence, but they are safe from stray or loose dogs.
If your area has a problem with stray dogs or even dogs that wander, I would advise against the invisible fence. Our fence was pretty expensive to have installed and our yard is quite large, but I'd pay it again for their safety.
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Post by tuva42 on Sept 2, 2017 19:53:39 GMT
What ever you do, DON'T PUT IT IN THE FRONT YARD!!! Nothing more unnerving than to be walking in the neighborhood when a dog come racing up to the sidewalk, barking as if he is going to eat you up. So frustrating, when you have no way of knowing if there is an electric fence or not, whether the dog will obey it or not. It's even worse when you are walking your own dog on a leash. A lot of houses in our neighborhood have it, and everybody that does has a sign posted in the front yard that anybody walking by can see. Honestly, a sign doesn't stop a dog from racing across the yard to you, barking aggressively and setting your dog off. It makes neighborhood walks really uncomfortable. Why cant they just use their backyard? |
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