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Post by sunny1016 on Sept 12, 2017 0:47:57 GMT
Hi, I have been out of scrapping for awhile as far as machines go and I am having a tough time deciding which way to go as far as a new machine. I have the original cricut and the Quickutz Silhouette. I have about 10 cartridges from the cricut and over 200 designs in my Silhouette library. I have only done srictly cartridges with the Cricut, not even sure if I am able to do anything more??? I am trying to decide between the Cameo 3 and the Cricut air 2. My main use would be for scrapping or making cards. Maybe an occasional craft. (I have made money holders and small gift boxes with the Silhouette-also window deco with vinyl) I really would like to not have to hook it up to my computer, that is the main reason I don't use my machines. I also liked that you can take pictures on the Cameo with your phone and use them. Not sure how, but I know I saw that! Can you do something similiar with the Cricut? Like see an image online and cut it out? I still have an $82 credit with Silhouette from when I originally purchased it from QVC! lol I really like the designs they have, does Cricut now have something like that or are they still all cartridge based? Would I be able to use my Silhouette designs with a Cricut? I thought I was sure I was going with the Cameo, but I have been looking on Youtube and everyone seems to choose the Cricut. But yet I can't seem to find a video that shows all the features each have. If anyone has ANY input I would appreciate it. Even biased opinions! **Update- Just wanted to say I ended up buying the Cameo 3 and I love it so much!! I wasn't sure if it would feel so different from my original but it really does! It is way quicker- my old one would pause every few seconds and also a lot quieter which I wasn't expecting. The bluetooth can be a little finicky but I think I got it down. I haven't really paper crafted too much in recent years and it reminded me of how much I miss it. I can't stop playing with it. I am still learning a lot but I am glad I made the choice I did! Thanks everyone for the help and info.
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Post by ellewood on Sept 12, 2017 0:56:52 GMT
I seem to remember a thread about this a while back and the peas came down on the side of the cameo, but I could be biased because that's what I have and I like it!
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Post by sunny1016 on Sept 12, 2017 1:02:06 GMT
Darn I swear I tried searching first! lol And see I just read a whole post about the Cricut being terrible to use online! I am now trying to find actual instructional videos for each
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 12, 2017 1:08:21 GMT
I have an old Silhouette and a new Cricut Explore. I much prefer my Silhouette. The machines themselves are not THAT different, but the software for the Silhouette hands down is better IMO and I even had a Gypsy that I loved. I love the Silhouette store and honestly, if you buy a subscription for a year (for maybe $8 a month - wait for a 20% discount) you will have more images than you can use in your lifetime.
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Post by LisaDV on Sept 12, 2017 2:27:36 GMT
I think you can use the newest cameo via Bluetooth so there isn't a physical hookup. I still plug mine in as I'm in the country with only limited bandwidth dsl. There is also an app for your phone for the cameo, but again I would be no help with that. I still love my cameo though.
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Post by ellewood on Sept 12, 2017 2:42:24 GMT
Darn I swear I tried searching first! lol And see I just read a whole post about the Cricut being terrible to use online! I am now trying to find actual instructional videos for each No worries, just trying to recollect the hive mind.
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Post by riversong1963 on Sept 12, 2017 11:19:49 GMT
I have a Cricut Explore Air with Bluetooth, and I love it. I also have a QK Silhouette, and I sometimes use that. But I use my Cricut more. I might be the only one here who finds the Cricut software easier to use than the Silhouette software. It was glitchy, but it's more stable now. JMHO, and have fun with whatever you choose.
ETA: I also like the availability of the Cricut apps for both iOS and Android. I use Design Studio on my iPad when I don't feel like using my laptop.
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Post by ellewood on Sept 12, 2017 12:28:44 GMT
I am now trying to find actual instructional videos for each I've never had problems finding tutorials online for what I wanted to do, but I was searching for specific solutions, like calibrating the machine or print and cut. Maybe if you zero in on an action or a project you know you want to do, you could search for that. I'm not great with technology (I am firmly okay with it, can do Excel but can't do Photoshop) and I find Silhouette to be really easy to use.
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Post by anniefb on Sept 13, 2017 1:57:52 GMT
I love my Cameo 2. Have a look at the Silhouette School blog for videos/posts about the Cameo 3 and also the new version of the software.
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Post by sunny1016 on Sept 13, 2017 3:21:04 GMT
I just tried downloading the version 4 software. I have the 3.56 something or another, lol. It didn't go too well. I went from 254 to 50 designs then I tried re downloading them and it would only get me as far as 186. I tried exporting them to my desktop and re importing them but that didn't work at all. Not sure if there was something else I should have done. I got a few error messages. I was able to go back the my original version and they all came back so that is good. I am going to watch some of the videos posted on the Silhouette School blog. There seems to be a lot of great info there, thx! I will try again in the morning. I did play with my machine a little tonight and although at 10 its like a dinosaur (haha) I forgot how much fun it was to cut stuff out with it!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 5:51:08 GMT
sunny1016 Peek at the Brother Scan n Cut. It is offline but they do have an online software. You can use the software then take your SD card to your machine and cut. Think of it like an advanced Cricut cartridge system. Cricut does have a design store. You won't own the images. They are stored on their cloud server. You can buy the images or even digital cartridges but you don't really own them. If Cricut decides to do away with their online store you won't have your designs any more. This is a big plus for the Silhouette store- you own your images Also with the Silhouette store they are selling the designs as SVG so you can use them now with different machines. Yes, you can use the Silhouette files with your Cricut. Just make sure you click the SVG option. I do have both machines. I keep trying to pack away my Cricut but nobody will let me, lol. I have nothing against the Cricut but I am outgrowing it. I do have advanced skills using both machines. Your old Quickutz Silhouette is still a great machine. Has a lot of love and use left in it. Sometimes I wish I had the original. I could cut from Inkscape directly and use it in Linux natively. The older machines were so pure and uncomplicated. I miss that.
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Post by scrapnnana on Sept 14, 2017 17:45:27 GMT
The software for both Silhouette and Cricut machines can be downloaded for free. Before you buy, I suggest you download and try out the software for each machine. Watch tutorials and try what you see in the tutorials. You won't be able to cut anything without a machine, but it will give you an idea which software suits you better.
Be aware, though, that the Silhouette software has several versions. The new version (4.0 or 4.1) is still glitchy from all reports. Download an earlier version, such as one of those labeled "Legacy" or any of the versions that start with the number 3.
Cricut software does not let you use earlier versions. They force you to update, and there were some complaints about the latest version, although the problems may have been fixed by now.
Both machines are good machines. The software for Cricut is really geared toward those who want something simple, and it is also geared toward trying to get you to use their designs. You can buy them, but if you subscribe, or use the "freebies" you will not have them permanently. The freebies are available to you only for a short time. The subscription lets you use any of thousands of designs, but I disliked most of them. The licensed designs (such as Disney) are not available with the subscription. You usually have to buy them.
I have purchased designs from both stores. With the Silhouette subscription (which I got during a sale), I spend $16/month and can download $150 worth of designs each month, making them about 11 cents each. When I buy Cricut designs, I pay 99 cents each. I could subscribe for about $10/month and have access to thousands of designs for "free" while I have the subscription, but I don't like most of the designs so it is not really worth it to me. Also, I often go for a long time without using my machines because life is busy. If I have a Cricut sub, I may not get any use out of it for months running, which would be a waste. With my Silhouette sub, I check briefly each week, download the designs I like till my credits are used up, and I have a lifetime to use the designs, so I'm not wasting money as I would be with the Cricut subscription. With Cricut, I can and do occasionally buy designs I like, but I pay a premium price for them when compared to Silhouette. I am very happy that Silhouette is now making SVG files available, which can be used with the Cricut, too, so it is more bang for your buck, especially if you have a Silhouette subscription that makes the files less expensive.
If there is any possibility that you would be likely to buy designs, you should check each company's designs. If you don't like the designs, you'll either need to find other sources for designs or make your own. Or you'll be cutting mostly alphabets/titles. That was what I bought my first electronic cutter to do, but once I realized how much I could do with a cutter, just cutting letters wasn't my main reason for using my cutter.
I have both machines, and I really like both. I do recommend that whatever you choose, that you make sure the machine can be set up and ready to use all the time. If the machine is in a closet, you probably won't use it much.
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Post by verycrafty2 on Sept 14, 2017 21:24:48 GMT
I used to have a Cricut in the old days while SCAL was available. I also had a Gypsy and I loved it. But then I bought a Cameo, I have worked that thing like crazy. I have had mine for years without a problem. I cut cardstock, vinyl and HTV. I also use the CB09 blades. The cut is beautiful and I love that I can design anything on my computer. I used to buy files but after a while, I decided to start making my own as the need arises. So, I have the first Cameo and I run it with the Legacy version, not the newer one. I can do whatever I want and I don't feel like learning something new plus the files are big and I don't know how stable the new version is. My Silhouette is my baby, I only wished they came up with something like the Gypsy so I wouldn't have to bring my big ol gaming laptop everywhere in order to design anything.
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Post by sunny1016 on Sept 14, 2017 22:44:28 GMT
I do have the software for the Silhouette already, an older version. And I still have an $82 credit there. I do love their designs! I didn't realize I could download the Cricut software. I will have to try that.I was never really a fan of their cartridge designs. I liked the disney ones for doing our Disney trips but other than that I only use Cricut to cut out letters for the kids school stuff. (its a baby bug- no internet connection)
Thanks to everyone weighing in!
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Post by sunny1016 on Sept 15, 2017 1:10:48 GMT
Btw- does the CB09 blade work with the original Silhouette? Or just the Cameo?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 6:13:12 GMT
sunny1016 I don't know if this will help. I find Disney SVG's or trace my coloring book pages. I have the Disney cartridges but I hardly use them. The beginning of the year I had a Sleeping Beauty mess that I know is Cricut's fault and a file with a mistake in it. Two weeks later I got a cute Aristocat's coloring book and made a perfect file with my Cameo. Go figure! Nothing against Cricut and their design's. Silhouette has mistakes in their store too. I always read everyone keeps their Cricut's for Disney. I am like Google and Coloring Books. Yes, 100% Yes the CB09 blade holder works perfectly with the original Silhouette. I have used a CB09 since Wishblade days. If you have an older machine I do recommend the CB09 blade holder. Honestly just getting that blade holder you have updated your machine to modern standards. Silhouette Cameo store I buy gift cards and add them to my account. Every week I look at the new files, what's on sale and the freebie. I purchase my files. I am not joking about this but it took me almost seven years to use the original $25 card that I received when I bought my Cameo. I just finally went under $5. I am buying more files now. I just really love the designs at Cameo's store. I do peek at Cricut's every week but I never find anything I like.
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Post by sunny1016 on Sept 16, 2017 20:06:46 GMT
sunny1016 I don't know if this will help. I find Disney SVG's or trace my coloring book pages. I have the Disney cartridges but I hardly use them. The beginning of the year I had a Sleeping Beauty mess that I know is Cricut's fault and a file with a mistake in it. Two weeks later I got a cute Aristocat's coloring book and made a perfect file with my Cameo. Go figure! Nothing against Cricut and their design's. Silhouette has mistakes in their store too. I always read everyone keeps their Cricut's for Disney. I am like Google and Coloring Books. Yes, 100% Yes the CB09 blade holder works perfectly with the original Silhouette. I have used a CB09 since Wishblade days. If you have an older machine I do recommend the CB09 blade holder. Honestly just getting that blade holder you have updated your machine to modern standards. Silhouette Cameo store I buy gift cards and add them to my account. Every week I look at the new files, what's on sale and the freebie. I purchase my files. I am not joking about this but it took me almost seven years to use the original $25 card that I received when I bought my Cameo. I just finally went under $5. I am buying more files now. I just really love the designs at Cameo's store. I do peek at Cricut's every week but I never find anything I like. OMG! I just tried a print and cut from google. I had no idea it was that simple! Well except for the fact that it took my machine 5 tries to find the registration marks,lol. But I didn't realize you could basically grab an image from anywhere and use it. How terrific!
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Post by Basket1lady on Sept 16, 2017 21:43:19 GMT
sunny1016 I don't know if this will help. I find Disney SVG's or trace my coloring book pages. I have the Disney cartridges but I hardly use them. The beginning of the year I had a Sleeping Beauty mess that I know is Cricut's fault and a file with a mistake in it. Two weeks later I got a cute Aristocat's coloring book and made a perfect file with my Cameo. Go figure! Nothing against Cricut and their design's. Silhouette has mistakes in their store too. I always read everyone keeps their Cricut's for Disney. I am like Google and Coloring Books. Yes, 100% Yes the CB09 blade holder works perfectly with the original Silhouette. I have used a CB09 since Wishblade days. If you have an older machine I do recommend the CB09 blade holder. Honestly just getting that blade holder you have updated your machine to modern standards. Silhouette Cameo store I buy gift cards and add them to my account. Every week I look at the new files, what's on sale and the freebie. I purchase my files. I am not joking about this but it took me almost seven years to use the original $25 card that I received when I bought my Cameo. I just finally went under $5. I am buying more files now. I just really love the designs at Cameo's store. I do peek at Cricut's every week but I never find anything I like. OMG! I just tried a print and cut from google. I had no idea it was that simple! Well except for the fact that it took my machine 5 tries to find the registration marks,lol. But I didn't realize you could basically grab an image from anywhere and use it. How terrific! The print and cut may be my most favorite part of Silhouette's software. I made a bunch of ornaments at Christmas for my DD's theatre group. They were only 1/2" wide and had the show name and date on the banners. I couldn't believe how precise the cut was, as there were 50 some of these little banners on a page and they all cut beautifully. If your machine isn't recognizing the registration cuts, bump up the light in the room. I'm been known to take a flashlight and shine it on the machine. Shiny/metallic papers are harder for the machine to see the registration marks. You can tape off the corners with masking tape, print, and it works. There are other ideas online for how to get the marks to register. Keep experimenting!
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Post by Basket1lady on Sept 16, 2017 21:46:49 GMT
The software for both Silhouette and Cricut machines can be downloaded for free. Before you buy, I suggest you download and try out the software for each machine. Watch tutorials and try what you see in the tutorials. You won't be able to cut anything without a machine, but it will give you an idea which software suits you better. Be aware, though, that the Silhouette software has several versions. The new version (4.0 or 4.1) is still glitchy from all reports. Download an earlier version, such as one of those labeled "Legacy" or any of the versions that start with the number 3. Cricut software does not let you use earlier versions. They force you to update, and there were some complaints about the latest version, although the problems may have been fixed by now. Both machines are good machines. The software for Cricut is really geared toward those who want something simple, and it is also geared toward trying to get you to use their designs. You can buy them, but if you subscribe, or use the "freebies" you will not have them permanently. The freebies are available to you only for a short time. The subscription lets you use any of thousands of designs, but I disliked most of them. The licensed designs (such as Disney) are not available with the subscription. You usually have to buy them. I have purchased designs from both stores. With the Silhouette subscription (which I got during a sale), I spend $16/month and can download $150 worth of designs each month, making them about 11 cents each. When I buy Cricut designs, I pay 99 cents each. I could subscribe for about $10/month and have access to thousands of designs for "free" while I have the subscription, but I don't like most of the designs so it is not really worth it to me. Also, I often go for a long time without using my machines because life is busy. If I have a Cricut sub, I may not get any use out of it for months running, which would be a waste. With my Silhouette sub, I check briefly each week, download the designs I like till my credits are used up, and I have a lifetime to use the designs, so I'm not wasting money as I would be with the Cricut subscription. With Cricut, I can and do occasionally buy designs I like, but I pay a premium price for them when compared to Silhouette. I am very happy that Silhouette is now making SVG files available, which can be used with the Cricut, too, so it is more bang for your buck, especially if you have a Silhouette subscription that makes the files less expensive. If there is any possibility that you would be likely to buy designs, you should check each company's designs. If you don't like the designs, you'll either need to find other sources for designs or make your own. Or you'll be cutting mostly alphabets/titles. That was what I bought my first electronic cutter to do, but once I realized how much I could do with a cutter, just cutting letters wasn't my main reason for using my cutter. I have both machines, and I really like both. I do recommend that whatever you choose, that you make sure the machine can be set up and ready to use all the time. If the machine is in a closet, you probably won't use it much. I've used the 4.0 version and have had great luck. I have a Mac, if that matters. And I agree--for most Disney paper pieced cuts, tracing the design from a coloring book or a simple drawing is much better than the Cricut cartridges. One thing I would do is search online, looking for which machine does better with intricate cuts. When I bought my Cameo (5 years ago now), the Cameo by far outperformed the Cricut for those cuts. But I know the newer Cricuts did better. I'm just not sure where they stand now, as I won't upgrade my Cameo for a few more years or until it dies.
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Post by scrapnnana on Sept 17, 2017 2:00:15 GMT
I feel that the Cricut Explore Air 2 can cut better detail than the Cameo, although the Cameo does run a very close second. I have both machines.
But I do not really have much of a need to cut tiny detailed designs, so I prefer using my Cameo because I prefer the Silhouette software over the Cricut Design Space.
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Post by sunny1016 on Sept 17, 2017 4:25:08 GMT
I feel that the Cricut Explore Air 2 can cut better detail than the Cameo, although the Cameo does run a very close second. I have both machines. But I do not really have much of a need to cut tiny detailed designs, so I prefer using my Cameo because I prefer the Silhouette software over the Cricut Design Space. Yes, that's what makes it tough. I read that the Cricut cuts better. But, everyone saying that still preferred the Cameo. I haven't played with the Cricut software yet. I am hoping I get a chance at the beginning of the week. But I did have a lot of fun with the Silhouette yesterday and I am a starting to get the hang of it better.
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