Sarah*H
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Post by Sarah*H on Sept 30, 2017 23:58:22 GMT
I read three separate things this week which completely upended my perception of Donald Trump and what he's doing to our culture and society. The first was, oddly enough, an article about Darrell Hammond and the repercussions of losing the Trump impersonator job on SNL. After years of studying him, this is what Hammond thinks about Trump. Darrell Hammond was SNL's Best Trump Impersonatorand The second was a short piece on CNN about the NFL protests. In Trump's Eyes, Everything is Working Out PerfectlyHis former employee Louise Sunshine had this to say about his management style: The final one is a column by David Brooks which has been running through my brain all day as we (well, most of us) reacted with horror and disgust to his tweets about Puerto Rico. The Abbie Hoffman of the RightThat mental picture of him sticking his finger into a gaping wound and poking around, deliberately making it uglier and hurt more - it really sums up everything about who he is and what he wants to accomplish. It's not because he's stupid or has a low IQ. It's not even because he's a narcissist and can't brook criticism. I'm not even sure psychopathy covers it although it comes closer than any other explanation. His inability to articulate clearly, his complete indifference and ignorance to everything related to science/history/expertise notwithstanding, he knows exactly what he's doing and why he's doing it. His aims are just not things that normal, mentally healthy people recognize as things to accomplish. Donald Trump - human velociraptor. |
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Post by PLurker on Oct 1, 2017 0:16:55 GMT
I read three separate things this week which completely upended my perception of Donald Trump and what he's doing to our culture and society. The first was, oddly enough, an article about Darrell Hammond and the repercussions of losing the Trump impersonator job on SNL. After years of studying him, this is what Hammond thinks about Trump. Darrell Hammond was SNL's Best Trump Impersonatorand The second was a short piece on CNN about the NFL protests. In Trump's Eyes, Everything is Working Out PerfectlyHis former employee Louise Sunshine had this to say about his management style: The final one is a column by David Brooks which has been running through my brain all day as we (well, most of us) reacted with horror and disgust to his tweets about Puerto Rico. The Abbie Hoffman of the RightThat mental picture of him sticking his finger into a gaping wound and poking around, deliberately making it uglier and hurt more - it really sums up everything about who he is and what he wants to accomplish. It's not because he's stupid or has a low IQ. It's not even because he's a narcissist and can't brook criticism. I'm not even sure psychopathy covers it although it comes closer than any other explanation. His inability to articulate clearly, his complete indifference and ignorance to everything related to science/history/expertise notwithstanding, he knows exactly what he's doing and why he's doing it. His aims are just not things that normal, mentally healthy people recognize as things to accomplish. Donald Trump - human velociraptor. well, sh!t, that's depressing. Probably because it all rings true. |
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Post by valleyview on Oct 1, 2017 0:18:23 GMT
And that's the scariest thought! Upending our government and national unity sure might seem advantageous to whom? The main thing to remember is that WE could be the losers of this scenario.
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Post by janeliz on Oct 1, 2017 0:53:14 GMT
It's food for thought, for sure, but I don't agree with the idea that he's a clever provocateur who knows exactly what he's doing. I used to think that was a more accurate description of his behavior, but it feels more random and frenetic to me now. I have no idea what his IQ might be, but I think David Brook is giving him a little too much credit when it comes to his intelligence and motivations.
His odd, rambling interviews, his tweets, his seeming total lack of understanding of history and historical figures...I'm just not seeing a highly intelligent "genius empath".
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Post by Sarah*H on Oct 1, 2017 0:55:56 GMT
But EQ is different than IQ, right? Assuming we believe in either thing as quantitatively measurable.
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Post by navymomk9 on Oct 1, 2017 0:56:21 GMT
Oh man. I've heard a lot of explanations and those just add to the, what the hell,voice I keep hearing in my head.
I just hope Robert Mueller hurries up before irreparable damage is done cuz I'm afraid we're in for the full 8 years of this shit.
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 1, 2017 0:58:31 GMT
I agree. Cons are a dime a dozen and he is nothing special just scummy.
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Post by pjaye on Oct 1, 2017 1:00:20 GMT
All of those give him far too much credit, he's so far from "genius empath" that it's not even funny.
He's definitely not "controlling the situation" by dropping bombshell comments, on a daily basis he's making things worse, let's just ask Rocket man Kim Jong Un how well Trump is controlling him with those tweets shall we?
As for 'velociraptor', well the batshit crazy single minded desire to kill things to feed his own personal ego is there, but he's attempting to do it by creating a smoke screen of chaos but there's lots of us who have the ability to see right through what he's doing.
He's not some genius, he's like a demonic, destructive version of the Peter Sellers character in the old movie "Being There".
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 1, 2017 1:00:50 GMT
I agree. Cons are a dime a dozen and he is nothing special just scummy. I should have quoted you I wasn't fast enough to post right after. What janeliz said  ...and now I am quoting myself instead of editing my post. I'll just go get another glass of wine |
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Post by janeliz on Oct 1, 2017 1:10:05 GMT
I do think he showed a keen understanding of his opponents weaknesses during the campaign, and I've read in the past that that was a particular strength of his in business. He doesn't seem to be adept at handling his own emotions and anger, though. So I don't know what that says about his EQ.
I'm pondering the idea that he still thinks everything is going great. Look at his tweets today about Puerto Rico, for example. He starts the day by insulting the mayor and people of PR, and ends the day assuring "the great people" of PR that he is on their side and they should believe and trust in him and not the #fakenews. It makes me wonder what causes these u-turns in his thought processes. People sort of joke that General Kelly or Ivanka must have gotten control over the Twitter feed later in the day. Is that what's happening? Is he getting advice to chill out, and taking it, or is he simply a bully who puts it out there and then feels some small form of regret when he sees the response he's getting? I'd be interested in knowing what you all think.
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Post by used2scrap on Oct 1, 2017 1:17:29 GMT
I do think he showed a keen understanding of his opponents weaknesses during the campaign, and I've read in the past that that was a particular strength of his in business. He doesn't seem to be adept at handling his own emotions and anger, though. So I don't know what that says about his EQ. I'm pondering the idea that he still thinks everything is going great. Look at his tweets today about Puerto Rico, for example. He starts the day by insulting the mayor and people of PR, and ends the day assuring "the great people" of PR that he is on their side and they should believe and trust in him and not the #fakenews. It makes me wonder what causes these u-turns in his thought processes. People sort of joke that General Kelly or Ivanka must have gotten control over the Twitter feed later in the day. Is that what's happening? Is he getting advice to chill out, and taking it, or is he simply a bully who puts it out there and then feels some small form of regret when he sees the response he's getting? I'd be interested in knowing what you all think. I think he's responding to whatever he sees on the tv at the time. The large gap this morning likely he was playing golf, and this afternoon likely Gen Kelly had him actually doing some presidenting. |
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Post by Sarah*H on Oct 1, 2017 1:18:45 GMT
It does seem like very stereotypical bully behavior. In fact, I've occasionally thought his twitter behavior is similar to some patterns we've seen in the long history of this message board. The expert mental health analyses we will read about this man in the future will be fascinating.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 1, 2017 1:28:34 GMT
He's definitely not "controlling the situation" by dropping bombshell comments, on a daily basis he's making things worse Worse for us, but he thinks it's great, and to his advantage! or is he simply a bully who puts it out there and then feels some small form of regret when he sees the response he's getting? I'd be interested in knowing what you all think. He is an absolute bully and probably someone does get to him and tells him he should tone it down. Then he goes off he deep end again the next morning. He will never apologize. |
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Post by Loydene on Oct 1, 2017 2:36:17 GMT
I'm going to read those articles. I've thought for some time that he is evilly and deliberately divisive ... I just can't figure out why ... unless it is as simple as, we as a public, are weaker and less impactful as long as we are divided.
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Post by jenis40 on Oct 1, 2017 3:01:09 GMT
I think I agree with this assessment: fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-media-needs-to-stop-rationalizing-president-trumps-behavior/"Trump is piqued by criticism and rarely backs down, especially when he’s challenged by women or minorities". I also think that there is some sort of dementia going on. He seemed much more articulate in interviews 20 years ago. I have a very limited experience with Alzheimer's but my experience was that the person underwent a personality shift and became paranoid and mean. |
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Post by elaine on Oct 1, 2017 3:08:15 GMT
I think I agree with this assessment: fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-media-needs-to-stop-rationalizing-president-trumps-behavior/"Trump is piqued by criticism and rarely backs down, especially when he’s challenged by women or minorities". I also think that there is some sort of dementia going on. He seemed much more articulate in interviews 20 years ago. I have a very limited experience with Alzheimer's but my experience was that the person underwent a personality shift and became paranoid and mean.  Dementia. Probably also a personality disorder, but senility/dementia no doubt. |
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Post by redhead32 on Oct 1, 2017 3:15:46 GMT
So if we take this analysis as true, what do we do?
We can't sit back and let him attack women, black people, Mexicans, and individuals.
We can't rally together to take him on.
Is there a solution?
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Post by papersilly on Oct 1, 2017 3:22:27 GMT
Someday he will stick that finger out and someone will cut it off
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Post by jenis40 on Oct 1, 2017 3:54:32 GMT
So if we take this analysis as true, what do we do? We can't sit back and let him attack women, black people, Mexicans, and individuals. We can't rally together to take him on. Is there a solution? Vote in Congresspeople with a spine. |
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Post by redhead32 on Oct 1, 2017 4:11:56 GMT
So if we take this analysis as true, what do we do? We can't sit back and let him attack women, black people, Mexicans, and individuals. We can't rally together to take him on. Is there a solution? Vote in Congresspeople with a spine. Egads. I said solution, not fantasy. (I'm kidding. I'm in MN, and Franken and Klobachar are doing a good job, I think. Others in the House are sort of disgusting, but outstate MN is still Trumpland.) |
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Post by PLurker on Oct 1, 2017 4:18:10 GMT
I don't think he is an actual genius (probably quite far from it) but more so in that he has been doing this con job/bs his whole life and has gotten the feel for it and 'good' at it, just by repetition. Slithering snake.
He has never really been held accountable to anything he's trashed and just keeps moving on to the next mark/victim. All his life he has been hit, grab and run. In that way he is a velociraptor, he preys, devours what he can and runs off to next victim. Unfortunately he has somehow worked his way to the top and we are all collectively his current victim.
Dementia would ad an extra frightening wrinkle to the whole mess as it's not stopping him at this point- just making it worse. damn
Hopefully he will finally be held accountable. Sooner than later would be nice. 320+ days of this mess- day after day- and just when I think it's hit rock bottom...
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Post by zella on Oct 1, 2017 6:32:50 GMT
The word 'empath' doesn't belong in the same universe as Cheetohead. That Darrell Hammond said this about 45 makes me think Hammond is a colossal idiot. The man doesn't have a sympathetic, empathetic or caring cell in his body.
And I believe his IQ is well below average. This is a man who talked about a non-existent nation at the UN and said that Puerto Rico is surrounded by "water, big water, ocean water." He is a fucking moron with an appalling lack of knowledge.
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 1, 2017 10:53:02 GMT
I think that you've summed him up perfectly.
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